Steve and Katie talk with their colleague Tom Kline about his client, the Massachusetts Charitable Mechanic Association (MCMA), and its decades-long quest to reclaim the dramatic marble statue The Wounded Indian by Peter Stephenson, modeled after the Roman sculpture The Dying Gaul. MCMA was founded by Paul Revere in 1795 and was gifted the statue in 1893. After vacating its storied headquarters in 1958, MCMA was told the statute had been destroyed. Only in 2023 did it get the statue back. &nbsp; Notes for this episode:  &nbsp; Follow the Art Law Podcast Instagram:  TikTok:

Returning "The Wounded Indian" Statue to Massachusetts

Katie and Steve talk with renowned art lawyer Pierre Valentin about the EU’s new and striking import regulations on cultural goods, including fine art and cultural property, that prohibit the import of applicable items not created in the EU into the EU if they cannot be shown to have been legally exported from their countries of origin. We discuss the impetus for these regulations, the problem with discerning ownership and export history of cultural property, and the key problems with the new regulation’s successful implementation and enforcement. &nbsp; Notes for this episode:  &nbsp; Follow the Art Law Podcast Instagram:  TikTok:

New Hurdles to Importing Art in the EU

Steve and Katie take a look at the many developments around generative AI and fine art, including debates and litigation on copyrightability and infringement as well as the policy concerns surrounding increased use of generative AI to create artworks. &nbsp; Notes for this episode:  &nbsp; Follow the Art Law Podcast Instagram:  TikTok:

2023 AI and Art Wrap Up

Katie and Steve discuss three recent litigation updates. They discuss the outcome of the trial in the case brought by Dmitry Rybolovlev against Sotheby’s for aiding in the alleged fraud of Yves Bouvier, the most recent Richard Prince fair use copyright infringement cases brought by two photographers, and the Ninth Circuit decision applying Spanish law to deny return of a Pissarro painting to the family of Lily Cassirer, whose property was looted by the Nazis and is currently located in a Spanish museum. &nbsp; Notes for this episode:  &nbsp; Follow the Art Law Podcast Instagram:&nbsp; TikTok:&nbsp;

Art Law Litigation Updates: Fraud, Fair Use, and Nazi Looting

Katie and Steve take a deep dive into the history and current status of the Parthenon Marbles with Alexander Herman, director of the Institute of Art and Law in London and author of the recent book&nbsp;The Parthenon Marbles Dispute: Heritage, Law, Politics. &nbsp; Notes for this episode:  &nbsp; Follow the Art Law Podcast Instagram:&nbsp; TikTok:&nbsp;

The Parthenon Marbles Dispute

Katie and Steve speak with colleague Eden Burgess about the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA), its history, purpose, and requirements to repatriate cultural property and human remains to Native American tribes and Native Hawaiian Organizations, as well as new regulations that are leading major museums to remove or close exhibitions of Native American and Hawaiian objects while taking action to implement NAGPRA in consultation with tribes that have ownership claims. &nbsp; Notes for this episode:  &nbsp; Follow the Art Law Podcast Instagram:&nbsp; TikTok:&nbsp;

The Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act Gets Some Teeth

Steve and Katie talk with their colleague, Tom Kline, about the Nazi’s program of remaking European culture, the enormous theft and displacement of art that occurred as part of that program, and the efforts of the heirs of Jews displaced during World War II to reclaim art and cultural property. The discussion focuses on the Washington Principles, the updated best practices issued upon their 25th anniversary, and how claims for restitution have changed over this time. &nbsp; Notes for this episode:  &nbsp; Follow the Art Law Podcast Instagram:&nbsp; TikTok:&nbsp;

The 25th Anniversary of the Washington Conference Principles and Where We are on Nazi-Looted Art

Steve and Katie speak with Italian lawyer Giuseppe Calabri and art historian Sharon Hecker about Italy’s cultural patrimony laws granting state institutions control over the use of images of cultural property long in the public domain. They discuss the legal, ethical, and practical issues with such laws and their specific application to uses of the Vitruvian Man&nbsp;by Leonardo da Vinci located at the&nbsp;Gallerie dell'Accademia in&nbsp;Venice and the statue of&nbsp;David by Michelangelo located at the&nbsp;Gallerie dell'Accademia&nbsp;in Florence. &nbsp; Notes for this episode:  &nbsp; Follow the Art Law Podcast Instagram:&nbsp; TikTok:&nbsp;

Italy’s Expansive Control Over Cultural Heritage

Steve and Katie discuss several art law topics in this end-of-season episode. They talk about internal thefts at the British Museum, the ongoing Victorious Youth litigation between Italy and the Getty Trust, the Damien Hirst backdating scandals, the litigation between the Manhattan DA and the Art Institute of Chicago, and the recent litigation between the Donald Judd Foundation and Kim Kardashian. End-of-season message from Steve and Katie: Thank you to all of our listeners for your support, and we look forward to bringing you season 8 in September! &nbsp; Notes for this episode:  &nbsp; Follow the Art Law Podcast Instagram:&nbsp; TikTok:&nbsp;

Season End Art Law Roundup

Steve and Katie speak with two preeminent French art lawyers, Anne-Sophie Nardon and Olivier de Baecque, about disputes surrounding the authenticity of art and how French and US courts get involved in these disputes. Because many of the world’s greatest artists made their home in France, many of the experts on these artists and their work are in France, and French courts have long adjudicated disputes about the accuracy of opinions made by experts regarding authenticity. &nbsp; Notes for this episode:  &nbsp; Follow the Art Law Podcast Instagram:&nbsp; TikTok:&nbsp; Katie and Steve discuss topics based on news and magazine articles and court filings and not based on original research unless specifically noted.

France v. USA: Legal Remedies for Authentication Disputes

Steve and Katie discuss the Nazis’ complicated and perverse relationship with fine art with attorney and author Nicholas O’Donnell.&nbsp; Nick is the author of the recent book,&nbsp;A Tragic Fate: Law Ethics in the Battle Over Nazi-Looted Art, which tells the story of stolen and appropriated art in World War II Europe and how the U.S. legal system has been instrumental in dealing with claims for restitution decades later.&nbsp; Steve, Katie and Nick start with the historical landscape in 1930s Europe, and discuss some the most contentious and ongoing disputes.  Resources: https://www.sandw.com/professionals-Nicholas-ODonnell.html  https://www.amazon.com/Tragic-Fate-Ethics-Battle-Nazi-Looted/dp/1634257332  https://www.amazon.com/Rape-Europa-Europes-Treasures-Second/dp/0679756868 https://www.state.gov/p/eur/rt/hlcst/270431.htm  https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/31/arts/design/the-story-behind-woman-in-gold-nazi-art-thieves-and-one-paintings-return.html  https://www.theartnewspaper.com/analysis/cranach-s-adam-and-eve-timeline-of-a-decade-long-legal-battle  https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/true-story-monuments-men-180949569/  Episode Transcription Steve Schindler: Hi, I’m Steve Schindler. Katie Wilson-Milne: I’m Katie Wilson-Milne. Steve Schindler: Welcome to the Art Law Podcast, a monthly podcast exploring the places where art intersects with and interferes with the law. Katie Wilson-Milne: And vice versa. The Art Law Podcast is sponsored by the law firm of Schindler Cohen &amp; Hochman LLP, a premier litigation and art law boutique in New York City. Steve Schindler: Welcome back, everybody, to the second season of the Art Law Podcast. We’re very excited about the new season and looking forward to sharing many new topics in art law and for our episode this season, we’re going to be discussing what is a very important topic and one that we have waited to get to. It’s the topic of Nazi-looted Art and really the legal history of our collective attempts to identify and recover that art after the Second World War. We’re lucky to have with us today, an author and lawyer, Nick O’Donnell, who has just written a fantastic book on the subject and we’re going to spend a little longer than we normally do talking with Nick because the topic is so important. We’re going to beg your indulgence to stick with us a little bit longer than we normally take. Katie Wilson-Milne: The Nazis in establishing The Third Reich in perpetrating the Holocaust were not just interested in purging their territory of non-aryan peoples but also purging it of non-aryan culture. And also appropriating by coercion or outright theft, the personal property of non-aryan, namely Jewish people. To this end, the Nazis looted directly or indirectly in an immense amount of valuable and important art. So much in fact and so devastating was the displacement and violence of the Holocaust, that efforts to reclaim Nazi-looted art for rightful heirs is a contemporary story and one is still working its way through the courts around the world, including in the United States. Steve Schindler: We have with us today our friend and fellow art lawyer Nicholas O’ Donnell who has worked on some of the significant Nazi-looted art cases that we’re going to talk about and who has recently written an excellent book entitled, “A Tragic Fate: Law and Ethics in the Battle Over Nazi-Looted Art,” which details the history of Nazi-looted art and the legal battles that ensued in the post-war era, including today. Nick is a partner in the law firm of Sullivan &amp; Worcester, and his practice focuses on complex litigation in art and museum law, with particular experience in the German speaking world. He’s also the editor of the Art Law Report, a terrific blog that provides timely updates and commentary on legal issues on the museum and visual arts communities. Thank you for being here today, Nick, to discuss your book. Nicholas O’Donnell: Thank you for having...

Nazi Looted Art: Legal Remedies and Limitations

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