AND introducing...our first ever miniseries! WELCOME TO WE POD ECONO: an Our Band Could Be Your Life miniseries! We are taking a journey through Michael Azerrad’s chronicle of the 1980’s American underground rock scene. And today we start that journey with the legendary...BLACK FLAG. We’re joined by artist/comedian/podcaster Branson Reese to explore Black Flag’s heavy history and the life of legendary intense guy Henry Rollins.

Check out Branson’s book of comics, Hell Was Full: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Hell-Was-Full/Branson-Reese/Hell-Was-Full/9781620107430
And I implore you, listen to Branson’s amazing DnD podcast Rude Tales of Magic: https://www.rudetalesofmagic.com/

Songs in Order:
Television - Little Johnny Jewel
Black Flag - Nervous Breakdown
Black Flag - Rise Above
Black Flag - TV Party
Black Flag - My War
Black Flag - Three Nights

And Introducing

#86 BLACK FLAG! (ft. Branson Reese)

And introducing, WE POD ECONO: an Our Band Could Be Your Life miniseries! We are taking a journey through Michael Azerrad’s chronicle of the 1980’s American underground rock scene, continuing today with Chapter Two: The Minutemen! We’re joined by Max & Doug of the Chicago-based indie label Hausu Mountain to talk mersh, gigs, fliers, corndogs from Pedro and all things jamming econo.

Follow @HausuMountain on twitter. 
Hausu Mountain on bandcamp: https://hausumountain.bandcamp.com/
Hausu Mountain website: https://hausumountain.com/
That Prolaps release Doug mentions is indeed sick, check it out: https://hausumountain.bandcamp.com/album/ultra-cycle-pt-1-vernal-birth

Songs In Order:
Minutemen - Sickles and Hammers
Minutemen - Fascist
Minutemen - Bob Dylan Wrote Propaganda Songs
Minutemen - The Anchor
Minutemen - Jesus and Tequila
Minutemen - Corona
Minutemen - The Glory of Man
Minutemen - King of the Hill
Unknown Instructros - Out in the Cold
Minutemen - History Lesson - Part II

#87 MINUTEMEN! (ft. Hausu Mountain)

And introducing WE POD ECONO: an Our Band Could Be Your Life miniseries! We are taking a journey through Michael Azerrad’s chronicle of the 1980’s American underground rock scene, continuing today with Chapter Four: Minor Threat! We’re joined by Street Fight Radio’s Bryan Quinby to talk hardcore, straightedge, punk houses, DIY and all things Minor Threat:

Check out Street Fight Radio: https://www.streetfightradio.com/
And of course, the P.O.D.Kast: https://thepodkast.libsyn.com/

SONGS:
Teen Idles - Get Up and Go
Monkees - Stepping Stone
Minor Threat - Straight Edge
Minor Threat - Out of Step
Minor Threat - Salad Days

#89 MINOR THREAT! (ft. Bryan Quinby)

And introducing WE POD ECONO: an Our Band Could Be Your Life miniseries! We are taking a journey through Michael Azerrad’s chronicle of the 1980’s American underground rock scene, continuing today with Chapter Five: Husker Du! We’re joined by culture critic Steven Hyden to set the Land Speed Record of podcasting and do the Dü.

Check out Steven’s books here: https://www.amazon.com/Steven-Hyden/e/B01H0F6IDU%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
And check out his writing on Uproxx: https://uproxx.com/author/steven-hyden/

Songs in order:
Hüsker Dü - Gilligan’s Island
Hüsker Dü - New Day Risingl (Live 1987)
Hüsker Dü - It’s Not Funny Anymore
Hüsker Dü - Chartered Trips
Hüsker Dü - Something I Learned Today
Hüsker Dü - I Apologize
Hüsker Dü - The Girl Who Lives on Heaven Hill
Hüsker Dü - Books About UFOs
Hüsker Dü - Flexible Flyer
Hüsker Dü - The Baby Song
Hüsker Dü - Crystal
Hüsker Dü - Standing In The Rain

#90 HÜSKER DÜ! (ft. Steven Hyden)

And introducing WE POD ECONO: an Our Band Could Be Your Life miniseries! We are taking a journey through Michael Azerrad’s chronicle of the 1980’s American underground rock scene, continuing today with Chapter Six: The Replacements! We’re joined by Felix Biederman to examine the self-sabotaging career of one of the greatest American bands-that-couldn’t.

Songs:
The Replacements - Something to Dü
The Replacements - Kids Don’t Follow
The Replacements - Willpower
The Replacements - Take Me Down To The Hospital
The Replacements - I Will Dare
The Replacements - Androgynous
The Replacements - Swinging Party
The Replacements - Bastards of Young

#91 THE REPLACEMENTS! (ft. Felix Biederman)

And introducing, WE POD ECONO: an Our Band Could Be Your Life miniseries! We are taking a journey through Michael Azerrad’s chronicle of the 1980’s American underground rock scene, continuing today with Chapter Eight: Butthole Surfers!  We’re joined by NPR World Cafe’s Raina Douris to take a look at the Texas-tinged acid-fried world of these genuine rock n roll maniacs, smash the fire cymbal, and commit a little Culturcide along the way.

Check out World Cafe here: https://www.npr.org/sections/world-cafe/
And check out Blind Eye Sees All: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW0mXU2mkgo

Songs
Butthole Surfers - Butthole Surfer
Butthole Surfers - The Shah Sleeps in Lee Harvey Oswalds Grave
Butthole Surfers - Lady Sniff
Butthole Surfers - Creep in the Cellar
Butthole Surfers - American Woman
Butthole Surfers - Gary Floyd/Sweet Loaf (Live, Atlanta, May 15 1987)
Butthole Surfers - Sweet Loaf
Butthole Surfers - The O-men
Culturcide - Bruce
Butthole Surfers - Jimi
Butthole Surfers - John E. Smoke
Butthole Surfers - Who Was In My Room Last Night?

#93 BUTTHOLE SURFERS! (ft. Raina Douris)

And introducing WE POD ECONO: an Our Band Could Be Your Life miniseries! We are taking a journey through Michael Azerrad’s chronicle of the 1980’s American underground rock scene, continuing today with Chapter Ten: Dinosaur Jr.! We’re joined by Time Crisis and Mountain Brews’ Jake Longstreth to take a look at Dinosaur Jr., the band that pushes volume, epic guitarmanship, and toxic interpersonal relationships to the absolute limit.

GET TIX TO THE FRQNCY1 FEST HERE: https://frqncy.live/frqncy1
Check out Jake’s band Moutain Brews here: https://mountainbrews.bandcamp.com/

SONGS IN ORDER:
Deep Wound - I Saw It
Dinosaur Jr. - The Leper
Dinosaur Jr. - Poledo
Dinosaur Jr. - Sludgefest
Dinosaur Jr. - The Lung
Dinosaur Jr. - Freak Scene
Dinosaur Jr. - I Ran Away
Dinosaur Jr. - Crumble
Dinosaur Jr. - Show Me The Way

#95 DINOSAUR JR. (feat. Jake Longstreth)

And introducing, in therapy, it’s Metallica: Some Kind of Monster! For our 100th EPISODE we’ve decided to return to our roots in HARD ROCK, but instead of looking at it’s decadent heights, examining it at it’s most grinding, tedious, bureaucratic lows. We’re talking about the fantastic 2004 documentary Metallica: Some Kind of Monster, following the heavy metal goliaths as they drift aimlessly, tensions high, missing a member, recording an album no one’s interested in - including themselves - and most hilariously in FULL BAND therapy. And through it, finding one of the most fascinating and intimate portrayals of a rock band ever made. 

SONGS
Metallica - Seek & Destroy
Metallica - Frantic
Metallica - St. Anger

#100 METALLICA!

And introducing….OPPRESSED by the music industry! Silenced for their ART! It’s Jared Leto and Thirty Seconds To Mars!!  Yes this week is a mmmmmmovie episode. We’re joined by Matty Monroe and Gavin Wilks of the Indieheads Podcast to dive into the wildly mediocre world of Oscar Winner Jared Leto’s alt rock act and its struggle with their label EMI, through his 2012 self-direct documentary ARTIFACT. 

Check out the Indieheads podcast here: https://rindieheadspodcast.wordpress.com/

#104 30 SECONDS TO MARS! (ft. Indieheads Pod)

Can we pod you a cast? Today's episode focuses on T-Pain, a talented musician and a notable bon vivant with a taste for the good life. Said taste is displayed in a new book of cocktail recipes and general drinking wisdom called Can I Mix You a Drink?, which T-Pain collaborated on with noted hospitality pro Maxwell Britten (curated by Kathy Iandoli), and which features 50 cocktail recipes inspired by T-Pain's abundant catalog.

We talk about T-Pain's life and work and then we chatted with Maxwell Britten himself about working with T-Pain, the process of putting together a cocktail book, how to drink like a pro, what kind of snacks T-Pain gets served at the strip club. It was a great time!

Here's the book: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/688058/can-i-mix-you-a-drink-by-t-pain/

Music played in the episode:
"All I Do Is Win" - 8 Bit Universe
"I'm Fucked Up" - T-Pain
"I'm 'N Luv (Wit a Stripper)" - T-Pain
"Buy U a Drank (Shawty Snappin') (Tiny Desk Concert Version)" - T-Pain
"Buy U a Drank (Shawty Snappin')" - T-Pain
"All I Do Is Win" - DJ Khaled feat. T-Pain, Ludacris, Snoop Dogg & Rick Ross

#105 T-PAIN! (ft. Maxwell Britten)

And introducing, a guy who nobody knows at all, someone who has released music that literally not a soul cares about...it's Bob Dylan! Just kidding, we are aware he's very popular. And he had a very popular...memoir? autobiography? autofiction? book to prove it. On this episode, we discuss Bob's 2004 "tome" Chronicles, Vol 1 with two guys who certainly know their Empire Burlesque from their Blood On The Tracks — Evan and Ian from the Jokermen Podcast! We get into many but definitely not all things Bob, from his weapons-hoarding NYC roommate, to his obsession with the Civil War, to his completely obscure "numbers" system that apparently has influenced his live shows for the past like 40 years, and the Jokermen school us in some elite and deep-cut Bob Dylan anecdotes along the way. Listen now and you too might have a time that might have a-changed, at some point.

Buy Bob's book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Chronicles/Bob-Dylan/9780743244589
Jokermen Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jokermen-a-podcast-about-bob-dylan/id1519299517
The Jokermen Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/jokermen

Songs in this ep:
"The Times, They Are A-Changin' (8-Bit)" - ChubbyBunny
"Blonde On Blonde" - Nada Surf
"Jokerman" - Bob Dylan
"Maggie's Farm (Live At Budokan)" - Bob Dylan
"Baby, Let Me Follow You Down" - Bob Dylan
"The Man In Me" - Bob Dylan
"Series Of Dreams" - Bob Dylan

#107 BOB DYLAN! (feat. Jokermen)

And introducing…the King of Rock and Roll, Elvis Presley! We welcome Atlantic movie critic and co-host of the Blank Check podcast David Sims back to the pod to discuss Baz Lurhmann’s new biopic ELVIS. We talk about the King’s legacy, Baz’s filmography, Tom Hanks going sicko mode, whether the music biopic genre can be transcended (or if it’s been fully murdered by Walk Hard), and all the pop-culture Elvis missed. RIP Elvis, you would have loved mdma.

Check out Molly’s essay on attending a Deadmau5 NFT party: https://themollyzone.com/post/687870869007187968/i-went-to-a-music-nft-party

David’s work at the Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/author/david-sims/
All things Blank Check: https://www.blankcheckpod.com/

#111 ELVIS! (ft. David Sims)

Yeah I'm thinking we're back. Back with a big one. Back with Bono. He wrote a memoir called Surrender: 40 Songs, One Story and we're podcasting all about it. Well, not all about it, but about half of it, because Bono's book is so meaty that it requires a two-part podcast. We dig into Bono's early life in bubblin' Dublin, the crucial single week where he asked out his wife and joined U2, his political awakening and initial transition into "foreign dignitary," and the time he made a Parmesan cheese sandwich at Paul McGuinness's house. It's a wild ride, and an Irish one. Missed you guys :)

Subscribe to Molly's music newsletter (it costs $0): https://themollyzone.beehiiv.com/

Songs in the episode:
"With Or Without You (8-Bit U2 Cover)" - 8-Bit Misfits
"Teenage Kicks" - The Undertones
"I Will Follow" - U2
"Sunday Bloody Sunday" - U2
"Pride (In The Name of Love)" - U2
"Do They Know It's Christmas?" Band Aid
"Where The Streets Have No Name" - U2
"Where The Streets Have No Name (Live)" - The Killers
"Big Boy" - Viagra Boys and Jason Williamson
"The Fly" - U2

#116 BONO! pt. 1

We're going back, Jack, and we're doing it again with another angle on the Steely Dan story. Last time we were listening to Donald Fagen complain about hotel pools with Matthew Perpetua; this time we're talking about the freaky characters of Steely Dan's lyrical universe with writer Alex Pappademas and artist Joan LeMay, who together created the book 'Quantum Criminals: Ramblers, Wild Gamblers, and Other Sole Survivors from the Songs of Steely Dan.' We get into the gentleman-loser trope so common in Dan tunes, marvel at the absurdity of Steely Dan's recording budgets, and ponder the existence of the Squonk and its tears. Enjoy!


Buy the book: https://utpress.utexas.edu/9781477324998/

Songs featured:
"Do It Again (8-Bit)" - 8BitRenditions
"Deacon Blues" - Steely Dan

#118 STEELY DAN! (ft. Alex Pappademas & Joan LeMay)

We're joined by musician Dan Boeckner (Wolf Parade, Divine Fits, Handsome Furs, Operators, Arcade Fire) to chat about his life and career in music. We touch on everything from terrible tour stews, leveling up to arena shows, burning CD-Rs in hotel rooms, telemarketing, too much fog machine and more. We also spend a good deal of time on the constantly shifting landscape of online and digital music distribution, how it's affected his career, and why it's so difficult to buy a simple dang .WAV file. Finally, Dan teases some upcoming projects that the Boeckner! heads will really enjoy.

Dan's back on social media, please follow him so he can promote his stuff:
Twitter: @d_boeckner
Insta: @boec_kner

Also, if you're not listening to Pretty Dim Wonder, the narrative fiction comedy podcast Dan does with Charles from Episode 1, you absolutely should. I think most And Intro heads would get a kick out of it: https://pod.link/1618321478

#119 DAN BOECKNER!

And Introducing is back and we're talking to another musician we like today. Actually two musicians! Emily Ash and Kayla Asbell play in the truly excellent NYC rock and roll band 95 Bulls—Emily on vocals, Kayla on keys—and we caught them in the middle of writing their next album, which will follow 2022's face-ripper Go Home. We talked about the power of Benihana, cranky sound guys, and much much more...give the pod a listen, why doncha?

Follow 95 Bulls: https://www.instagram.com/95bullsnyc/
Check out 95 Bulls' link aggregation: https://linktr.ee/95bullsnyc

Music featured in this episode:
95 Bulls "Young Love"
95 Bulls "Crazy"
95 Bulls "Big Fight"
Devo "Gut Feeling" (95 Bulls cover)
Dead Tooth "Electric Earth"
Hank Wood and the Hammerheads "YOU WANNA DIE"
Balaclava "Dumb City"

#120 95 BULLS!

And Introducing, back again, and featuring an interview with an artist that we think you just might love...A Beacon School!

A Beacon School is Patrick J. Smith, a musician in New York City whose pleasing indie pop compositions are gaining big-time steam for listeners worldwide—we're talking millions of streams, TV show syncs, and a multi-city tour coming up later this month. We talked to Patrick about release day Dunkin' Donuts orders, getting kicked out of the venue before 'the late show,' guitar pedal secrets, the problem with remixes, and trying one's best to figure out merch sizing. 

Songs featured:
A Beacon School - "Algernon"
A Beacon School - "Honeyed (Stay Forever)"
MAXBAND - "Unsaid"
A Beacon School - "KITM"
A Beacon School - "Adore"
A Beacon School - "Jon"
ford. -  "In Motion"  (Feat. A Beacon School)
ford. -  "In Motion" (Bay Ledges Remix)

Listen to A Beacon School: https://abeaconschool.bandcamp.com
Follow A Beacon School on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abeaconschool

#121 A BEACON SCHOOL!

Another 'And Introducing, Also Interviewing' up on deck. This time we're talking to bad tuner, an electronic musician in Brooklyn—he just put out an EP called look at me but through me, whose single "24 hours" f*cked our sh*t up but utterly when it arrived on our ears' doorstep. We had a great chat with bad tuner about the current club culture in NYC, how to find the samples no one else is using, guerrilla music video making, and why he can't read when you put big text on your phone and hold it up in the crowd...

Listen to the bad tuner EP: https://badtuner.bandcamp.com/album/look-at-me-but-through-me

Music in this episode:

bad tuner - "24 hours"
Röyksopp - "Remind Me"
bad tuner - "jade"
bad tuner - "repeat to fade" (feat. Pollena)

#122 BAD TUNER!

It's another And Introducing, Also Interviewing, and we're talking to Nick Llobet from the NYC-based band Youbet! They put out an album called Compare & Despair in 2020 and are back with a fresh new album out called Way To Be (which came out on Hardly Art on May 10th). We talked to Nick about a bunch of things: breaking out of a creative funk by learning folk songs, writing with a Bandcamp songwriting group, teaching other people guitar...it's a nice conversation, we encourage you to listen.

Listen to Way to Be: https://youbetband.bandcamp.com/album/way-to-be

Music in this episode: 
youbet - "Volcano"
youbet - "Carsick"
youbet - "Way to Be"
youbet - "Peel"
youbet - "Seeds of Evil"

#123 youbet!

Welcome to another And Introducing, Also Interviewing, where today we are talking to Nick Thorburn! You might also known Nick Thorburn as Nick Diamonds. He's been a consistently joyous and joyously consistent presence on the "indie rock" circuit for over twenty years. He fronts the band Islands (and previously The Unicorns) and they have a new album out called What Occurs. We had Nick on the pod to talk about the album as well as his unique live band member Andy, indie rock beeves, and much much more...

Listen to What Occurs: https://islandsmusic.bandcamp.com/album/what-occurs

Nick's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/NickfromIslands

Music in this episode:
Islands - "What Occurs"
The Unicorns - "Tuff Ghost"
Islands - "Tangerine"
Islands - "The Arm"
Islands - "Talk Is Cheap"
Roy Orbison - "Candy Colored Clown"
The Stills - "Still In Love Song"
Islands - "Boll Weevil"

#124 NICK THORBURN!

I can feel it coming ON the air tonight...a podcast about Phil Collins. Well, the first part of a podcast about Phil Collins. We're talking about his child actor youth, his mod adolescence, his rock 'n' roll grindset that got him a slot in Genesis, his scoot from the drumset to the front of the stage after Peter Gabriel's departure, and the hella divorced energy beginnings of his epic solo career. All through his own words, his memoir Not Dead Yet: The Memoir. Plug in your drum machine and don't f*ck up your shot at playing the bongos on a George Harrison record...because folks are saying there's still time to make it an Abacab summer. 

The book: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/538475/not-dead-yet-by-phil-collins/

Songs in order:
Katy Perry - Women’s World
Leo Karpatze - The Monster Fuck
Genesis - Dancing With The Moonlit Knight
Genesis - Supper’s Ready
Genesis - Dance on a Volcano
Genesis - Follow You, Follow Me
Genesis - Burning Rope
Phil Collins - In The Air Tonite
Phil Collins - Tomorrow Never Knows
Genesis - Behind the Lines
Genesis - Turn it on Again
Genesis - Abacab
Phil Collins - Can’t Hurry Love
Phil Collins - Against All Odds

#125 PHIL COLLINS pt.1!

It's part 2 of our excavation of Phil Collins' memoir Not Dead Yet: The Memoir. We've reached the mid-1980s and the boy is absolutely everywhere...can he sustain the breakneck pace of being one of the most celebrated (and oversaturated) Brits in pop music history? We cover his stressful transcontinental Live Aid experience, his Disneyfied '90s, his vibrant but turbulent romantic life, his big band era, and much much more.


The book: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/538475/not-dead-yet-by-phil-collins/


Songs in order: 
Phil Collins - Against All Odds (8-Bit cover by HumanDaikon)
Phil Collins - Invisible Touch
Led Zeppelin - Rock And Roll (Live At Live Aid)
Phil Collins - Everyday
Phil Collins - Sussudio
The Phil Collins Big Band - Pick Up the Pieces (Average White Band cover)
Phil Collins - You'll Be In My Heart
Phil Collins - No Way Out (Theme from Brother Bear)
Phil Collins - Uptight (Everything's Alright) (Stevie Wonder cover)
Phil Collins - Take Me Home

#126 PHIL COLLINS pt. 2!

And introducing…on lead vocals, it’s Serj Tankian! We delve into the life of turn of the millennium metal icons System of a Down’s frontman Serj Tankian. Repping Armenia via Glendale, Serj’s life covers everything from founding software companies to composing whale-themed orchestras. We look into his politics, nu-metal in general, a passion for espresso, his signature growls and yelps, and revolutionary participation, as with SOAD’s wild musical success along the way.

Songs in order:
System of a Down - Sugar
System of a Down - Prison Song
System of a Down - Chop Suey
System of a Down - I-E-A-I-A-I-O
System of a Down - Boom
System of a Down - BYOB
Serj Tankian - Empty Walls
Serj Tankian - Orca Act II - Oceanic Subterfuge
System of a Down - Protect the Land
System of a Down - Toxicity

#127 SERJ TANKIAN!

Welcome to the Willenium, baby! We’re joined by YouTube’s Todd in the Shadows to look at the musical career of Will Smith. From growing up under the influence of his demanding father, to discovering his performing (and lying) abilities in school, clicking with Jazzy Jeff, indulging in “chicken wings,” his super-star turn to acting & extremely self-conscious return to hip-hop, we track Will’s music & celebrity up to “the slap” and beyond from his 2021 memoir Will. As Todd says, may be one of the weirdest guys he’s ever encountered.

Check out Todd’s Trainwerckords video on Will Smith: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNm0HDCRdnc&ab_channel=ToddintheShadows
Plus Todd’s always great year-end videos,
Worst Songs of 2024: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8ssUcZSqV8&ab_channel=ToddintheShadows
Best songs of 2024: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkXpvScL94Q&ab_channel=ToddintheShadows

Songs in order:
DJ Jazzy Jeff - Peter Piper Routine
DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince - Girls Ain’t Nothing but Trouble
DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince - I Think I Can Beat Mike Tyson
DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince - Summertime
Will Smith - Don’t Say Nothing
Will Smith & Joyner Lucas - Tantrum
Neil Cicierega - Wow Wow


#128 WILL SMITH! (ft. Todd in the Shadows)

And Introducing film correspondent, Blank Check pod & the Atlantic’s David Sims returns for two more recent musician biopics: James Mangold’s A Complete Unknown & Michael Gracey’s Better Man. Two very different movies about very different musicians that nonetheless explore similar themes on the nature of fame, talent & musicianship. We talk Timmy, Bobby, Robbie & more, and see if there’s still juice to squeeze from the biopic genre. Plus of course: does the monkey play?

Listen to David on Blank Check wherever you get pods and subscribe here: https://www.patreon.com/blankcheck
Check out David’s writing in the Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/author/david-sims/
Read Molly’s music blog: https://www.ienjoymusic.net/


#129 - A BETTER UNKNOWN! (ft. David Sims)

And introducing...Kanye West! Chris and Molly are joined by online expert Felix Biederman to discuss Kanye's latest tear through Twitter, his sudden (but not necessarily unexpected) embrace of Trump, his new music, his ability to bend the world to his will, the intersection of politics & celebrity, and why hip-hop beefs have gotten so lame. 

Songs:

Runaway (wade pod dub)
Kanye West - Ye vs. the People (starring TI as the People)
Kanye West -  MAGA Hat Full Freestyle
Kanye West - Lift Yourself
Kanye West - Father Stretch My Hands pt. 1
Cam’ron feat. Kanye West - Down and Out (Instrumental)

And Introducing Podcast

#25 KANYE WEST! (ft. Felix Biederman)

And Introducing…Lorde and Jack Antonoff! We’re joined by by twitter user @BuzzKillary, a.k.a. Hillary Benton to discuss her deeply researched powerpoint theory that postulates Lorde’s second album, Melodrama, is about her secret, torrid affair with older producer Jack Antonoff…an affair that ended his 5 year relationship with Lena Dunham.

Hillary’s Powerpoint is here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rFJuHw8zQ0iBkcYQNr6FABPvW0Rm4RW2/view

Songs:
Chris Wade - Green Light (pod dub)
Lorde - Royals
Bruce Springseen - Royals
Lorde - Green Light
Bleachers - Don’t Take The Money
Lorde - Liability
Lorde - Sober

#28 THE LORDE/ANTONOFF CONSPIRACY! (ft. Hillary Benton)

And Introducing, on backup vocals, it’s Mary Wilson! Wilson achieved fame and fortune as one third of Motown powerhouses The Supremes — but the schemings of lead singer Diana Ross shattered Mary’s confidence as the group’s star rose through the 60s. We’re learning about her fulfilled dreams, her dashed hopes, and her long road toward self-actualization in her memoir Dreamgirl: My Life as a Supreme.

Songs In Order:
You Can't Hurry Love(pod dub)
Adam Ant - Where Did Our Love Go
Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers - Why Do Fools Fall In Love
The Marvelettes - Please Mr. Postman
The Miracles - I Gotta Dance To Keep From Crying
The Supremes - Because 
The Supremes - Baby, Baby, Wo Ist Unsere Liebe
The Supremes - Stop! In the Name of Love
The Supremes - Come and Get These Memories
The Magnetic Fields - The Death of Ferdinand de Saussure

#37 MARY WILSON!

We’re jumping formats for a special bonus episode discussing a MOVIE about music: BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY, the new film about Freddie Mercury and Queen. David Sims, film critic and host of the great movies podcast Blank Check stops by to talk Queen, bad music biopic tropes, terrible fake teeth, and why Brian May is the Slash of England. 

Listen to Blank Check: https://soundcloud.com/griffin-and-david-present

BONUS: BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY! (ft. David Sims)

And introducing…SoundCloud Rap! We finally cover this chaotic, “DIY” genre of Hip Hop that’s quickly engulfing all of mainstream music through Carrie Battan’s GQ article “How SoundCloud Rap Took Over Everything”. Featuring returning guest Felix Biederman. 

“How SoundCloud Rap Took Over Everything” by Carrie Battan
https://www.gq.com/story/soundcloud-rap-boom-times

Tarpley Hitt’s piece on XXXTentacion
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/music/the-real-story-of-rapper-xxxtentacion-10410980

Songs:
Juice WRLD - Lucid Dreams (Chris Cover)
Ski Mask The Slump God - Nuketown 
6IX9INE - GUMMO
XXXTentacion - LOOK AT ME!
XXXTentacion - Depression & Obsession

#46 SOUNDCLOUD RAP! (ft. Felix Biederman)

And introducing…the day we’re always never forgetting, it’s 9/11 in popular music! Yes, since we started this show, we’ve noticed almost every musician we’ve covered who’s lived through 9/11 has had BIG THOUGHTS about that important day. So for this year’s 11th of September we brought in Chapo Trap House’s Matt Christman to take a complete survey of how 9/11 broke the brains of the America’s musicians, just as it broke the brains of every American.

Songs:

Psy - Kill Those Yankees
U2 - Where the Streets Have No Name (live at the Super Bowl)
Limp Bizkit - Rollin’ (Air Raid Vehicle)
Tame Impala - Feels Like We Only Go Backwards
Cake - Comfort Eagle
Darryl Worley - Have You Forgotten?
I Am The World Trade Center - Metro (Brooklyn Mix)

#58 9/11 IN MUSIC! (ft. Matt Christman)

And introducing, one of the greatest rock bands around, it’s Radiohead! In a long-time-brewing episode, we finally get around to talking ‘head from every angle (and finally putting to rest the age old question: Radiohead, good or nah?) from an unauthorized 2000 biography from Mac Randall called “Exit Music: the Radiohead Story”. Featuring our friend, Brooklyn-based musician Mesita.

Check out Mesita’s music on Spotify or ask him to make a 5 second song for you at https://twitter.com/mesitamusic

Songs in Order:
Radiohead - Creep
Talk Talk - Talk Talk
Talk Talk - New Grass
Blur - Ambulance
Oh Sees - Block of Ice
Oh Sees - Web
On a Friday - Demo (1986)
Radiohead - Blow Out
Radiohead - Creep (Live at MTV Spring Break 1993)
Radiohead - Just
Radiohead - Nobody Does it Better (live for MTV Europe)
Radiohead - Let Down
Radiohead - Exit Music
Radiohead - Paranoid Android

#59 RADIOHEAD! (ft. Mesita)

And introducing…The Fall! It’s the story of punk rock’s orneriest group and of course the front man synonymous with the name, Mark E. Smith. Chapo Trap House’s Will Menaker joins us to learn all about Smith and the Fall through the recollections of the dozens and dozens…and dozens of musicians used up and discarded in Fall’s chaotic wake, through Dave Simpson’s “The Fallen: Life In and Out of Britain’s Most Insane Group”.

Songs
The Fall - Totally Wired (chris cover)
The Fall - Pacifying Joint
The Fall - In My Area
The Fall - Two Steps Back
The Fall - Eat Y’self Fitter
The Fall - Theme From Sparta F.C.
The Fall - Spector vs. Rector

#60 THE FALL! (ft. Will Menaker)

#61 BAD SONGS!

And introducing…the worst songs ever! In an “easy listening” ep, we’re looking at Twitter’s suggestions for the worst song ever, deciding what makes a song bad, and making our own picks for worst songs of all time.

Thanks to @kathbarbadoro for teeing this up for us with her tweet!
https://twitter.com/kathbarbadoro/status/1183434147248951303

Songs
Rufus featuring Chacka Khan - Tell Me Something Good
O.A.R. - That Was A Crazy Game of Poker
The Gourds - Gin and Juice
Ben Folds - Bitches Ain’t Shit
MAGIC! - Rude
MAGIC! - Rude (Zedd Remix)
Panic! At the Disco - Hey Look Ma I Made It
Kid Rock - All Summer Long
Hinder - Lips of an Angel 
Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmas Song
Train - Hey Soul Sister
Jet - Are You Gonna Be My Girl
Milky Chance - Stolen Dance
American Authors - The Best Day of My Life
Lumineers - Hey Ho
fun. - We Are Young
Colbie Calliet - Bubbly
Edward Sharpe - Home
Ima Robot - Dynomite
Imagine Dragon - Radioactive

#61 BAD SONGS!

And introducing, on the ones and twos, it’s RICK RUBIN. One of the superstar producers of the last forty years, Rubin went from Long Island punk to hip-hop pioneer in the 80’s, founding Def Jam Records out of his dorm room with Russell Simmons. He’d go on to produce some of the top recording artists of his era, ranging from Beastie Boys to Neil Diamond, LL Kool J to Metallica, and co-head Columbia Records. And today we’re joined by producer Jesse Cannon to learn all about Rubin from the book “Rick Rubin in the Studio” by Jake Brown

Check out Jesse’s YouTube channel and other work here:
www.Musformation.com
www.Jessecannon.com

SONGS IN ORDER:
T La Rock & Jazzy Jay - It’s Yours
LL Cool J - I Need A Beat
Beastie Boys - Rhymin & Stealin
Public Enemy - Don’t Believe the Hype
Slayer - Raining Blood
Danzig - Mother
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Suck My Kiss
The Chicks - Lubbock of Leave It
The Chicks - Gaslighter
Lady Gaga - Dope

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