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Indigenous tribes depended on the forest for livelihood. Their daily activities included hunting and harvesting of natural products from the forest. The reduction of tropical forests will in turn reduce livelihood opportunities and affect their lifestyle. Dr.Cyren Wong, a researcher who has worked closely with anthropology culture, voiced out his opinions. 
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“Animals get displaced, for indigenous communities living in the region, especially finding food, especially finding sources of protein can be very difficult after.” 
Education Director of Ecophysiology, Professor Richard Reina stated that although palm oil plantations provide many job opportunities, the transition from years of tradition and practices to something alien will not be smooth for the indigenous people. 
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“They might get kind of unskilled employment within the palm oil plantation. And they usually like the unskilled low paid type jobs. And in exchange, you know, they've lost all of that original habitat and original livelihoods if they were farming or whatever it was.”

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Environmentalists urge for the ban of palm oil products; they reasoned that expansions of palm oil plantation brings loss of biodiversity. Minister of Primary Industries, Teresa Kok also joined the movement. She was informed that the prime minister’s cabinet proposed a cap on the palm oil estate at 6 million hectares only, which is a 2.5% increment of the current palm oil land use. 
Even if Malaysia does approve the 6-million-hectare cap proposal, it may not be enough to address its reputational issues, given many Malaysian palm oil companies are active internationally, especially in southeast Asia, where they continue to convert forests, peatlands, and areas claimed by traditional and indigenous communities. 
Other approaches should be taken into measure. Professor Richard Reina suggested that the government and NGOs plays a big role in this. 
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“Through getting pressure in government, you know, the pressure of decisions about what happens mainly come at the government level. So that's your community support public opinion, conservation organizations, NGOs, and so on. And from the scientist perspective, it's about providing as good information as possible on what's happening, what's, what its causes are and what its effects will be. So that organizations can use that information to get change or to fix the situation.” 
Senior tour guide of Mulu National Park, Mr.Lawai, is a descendant from an indigenous tribe. He has some suggestions for the public to minimize the impact of deforestation. 
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“Government so play some role on this. More reinforcement, big penalty if you want to the big company with the big investor. Welcome them to do the funding. You just get people educated. Okay, bring awareness to the importance of the forests. That’s the message we want to deliver to the public.”
This is Abraham Chiew for Radio Monash.

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1. So what do you think about the effects of poor management of forestry to the people and ecosystem?

It can't support the same level of diversity of plants and animals, and has a huge impact, as well as on the people, traditional communities and so on, they lose their livelihoods lose their cultural heritage. And they end up you know, they might get kind of unskilled employment within the palm oil plantation. And in exchange, you know, they've lost all of that original habitat and original livelihoods if they were farming or whatever it was.

2. Who do you think should be taking action to stop all these causes and effects? Should it be the NGOs or should be the government,

NGO raises the problem. And many times it government is aware that there is a problem, but the financial incentives are so great. And the power of the company's making the money is so great that governments don't really want to do anything about it. Because they see economic growth as being the main outcome, and the main goal, okay. But then when you have NGOs, and local communities, and so on, who stand up and fight for increased protection, or a change in practices, and so on. And then that gets public support, that's when the government's are more likely become involved. But still, everybody has to because the NGOs, they can't change the law. So they, they kind of have to force governments to act. And in the end, that's the most successful way for it to happen for everybody to do it.

3.So as a public member of the society, were you affected by any of these incidents?

Not directly.  You can't see the immediate direct impact. And that's really the problem for regular people. And because it's also very difficult to make predictions. So that gives opportunity for people who don't want to do anything to kind of dispute whether there's going to be any change at all, or if there is going to be a change how serious it is. Because it's a very, very complex planet with all the interactions that happen between living and non-living things. So while there was no immediate impact on me, and most other people, you know, I can see and think about where longer term what's going to happen. Okay. And that's is the area that most people are trying to use as the as the reason for taking action. Alright,

4. What actions do you think you can stop? You can do to stop this for this incident, everything?

Decisions about what happens mainly come at the government level. So that's your community support public opinion, conservation organizations, NGOs, and so on. And from the scientist perspective, it's about providing as good information as possible on what's happening, what's, what its causes are and what its effects will be. So that organizations can use that information to get change or to fix the situation.

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1. What do you think about effects of the Amazon Fire to the people and the ecosystem?

I think that the effects are obviously quite devastating, you know, large scale environmental disasters such as this does not only affect the environment, it also affects people, when the forest burn, you know, animals get displaced, for indigenous communities living in the region, especially finding food, especially finding sources of protein can be very difficult after, after a significant forest fire such as this, which might push them to participate in, I suppose other equally detrimental activities to secure food for themselves.

2. Who do you think should be taking action to stop all these causes and effects? Should it be the NGO such as WWF? Or should it be the government that take actions?

I think both parties have a big role to play. A lot of NGOs help mobilize communities underground to sort of take action to not just raise awareness, but also set up organized community responses to these issues. And, of course, governments are responsible as well, you know, these are the people who are the lawmakers, you know, the people who pass policies, but I think if governments are not acting the way that they should, you know, in the case of the Amazon rain fires, obviously, very much politically driven, then really, you know, that's where the grassroots level movements, like NGOs, community groups, I think that's where the pressure on the government can, you know, sort of take place.

3. What do you think of decreasing National Park areas just to accommodate industry needs? Were you affected by this incident?

I think the current state of palm on our country is quite a sorry state. Mainly because, you know, our government is so strongly lobbying that promote sustainability. You know, the hashtag, I love my palm oil campaign. But at the same time, I think the reality is that the industry is definitely not sustainable. So I think the government is in a bit of a denial about this. The way I'm effect I think we're all affected by this. You know, biodiversity loss affects everyone. It's also affecting a lot of indigenous communities. They're losing their customary land. They're losing their homes because of this. Yeah.

4. What actions can we take to stop this spread? As a general member of the public? What can you do? And what can I do? Yeah.

I think one good thing is to educate yourself, you know, so read up more, speak to more people about the issue, try to get as well rounded an opinion as possible. And, you know, hold your governments responsible, you know, if the government's saying something that doing something else, then it's up to you to, you know, rally together and do something about it, you know, protest. Right, petitions, you know, run for office, I don't know.

5. What do you think about social media, spreading awareness? Is it effective?

I think social media is a really powerful tool in this day and age. Social media is what connects us is what connects our issues to the rest of the world, as well. So I think that's really important, you know, because, you know, everything is so interconnected, you know, our governments, our our country's economy depends so much on other people buying from us. And so raising awareness on an international scale is one way to help hold governments accountable as well.

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1. What do you think about the effects of all these poor management of our history to the people and the ecosystem?

Clearing and burning is create big impact to ecosystem as a global climate. You can feel climate now changing all the time. 

2. Does it affect the you?

Sometimes it may rain a lot, it can affect (bring) too much water and we sometimes have to stop one day of hiking especially up the Mulu summits as there are a lot of river cruising there. It will be closed to public if it gets too serious, lots of rain brings flooding. Climate around us does not feel impactful in this area maybe this is very pristine areas. Maybe people in the urban can feel a bit of climate change. Yeah, we can feel a little bit effect after the haze. It does get hazy in Mulu National Park. For the moment no. Last 1999, around this day, Okay. And then some flight will be canceling the fact that the flight will not come so yeah and then we quiet for a while will be a month like no visitors. Visibility not clear. 

3. Who do you think should be taking action to stop that you think should be WWF like the NGOs non-government organizations or the government?

It’s a very difficult job. Government so play some role on this. More reinforcement, big penalty if you want to the big company with the big investor. Welcome them to do the funding. Warn the public not to make open burning. 

4. Were you affected by this incident like forestry management? Does it affect your family in any ways?

Well, the next one, not for us. Probably affect more for people in rural areas. 

5. Can you find food easily enough for us? Like from a stream. 

Yeah, I'm not sure on that one. Because part of the place where people live, it can be affected a little bit. All people need the forest. Every day daily.

6. So do you rely on normal technology? Such as your equipment or do still rely on natural products from the forest?

Not much technology. Look, look at all here. So we have basic communication such as email, simple technology. I think we also have this small part of internet to connect people to go to our (web)site.

7. So as a tour guide, what should you What do you think you should do to stop poor forestry management? 

You just get people educated. Okay, bring awareness to the importance of the forests. Forest is the lung of the Earth; it provides us oxygen. Coming from the rain forest. That’s the message we want to deliver to the public.

8. Is there anything else you want to add on? Any words to Monash University? What should we do?

Put more effort into research. Okay, how to save forest. 

9. But importantly, how you deal with a politician?

Yeah. It's hard to say very difficult to say without economy. no value to live for. You should Economy also important to people, it has to be balanced and sustainable. That’s all.

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