Recently author/professor Karen Swallow Prior was asked what she considered the biggest problem facing the church today, and answered, "an impoverished imagination." So Phil sat down with Karen to talk through what she means by that, and her belief that a lack of imagination-forming reading results in, among other things, our propensity to believe conspiracy theories and our extreme discomfort with uncertainty. Karen also convinces Phil he really, really needs to read Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. PLUS, Kaitlyn Schiess joins Skye and Phil to talk through Beth Moore's departure from the SBC, and whether the death of evangelist Luis Palau represents the end of the era of large-scale evangelism. Oh... and if you're using the story of Jesus flipping tables to justify bad behavior on social media, you're probably misusing that story. This week on the podcast!

Episode 448: Beth Moore's Exit & the Problem of "Impoverished Imaginations" with Karen Swallow Prior

Calvin University history professor Kristin Kobes Du Mez joins Skye Jethani (co-host of The Holy Post) to discuss her bestselling book, “Jesus &amp; John Wayne.” In this episode, they discuss how the Cold War shaped and defined American evangelicalism, how it differed from earlier 19th-century evangelicalism, and the lingering effects of the Cold War on the way many white evangelicals still think about culture, politics, and gender.  Part 1 - Revivalism and the Military (2:23) Part 2 - Billy Graham and the Bomb (16:34) Part 3 - Civil Rights and Vietnam (30:48) Part 4 - From Cold War to Culture War (45:08)

Jesus & John Wayne: Episode 1: Cold Warriors (The '50s & 60's)

Tyler Huckabee, senior editor for Relevant, joins the Holy Post crew to defend his recent article about VeggieTales. Did Phil’s mom trick him into creating vegetable characters who are beyond God’s salvation? Then, over 1,000 Cru staff members say the parachurch ministry’s focus on diversity and racism has resulted in mission drift. Are they right or is it another example of paranoia over CRT? Then, Christian college president D. Michael Lindsay shares about his new book “Hinge Moments: Making the Most of Life’s Transitions,” and the unexpected changes in his own life. Have we misunderstood what it means to follow God’s will, and what can we learn from the best leaders about how to change directions? All that, plus Skye’s cramped cross-country road trip.

Episode 463: Huckabee in the Hot Seat, Crisis at Cru, & Navigating Change with D. Michael Lindsay

Calvin University history professor Kristin Kobes Du Mez joins Skye Jethani to continue discussing her bestselling book, "Jesus &amp; John Wayne." In this episode, they discuss how evangelicalism fought to maintain traditional authority structures in the home and society, except when those authority structures didn't fit their own political interests which ultimately led to the rise of the Religious Right.&nbsp; &nbsp;  Part 1 - Feminism and Family Values (2:18) Part 2 - Reconstructionism and the Religious Right (29:13)  Jesus and John Wayne:

Jesus and John Wayne EPISODE 2: Culture Warriors (The ‘70s - ‘80s)

Phil, Christian, and Skye do a deep dive into George Packer’s recent article in the Atlantic called “How America Fractured into 4 Parts.” Packer argues that Americans no longer agree on the country’s purpose, values, history, or meaning. Is he right? And how do Packer’s 4 Americas map onto the church? Then, Skye interviews Kyle Strobel about his new book “Where Prayer Becomes Real.” Obviously, the book is about prayer but it’s also about something even deeper and more foundational to our faith—honesty. It’s vital for our transformation but in short supply in many churches. Plus, scientists say the earth has a pulse. Did God design the earth to destroy life every 27.5 million years? That sets the Holy Post crew down a path into theology, the problem of evil, and why ferrets are bad pets.

Episode 464: The Four Americas & Honest Prayer with Kyle Strobel

Calvin University history professor Kristin Kobes Du Mez joins Skye Jethani to discuss her bestselling book, “Jesus &amp; John Wayne.” In this episode, they examine why white evangelicalism left behind some of its militant rhetoric after the Cold War ended in the early 1990s to embrace a kinder, gentler approach epitomized by the Promise Keepers movement, and how an aggressive vision of Christian masculinity returned after September 11, 2001. Plus, why an emphasis on racial reconciliation ultimately doomed Promise Keepers, and how other ministries learned to avoid any talk about race or justice. Part 1 - Promise Keepers and Therapeutic Christianity Part 2 - Servant Leaders and Racial Reconciliation (15:36) Part 3 - Purity Culture and Fragile Masculinity (32:47) Part 4 - 9/11 and the Neo-Calvinists (48:38)

Jesus and John Wayne Episode 3: Tender Warriors (The ’90s - ’00s)

Calvin University history professor Kristin Kobes Du Mez joins Skye Jethani to discuss her bestselling book, "Jesus &amp; John Wayne." In this episode, they look at the rise of Donald Trump among white evangelicals and how their response to the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol mirrors reactions to scandals involving celebrity church leaders. Du Mez also responds to criticism of her book, and where we might find hope for the future of American evangelicalism. Part 1 - Authoritarian Pastors and the Authoritarian President Part 2 - Insurrection and Sex Scandals (17:22) Part 3 - Christian Media and the Marketplace (27:42) Part 4 - Responses and Criticism (40:32) Part 5 - Done and Undone (52:59)

Jesus and John Wayne Episode 4: Fallen Warriors (The ‘10s - Today)

She’s finally here! Bible teacher and author Beth Moore joins Kaitlyn Schiess to discuss her new memoir, her calling, and how she found the courage to speak out against the political idolatry of evangelical leaders in 2016. Moore says she learned how to put her faith in Christ himself rather than in Christian people. Also this week, we discuss the revival at Asbury University that’s attracted 20,000 people to a small town in Kentucky—including a lot of Christian celebrities. Is it a genuine movement of God’s Spirit, or a product of social media spin? Could it be both? Plus, a Christian professor discovers why “Florida is where woke goes to die,” evangelicals rejected Jimmy Carter for being too nice, and the Grinch who stole Easter. &nbsp; Patreon Bonus: Bonus Interview with Kaitlyn and Beth Moore -  &nbsp; Holy Post merch store - &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; News Segment &nbsp; Sponsor 0:00 - Sponsor World Relief Join the Path -&nbsp;  &nbsp; 0:45 Intro &nbsp; 3:35 - Stolen eggs &nbsp; 8:35 - Professor in trouble &nbsp; 25:47 - Asbury revival &nbsp; 38:51 - Jimmy Carter in hospice   Sponsors 49:26 - Sponsor: Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at faithfulcounseling.com/holypost&nbsp; &nbsp; 50:32 - Sponsor: Abide abide.com Get 25% off your first year when you text HOLYPOST to 22433 &nbsp; 51:50 - Interview Intro &nbsp; 53:15 - Beth Moore&nbsp; &nbsp; All My Knotted-Up Life: A Memoir by Beth Moore -  &nbsp; 59:41 - Calling &nbsp; 1:08:30 - Risking credibility &nbsp; 1:15:00 - Back to 2016 &nbsp; 1:25:19- End Credits &nbsp; Links mentioned in news segment: Thief Steals Nearly 200,000 Cadbury Creme Eggs in Britain -  &nbsp; English professor in Florida says university is reviewing his employment following complaint over racial justice unit -    Asbury Professor: We’re Witnessing a ‘Surprising Work of God’ -    Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Kobes Du Mez -  &nbsp; The Movie Proposal - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-movie-proposal/id1184573662   Other resources: &nbsp; All My Knotted-Up Life: A Memoir by Beth Moore - https://amzn.to/3lWYLFy   Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/&nbsp;   Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost&nbsp;   The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. &nbsp;

553: Revival Tourism & Christ vs Christians with Beth Moore

There's no denying that American men are struggling. Depression, drug use, and suicide are on the rise, and there are plenty of voices on the far right eager to blame feminists, the LGBT movement, #MeToo, and the left in general. They say our culture has made traditionally masculine traits "toxic" and stolen from men the one thing they need most—respect. David French explains to Skye Jethani why this diagnosis is wrong. He argues that the real crisis isn't that men lack respect, but that they lack "virtuous purpose." Plus, French and Jethani revisit the war in Ukraine one year after the Russian invasion. While the Biden Administration's support for Ukraine has gotten stronger, overall American support has weakened. What does that mean, and how will this conflict eventually end? &nbsp; Sponsor 0:00 - Sponsor: Veritas Forum Listen to The Veritas Forum podcast today at  &nbsp; 1:04 - Theme Song &nbsp; 3:00 - Men need purpose more than respect  &nbsp; Sponsor 27:36 - Miracle Brand trymiracle.com/HOLYPOST&nbsp;&nbsp; Save over 40% and be sure to use our promo code HOLYPOST at checkout to SAVE even more AND&nbsp; get 3 FREE TOWELS! &nbsp; 28:42 - Sponsor Hiya Health hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order.     29:47 - The crisis of masculinity &nbsp; 34:20 - Christianity and consumerism   43:00 The War in Ukraine &nbsp; 1:02:22 Next Presidential election &nbsp; 1:08:20 - End Credits &nbsp; Links mentioned in interview &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Other resources: David French: &nbsp; &nbsp;  &nbsp; Support us and find premium content by going to  &nbsp; The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

French Friday: The Real Masculinity Crisis

A new report from the CDC finds a record number of teenage girls are now debilitated by mental illnesses including depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation. And social psychologist Jonathan Haidt says the evidence is abundant that social media is the cause, but the tech industry is resisting any changes. Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye discuss the social, political, and spiritual dimensions of the crisis. They also revisit the Asbury revival and how previous revivals in America produced both good and bad fruit. New Testament professor, Scot McKnight, talks about his latest book, “Revelation for the Rest of Us.” He argues that a literal reading of the book isn’t just wrong but dangerous. Rather than speculating about timelines and events, McKnight says the book is intended to teach Christians in every age how to be discerning, dissident disciples within Babylon. Plus, unstoppable Canadian super pigs are coming! &nbsp; Patreon Bonus: Bonus Interview with Scot McKnight - &nbsp; &nbsp; Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess: Church Governance 101 - &nbsp; &nbsp; Holy Post merch store - &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; News Segment &nbsp; 0:00 - Intro 2:44 - Animal News 9:35 - Asbury Revival 26:22 - Mental health and social media 36:47 - Collective action 43:47 - Listening to teenagers &nbsp; 54:41 - Sponsor Miracle Brand trymiracle.com/HOLYPOST&nbsp;&nbsp; Save over 40% and be sure to use our promo code HOLYPOST at checkout to SAVE even more AND&nbsp; get 3 FREE TOWELS! &nbsp; 55:47&nbsp; - Sponsor - Magic Spoon Go to magicspoon.com/HOLYPOST to grab a variety pack and try it today! And be sure to use our promo code HOLYPOST at checkout to save five dollars off your order! &nbsp; 57:23 -&nbsp; Interview Intro&nbsp; 59:29 - Scot McKnight  &nbsp; 1:01: 12 - Speculation approach 1:06:55 - Dispensationalism 1:12:16 - Silence on Revelation 1:18:04 Revelation for the rest of us 1:22:14 - America and Babylon 1:32:37 - End Credits    Links Mentioned in News Segment &nbsp; Hybrid Super Pigs From Canada Are Invading Northern US; Why Are They a Problem? -  &nbsp; ‘Woodstock’ for Christians: Revival Draws Thousands to Kentucky Town -  &nbsp; Social Media is a Major Cause of the Mental Illness Epidemic in Teen Girls. Here’s the Evidence.-&nbsp;  &nbsp; The crisis in American girlhood -  &nbsp; Other resources: &nbsp; Revelation for the Rest of Us: A Prophetic Call to Follow Jesus as a Dissident Disciple by Scot McKnight -    Holy Post website: &nbsp;&nbsp;   Holy Post Patreon: &nbsp;&nbsp;   The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

554 Teenage Girls in Crisis & Rethinking Revelation with Scot McKnight

The Gospel Coalition published an article last week that brought together every divergent faction of the church to say, “Ick!” While many are discussing the troubling content of the article on social media, the Holy Post crew examines what is says about the troubling state of evangelical publishing. Then, new data finds liberal teens are struggling with depression at higher rates on average than conservative teens. What’s the explanation? And Phil talks to professor Christopher Watkin about his book, “Biblical Critical Theory: How the Bible's Unfolding Story Makes Sense of Modern Life and Culture.” Is critical theory really as evil as some culture warriors say it is? Watkin offers a more thoughtful and Christian perspective on how to critique society. Plus, Japan discovers 7,000 new islands. &nbsp; Patreon Bonus: Bonus Interview with Christopher Watkin - https://www.patreon.com/posts/79691495/ &nbsp; Holy Post merch store - https://www.holypost.com/shop&nbsp; &nbsp; Sponsor 0:00 -&nbsp; Sponsor: World Relief Join the Path -&nbsp;  &nbsp; 0:44 - Intro 3:46 - Islands found 9:40 - The Article 29:23 - Teen mental health and politics &nbsp; Sponsors &nbsp; 49:40 - Sponsor Hiya Health hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order. 50:47 - Interview intro &nbsp; Interview with Christopher Watkin  &nbsp; &nbsp; 53:13 - Social contract 56:20 - Christopher’s story 1:01:32 - Biblical Critical Theory&nbsp; Biblical Critical Theory: How the Bible's Unfolding Story Makes Sense of Modern Life and Culture -  &nbsp; 1:04:28 - Defining critical theory 1:10:50 - Augustine 1:16:29 - Analyzing culture through the bible 1:21:50 - Eternal destiny and culture 1:24:28 - Diagonalizing 1:35:31 - End Credits &nbsp; Links mentioned in news segment: Japan just found 7,000 islands it didn’t know it had -  &nbsp; Please understand that I was the first one who was upset by the bad article -  &nbsp; Esau McCaulley tweet link -  &nbsp; Why are young liberals so depressed? -    Other resources: &nbsp; The Uneasy Conscience of Modern Fundamentalism by Carl Henry -     Holy Post website: &nbsp;&nbsp;   Holy Post Patreon: &nbsp;&nbsp;   The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

555: “The Article” & Biblical Critical Theory with Christopher Watkin

Feedback on the recent episode about the teen mental health report by the CDC was so strong that the Holy Post gang revisits the topic. Jonathan Haidt says three untruths that fuel depression were embraced by progressives ten years ago, but now they’re commonplace among conservatives too. Then, in 1976, Jimmy Carter represented a biblically-rooted evangelicalism that was also politically progressive. So, why did white evangelicals abandon him—or did they? And former Facebook executive, Nona Jones, explains why social media companies say their mission is to create community but their business models do the opposite. Jones still believes there is hope for these platforms and is now working with YouVersion to build digital disciples. Plus, respected historian, Dave, believes there’s a buried treasure under Kate’s house. &nbsp; Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess Tithing 101 https://www.patreon.com/posts/80028489/ &nbsp; Holy Post merch store - https://www.holypost.com/shop&nbsp;   0:00 -&nbsp; Intro 2:39 - Theme Song 3:00 - The Holy Grail and Ark of the Covenant thought to be found in England 12:16 - Teenage Mental Health 38:10 - Jimmy Carter and Evangelicals&nbsp; 48:50 - Ryan Burge on race and religion in American politics &nbsp; Sponsors 52:52 - Sponsor - Magic Spoon Go to magicspoon.com/HOLYPOST to grab a variety pack and try it today! And be sure to use our promo code HOLYPOST at checkout to save five dollars off your order! &nbsp; 54:29 - Sponsor: Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at faithfulcounseling.com/holypost&nbsp; &nbsp; 55:34 - Guest Interview - Nona Jones  &nbsp; 58:39 - Nona’s time at Facebook &nbsp; 1:05:55 - The potential and the limits of technology in the Church &nbsp; 1:16:57 - How to use social media for the well-being of people &nbsp; 1:29:57 - End Credits &nbsp; Links mentioned in news segment: &nbsp; &nbsp;Holy Grail and Ark of Covenant thought to be located under an English house -&nbsp;    Why the Mental Health of Liberal Girls Sank First and Fastest -&nbsp;    Jimmy Carter embodies the ‘road not taken’ by many White evangelical Christians -  &nbsp; Ryan Burge - This is how much race matters more than religion in American politics    Other resources: Killing Comparison: Reject the Lie You Aren't Good Enough and Live Confident in Who God Made You to Be by Nona Jones -  &nbsp; &nbsp;   Holy Post website: &nbsp;&nbsp;   Holy Post Patreon: &nbsp;&nbsp;   The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

556: Teen Mental Health Revisited & Digital Discipleship with Nona Jones

557: The Rise of Christian Nashville-ism &amp; What Christians Must Do with Claude Alexander &nbsp; Why doesn’t Congress work? A recent article explains how diversity, education, and geography are driving the political parties apart. These findings also help explain the widening fractures among evangelicals. In the past, evangelicalism was primarily driven by academic institutions in the North, but now it’s increasingly fueled by entertainment interests in the South. Phil explains this rise of “Christian Nashville-ism.” Then, Skye talks to Bishop Claude Alexander about his book “Necessary Christianity,” and what he believes to be the most urgent issues facing the church today. Plus, more listener feedback about teen mental health research, how puppies, infants, and Baby Yoda hack our brains, and an unexpected animal attack in Ohio.   Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess Communion 101    Holy Post merch store - &nbsp;&nbsp;   0:00 -&nbsp; Intro 3:15 - Theme Song 3:37 - Zebra Attack! 10:38 - Cute Babies 22:45 - Feedback from our Mental Health Discussion 30:56 - The Four Quadrants of American Politics 40:13 - Fragmentation of Evangelical Politics 49:16 - Rise of Christian Nashville-ism   Sponsors 56:57 - Sponsor - Hiya hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order &nbsp; 58:03 - Sponsor: Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at faithfulcounseling.com/holypost&nbsp; &nbsp; 59:07 - Guest Interview - Claude Alexander  &nbsp; 1:03:41 - Determining one’s calling 1:10:08 - What must the American church do today 1:18:58 - What can the white evangelical church learn from the black church &nbsp; 1:31:42 - End Credits &nbsp; Links mentioned in news segment: &nbsp; Ohio man nearly loses arm in zebra attack at farm  &nbsp; Why your brain thinks this puppy is undoubtedly cuter than a baby  &nbsp; Feedback from episode 556’s&nbsp; discussion on mental health  &nbsp; The Four Quadrants of American Politics  &nbsp; The fragmentation of evangelical politics  &nbsp; &nbsp; Other resources: Necessary Christianity: What Jesus Shows We Must Be and Do by Claude Alexander  &nbsp; Becoming the Church: God's People in Purpose and Power by Claude Alexander -&nbsp;  &nbsp; Required: God's Call to Justice, Mercy, and Humility to Overcome Racial Division by Claude Alexander -  &nbsp; The Politics of the Cross: A Christian Alternative to Partisanship by Daniel Williams -&nbsp;    Holy Post website: &nbsp;&nbsp;   Holy Post Patreon: &nbsp;   The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

557: The Rise of Christian Nashville-ism & What Christians Must Do with Claude Alexander

Description: Rick Warren, the founder and former pastor of Saddleback Church, is speaking out after his church was ejected from the Southern Baptist Convention for ordaining women. Phil explains how the SBC went from being accepting of female leaders, to opposing them, to kicking out churches that depart even slightly on the issue. Then, Kaitlyn talks with Dr. Beth Felker Jones and Dr. Amy Peeler about Joshua Butler’s controversial article comparing the gospel to marital sex. They explain what his article gets fundamentally wrong about the New Testament’s marriage metaphor. Plus, a new study finds evangelicals are the least liked religious group in America, except by evangelicals who think they’re great. And someone is anonymously leaving their mark on Broadway.   Patreon Bonus: Bonus Interview with Beth Felker Jones &amp; Amy Peeler    Patreon Bonus: Listener Question    Holy Post merch store -  &nbsp; &nbsp; 0:00 -&nbsp; Intro 2:45 - Theme Song 3:55 - News of the Butt 9:03 - Evangelicals loved by Evangelicals, but not anyone else 14:14 - SBC history around women ordination&nbsp; 26:49 - Denny Burke’s response to Rick Warren 46:14 - Guest Interview - Beth Felker Jones &amp; Amy Peeler 53:47 - Can marriage and sex point us to God? 59:29 - Interpreting the marriage metaphor in Ephesians 5 1::03:11 - Flaws of the giver, receiver framework 1:18:59 - End Credits   Links mentioned in news segment: &nbsp; Fan poops in aisle near Hillary and Chelsea Clinton at Broadway show  &nbsp; Evangelicals Are the Most Beloved US Faith Group Among Evangelicals  &nbsp; &nbsp;The Southern Baptist Convention’s coming ‘Great Ejection’   Rick Warren Has Done the SBC a Great Service    Other resources: &nbsp; The Bible’s Marriage Metaphor Doesn’t Belong In the Bedroom by Amy Peeler  &nbsp; Protestant bodies, Protestant bedrooms, &amp; our furious need for a theology thereof by Beth Felker Jones  &nbsp; Faithful: A Theology of Sex by Beth Felker Jones    Holy Post website:  &nbsp; Holy Post Patreon:  &nbsp; &nbsp; The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

558: Saddleback vs the SBC & Misusing the Marriage Metaphor with Beth Felker Jones & Amy Peeler

It’s becoming increasingly clear that parental rights is poised to be a significant issue in the 2024 election, particularly as it relates to transgenderism and gender-affirming healthcare. Skye Jethani talks to David French about his recent editorial that provoked a backlash from both ends of the political spectrum. French explains why recent efforts in California and Texas, which take opposite positions on youth transgenderism, both violate the long-affirmed rights of parents to make healthcare decisions for their own children without government interference. Is it another case of both the Right and Left embracing illiberal and unconstitutional tactics to fight the Culture War? Or, does the rise of transgenderism among kids demand the government’s intervention regardless of what parents want?   0:00 - Theme Song 5:22 - Don’t Let the Culture War Degrade the Constitution&nbsp; 11:00 - Parental Rights in California 21:47 - Parental Rights in Texas 33:52 - Kaylee McGhee White’s Critique 46:52 - Navigating the polarization of our communities&nbsp; 1:01:40 - End Credits &nbsp; Links mentioned in interview &nbsp; Don’t Let the Culture War Degrade the Constitution      Yes, the state has both the right and the responsibility to restrict gender ideology    Other resources: David French:  &nbsp;  &nbsp; Support us and find premium content by going to  &nbsp; The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

French Friday: Transgenderism & Parental Rights

Description: Immediately after last week’s school shooting in Nashville, opportunists used it to advance their favorite culture war narratives. Why does this happen after every tragedy, and why are we more likely to empathize with victims we identify closely with? Then, what impact will Donald Trump’s indictment have on the 2024 presidential race? Are his evangelical supporters finally ready to move on? And, can preaching really undo the damage and division caused by cable news and social media? Kaitlyn Schiess interviews the authors of “Preaching to a Divided Nation: A Seven-Step Model for Promoting Reconciliation and Unity.” Plus, Levi’s goes AI and Christian is having none of it.   Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled: Baptism 101    Holy Post merch store -  &nbsp; &nbsp; 0:00 -&nbsp; Intro 4:09 - Theme Song 4:30 - Skye tries pickleball 7:17 - Levi’s using AI models 13:23 - Nashville school shooting 19:43 - Avoiding culture war narratives after national tragedies&nbsp; 32:14 - What’s to be learned from tragedies like this 45:51 - Trump’s Indictment &nbsp; Sponsors &nbsp;51:06 - Sponsor - Hiya Health hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order &nbsp; 52:12 - Sponsor: Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at faithfulcounseling.com/holypost &nbsp; 53:16 - Guest Interview - Matthew Kim and Paul Hoffman 59:19 - Does preaching still have an impact on people? 1:11:10 - How to deal with difficult topics through centered and bounded sets 1:16:22 -How to discern when is the right time to bring up a controversial topic &nbsp; &nbsp;1:27:49 - End Credits   Links mentioned in news segment: &nbsp; Levi’s will test AI-generated clothing models to ‘increase diversity’  &nbsp; Why Phil usually waits to comment on national tragedies    Other resources: &nbsp; Preaching to a Divided Nation: A Seven-Step Model for Promoting Reconciliation and Unity by Matthew Kim and Paul Hoffman    Holy Post website:  &nbsp; Holy Post Patreon:  &nbsp; &nbsp; The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

559: The Nashville Shooting & Preaching to a Divided Nation with Matthew Kim & Paul Hoffman

Protests have continued after last month’s school shooting in Nashville, including in the Tennessee state legislature where the majority Republicans expelled two Democrats after their protests broke the rules of decorum. What was really accomplished by this extreme response, and what’s really behind the rise of retaliation politics? Then, Skye talks to Alan Noble about his new book, “On Getting Out of Bed: The Burden and Gift of Living.” Noble says we’ve believed the lies that life is supposed to be pleasurable, that suffering is abnormal, and that our feelings are a reflection of reality. Instead, at a time when depression, anxiety, and loneliness are skyrocketing, he shows how our faith equips us to suffer well. Plus, scientists have grown mammoth meatballs. Yummy!   Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled: Kids in Church 101  &nbsp; &nbsp; 0:00 -&nbsp; Intro &nbsp; 4:15 - Theme Song &nbsp; 4:37 - Woolly Mammoth Meatball &nbsp; 11:27 - Tennessee GOP expels 2 Democrats from state legislature &nbsp; 20:45 - The merging of Christianity with populist right wing politics &nbsp; 31:41 - The rise of retaliation in politics   Sponsors &nbsp; 49:36 - Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at Faithful Counseling.com/HOLYPOST &nbsp; 50:41 - Miracle Made Go to TryMiracle.com/ HOLYPOST and use the code HOLYPOST to claim your free 3 piece towel set and save over 40% off   51:45 - Interview Intro Alan Noble -  &nbsp; 56:15 - Normalizing suffering &nbsp; 1:05:07 - The importance of finding community&nbsp; &nbsp; 1:16:11 - Talking about mental health with nonbelievers&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;1:26:04&nbsp; - End Credits   Links mentioned in news segment: &nbsp; Meatballs made with mammoth DNA created by Australian food startup  &nbsp; How Tennessee GOP expelling 2 Democrats could have ripple effect in other states  &nbsp; Three and Out - Thoughts on Tennessee  &nbsp; 'It's worth it': Charlie Kirk calls school shootings 'a prudent deal' to protect the Second Amendment    Other resources: &nbsp; On Getting Out of Bed: The Burden and Gift of Living by Alan Noble  &nbsp; Holy Post website:  &nbsp; Holy Post Patreon:  &nbsp; Holy Post Merch Store:    The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

560: The Rise of Retaliation Politics & How to Suffer Well with Alan Noble

What is the relationship between the gospel and social justice? Some Christians are stirring controversy with a new statement arguing curing social ills is a distraction from the church’s core mission to save souls. Dr. Russell Moore is back to discuss why this topic is rooted in America’s history of racism, and why those on the extreme right and the extreme left both get it wrong. Plus, millennial evangelicals are rejecting the Christian nationalism of their parents. And why are churches in Montreal in love with cheeses but not Jesus?

Episode 317: Social Justice & the Gospel w/ Russell Moore

Since the 2016 election the statistic that a record-breaking 81% of white evangelicals voted for Trump has been widely cited. But is it correct? Katelyn Beaty is back to unpack new research done by Lifeway and the Billy Graham Center on the issue, but does it really “debunk” the 81% stat? And why did so many white evangelicals pick Trump? Hint—it wasn’t because of abortion. Plus, Phil and Skye discuss why some Christian prayers are really incantations, and the risk of death by selfie.

Episode 323: (Not) Debunking the 81% with Katelyn Beaty

How’s your new year resolution going? Drew Dyck is back to discuss his new book about self-discipline—which we all need more of. Unlike other books on the subject, his combines biblical wisdom with the latest findings from brain science, and Drew used himself as a guinea pig for research. Also this week, a teenage biohacker injected himself with DNA coded from the Bible. Is the lost Ark in Ethiopia? And more evidence political identity is more important that religious identity for white Americans.

Ep 333: Drew Dyck Disciplines Himself

An influential pastor has created a controversy by saying the 10 Commandments don’t apply to Christians anymore. Our favorite Buckeye Bible guy, Mike Erre, is back to talk with Skye about how the Old Testament relates to the New. Phil and Skye discuss the latest round of megachurch pastor scandals, Democratic presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard apologizes for being raised Catholic, and Karen Pence, the vice president’s wife, ignites moral outrage for teaching at a Christian school that requires their faculty to (hold on to your hats) affirm Christian doctrines?

Episode 336: Do Old Testament Commands Still Apply? With Mike Erre

Old Testament professor and friend of the show, Dr. John Walton is back with his latest book in the “Lost World” series. This time he’s tackling common misunderstandings about the Old Testament Law. Walton says modern people incorrectly see the Torah as legislation—laws to be obeyed, but that’s not how Ancient Near Eastern cultures saw it. And the traditional division of OT laws into civil, moral, and ceremonial categories is also misguided. So what does that mean for us? Phil and Skye pepper the prof with questions. Also this week—archeologists find King Josiah under a parking lot (maybe), and herpes in space!

Episode 345: Torah! Torah! Torah! with Dr. John Walton

Skye often tries to bring economics into the show’s theological discussions. This week his dream comes true with guests Brian Fikkert (an economist) and Kelly Kapic (a theologian), co-authors of “Becoming Whole.” They say our ideas about God’s mission are too entangled with Western materialism on the one hand, and not material enough on the other. This conversation will really challenge your assumptions. Also this week, the IRS says the Satanic Temple is a legitimate religion, The Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue now has a model in a burka and hijab, and should we be happy or worried about Kanye West talking a lot about Jesus and leading “Sunday Service” concerts?

Ep 351: The Opposite of Poverty Isn’t the American Dream

With the implosion of evangelical purity culture, and news that its poster child is getting divorced, many are reevaluating the legacy of the movement that dominated youth ministries in the 80s and 90s. Katelyn Beaty is back to talk about her recent article about the problems with the sexual ethics of both evangelical and secular cultures. Also this week, a Catholic school in Indiana is getting heat for firing a teacher in a gay marriage, and the Evangelical Covenant Church banished a 134-year-old congregation for its LGBT policy. These stories provoke the question: Is it still ok for Christian organizations to enforce Christian beliefs? And what does the future look like when nearly half of millennial evangelicals support same-sex marriage?

Episode 362: The Sexual Prosperity Gospel with Katelyn Beaty

Based on a decade of research with the Barna Group, David Kinnaman says we’re not in Kansas anymore. We now occupy digital Babylon—a new world where people are discipled by their screens, don’t know how to have meaningful relationships, and distrust organizations. What does this all mean for the church? He talks with Skye about everything from rethinking preaching, the diminishing value of youth ministry, and a backlash against “professional” worship. Also this week, Phil reads from his new Bible and has a dream/nightmare about Donald Trump. Christian asks where we should get our news from. NFL quarterback Drew Brees gets in trouble for appearing in a Focus on the Family video. And research says the church, like politics, is losing moderates.

Episode 368: Rethinking Church in Digital Babylon with David Kinnaman (Part 2)

For ten years, Scott Harrison was one of the most successful club promoters in NYC. His life was marked by every hedonistic indulgence imaginable. Today, he’s the founder and CEO of Charity:Water, a non-profit that has brought clean water to over 10 million people around the world. Scott shares the remarkable story of his transformation and faith with Skye in an interview you won’t want to miss. Also this week, the head of a Catholic school bans Harry Potter books because he fears the spells they contain are real. New data says Millennials are abandoning God, country, and family. Is there a single explanation for all three? The podcast gang debates the leading theories. And Phil is hopeful about a new NPR podcast that interviews religious believers.

Episode 369: From Models & Bottles to Water & Wells with Scott Harrison

89-year-old Dr. John Perkins has a lot to say to Christians about race, friendship, and the power of God’s love. The civil rights legend talks with Skye about his remarkable life, the problem with everyone focusing on their victimhood, and how “real reconciliation is washing each other’s wounds.” Also this week: John MacArthur tells Beth Moore to “Go home.” His audience laughed; Christian-twitter did not. Phil and Skye debate whether MacArthur even matters anymore. New Pew data says the U.S. will be majority non-Christian by 2035. Plus, the world’s largest ouija board debuts in Salem, Massachusetts.

Episode 374: Parting Words to the Church on Race & Love with Dr. John Perkins

Before Edison invented the lightbulb the average American slept 11 hours each night. Technology hasn’t just made life easier, it’s made it a lot busier. John Mark Comer is back to discuss his new book about the importance of slowing down in order to deepen our life with God. Also this week: $3,000 sneakers infused with water from the Jordan River sell out. Harvest (finally) declares James MacDonald “disqualified” from ministry. How should we feel about Kanye becoming a Christian? And Baptists and Catholics partner to save marriages in Florida.

Episode 376: The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry with John Mark Comer

Fred Rogers is all the rage. He spoke to children and families for decades on the PBS show “Mister Rogers Neighborhood” and a movie about him starring Tom Hanks is releasing this month. But fewer people realize Rogers was an ordained minister with a deep faith. Shea Tuttle talks to Skye about her remarkable spiritual biography of Fred Rogers—a Christian who defied categories with a holistic vision of faith. Also this week, “Christian chicken with a picket” in the U.K., a Gospel singer boycotts TBN and the Dove Awards, a secularist laments that we’re no longer a Christian nation, and Phil’s excited about a smart Chinese toilet that can change the world.

Episode 377: The Faith of Mister Rogers with Shea Tuttle

Our friend, Brandon O’Brien, is back on the show to discuss his new book “Not From Around Here.” Drawing from his upbringing in rural Arkansas and his new life in Manhattan, O’Brien examines the divide between urban and rural Americans, and how the divisions are hurting both the country and the church. He also explores the best way to heal the divisions and move forward. His wisdom is exactly what we need heading into an election year. Also this week: Francis Chan announces he’s moving to Asia to be a missionary and offers a few parting shots at the American church. Plus, why we might need fewer teachers and preachers if we really want to advance the mission of Christ. And, Soviet nuclear cannibal ants are on the march.

Episode 378: Is the “Real” America Urban or Rural? with Brandon O’Brien

Over just a few decades, we’ve seen the acceptance of no-fault divorce, the growth of the gay rights movement, the legalization of same-sex marriage, and now transgenderism. What’s next? Scholar and author Preston Sprinkle is back to help us understand the emerging affirmation of polyamory. Also this week, Skye is back from Europe and Phil becomes a grandfather (again). Plus, is Chick-Fil-A still Christian chicken with a pickle? Controversy erupts after the company’s decision to stop donations to ministries.

Episode 380: The Next Sexual Frontier with Preston Sprinkle

Are machines going to take over the world? What happens to our jobs once everything is automated? And if computers can think, learn, and feel, do we need to redefine what it means to be human? Jason Thacker joins Skye for a conversation about his provocative new book, “The Age of A.I.” Also this week, Smurfs congregate in France in defiance of the coronavirus. Creators of “The Bum” allow you to wear celebrity posteriors. And with everyone migrating to streaming worship services during the pandemic, how legitimate is virtual church? Plus, Phil alienates the country of Belgium.

Episode 397: Virtual Church & Artificial Intelligence with Jason Thacker

Everyone seems to be talking about justice—including Christians, but how we define “justice” in our society is hotly debated. Pastor and author Tim Keller has outlined 4 competing definitions of justice, and what sets Biblical justice apart from the rest. The Holy Post crew reviews Keller’s article and its implications. Liberty University has put Jerry Falwell Jr. on “indefinite leave.” Was it Falwell’s race-baiting, financial shenanigans, authoritarian leadership, or abuse of power that motivated Liberty’s board to act? Nope—it was a sexually-suggestive photo with Falwell holding alcohol. What does it say about what triggers evangelicals (and what doesn’t)? Also this week, friend of the show and host of the Vox Podcast, Mike Erre, talks with Skye about why Christians are drawn to conspiracy theories, and what motivated Skye to write his new book, “What If Jesus Was Serious?” Plus, Phil explains why he wants to live in a world where wild boar stroll into public areas with their piglets to steal things—and where naked Germans chase them.

Episode 417: Defining Justice, Disciplining Jerry Falwell Jr., & Debunking Conspiracies

We are deep into campaign season with Christians on all sides becoming increasingly anxious and vocal. Phil talks with Kaitlyn Schiess, author of “The Liturgy of Politics,” about the false narratives shaping the hearts and politics of many Christians. She identifies these “false gospels” as prosperity, patriotism, security, and supremacy—and they’re far more subtle and powerful than you might think, and they affect both sides of the partisan divide. Also this week, Jerry Falwell Jr. responds to his expulsion from Liberty U. by quoting MLK’s “Free at last...” speech. And Mike Pence quotes the Bible in his RNC speech but replaces “Jesus” with “Old Glory.” Is it the clearest example of Christian Nationalism yet? “What Jerry Falwell Jr. Taught Me at Liberty University” by Kaitlyn Schiess:  “The Liturgy of Politics” by Kaitlyn Schiess:  “Vice President Mike Pence Swapped Out “Jesus” for “Old Glory” in His RNC Address”:

Episode 420: Four False Political Gospels with Kaitlyn Schiess

Recently, Young Earth Creation (YEC) champion Ken Ham took exception to Phil's statement that Ham "rejects mainstream science." In the flurry of social media activity that followed, a number of YEC experts took Phil to task, claiming he was wrong on several facts. Phil dug deeper and realized he WAS in fact wrong on a couple of things, but right on a bunch more. So this week Phil lays out what he got wrong and what he got right as we take a deep dive into the fascinating history of the movement called "Creation Science," or Ken Ham-style "Young Earth Creationism." &nbsp; Buckle up!&nbsp; It's a fun one!

Episode 437: Ham on Phil - A Brief History of Young Earth Creationism

How do you know if you’re a Christian nationalist? Kaitlyn Schiess is back with Phil and Skye to unpack Samuel Perry’s top 10 indicators of Christian nationalism and they add a few of their own. They also discuss why there’s so much overlap between Christian nationalism and Christian fundamentalism. Plus, Phil explains how the evolution of contemporary Christian music reveals what’s happened to the American church. Then, Skye talks with Preston Sprinkle about his new book “Embodied: Transgender Identities, the Church, and What the Bible Has to Say.” They discuss what extremists on the Right and Left get wrong about transgenderism, and what a pastoral, not just a theological, response looks like. Also this week, a more accurate covid test is being used in China—but there’s a downside. &nbsp;  &nbsp;

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