This podcast features a talk given by Farhad Dalal at the 2010 BAATN Men's conference in London. Farhad is a psychotherapist, supervisor and group analyst and has published widely on forming an understanding of some of the causes of hatred of others in general and racism in particular. His recent publication 'Thought Paralysis - The virtues of discrimination' continues that understanding. In this talk Farhad critiques the diversity movement and explores what makes organisations take up diversity policies so readily but not take up say anti racism, and how the themes of the diversity movement bring with them a kind of thought paralysis and a reliance on tick boxes and procedures. 

Thought Paralysis - the virtues of discrimination (Karnac book Nov 2011) http://www.dalal.org.uk/thoughtparalysis/

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A critique of the diversity movement - Farhad Dalal - Episode 1

This podcast features a talk given by Elaine Arnold at the 2010 BAATN conference in London. Elaine Arnold has worked with black families in various contexts for many years as a social worker specialising in Psychiatric Social Work and Child Guidance, as Director of Training at Nafsiyat, as a member of Action For Children's Black Families Adoption Panel and in 1999 founded the Separation Reunion Forum which aims to raise awareness of the effects of broken attachments, separation and loss on Caribbean people. Her talk looks at some of the policies that mitigated against Caribbean people when they immigrated to the UK, how the effects of broken attachments and loss continue to impact these families and how work based on attachment theory while working with black families very often has positive outcomes. 

Separation and Reunion Forum www.serefo.org.uk 

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Attachment theory and working with black families

Attachment theory and working with black families - Elaine Arnold - Episode 2

This podcast features a talk given by Fakrhy Davids at the 2010 BAATN conference in London. Fakrhy Davids is a psychoanalyst working in London. He lived in South Africa under apartide where he was a Lecturer in Psychology at the University of Cape Town. He has written and taught widely on the psychology of racism and has recently published a book called Internal Racism: A Psychoanalytic Approach to Race and Difference. Fakrhy lays out very engagingly and thoughtfully how internal racism works from both sides of the black white divide. 

Fakrhy Davids book: Internal Racism: A Psychoanalytic Approach to Race and Difference - Publication Date: 21 Jun 2011 | Series: The Palgrave Psychotherapy Series 

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A Psychoanalytic Approach to Race and Difference

A Psychoanalytic Approach to Race and Difference - Fakrhy Davids - Episode 3

Transcending Intergenerational Trauma Dr Aileen Alleyne is a Psychotherapist and Clinical Supervisor in private practice in East Sussex and also consults to organisations on issues of difference and diversity in the workplace and education.  Aileen is the author of several book chapters and journal papers exploring themes on black/white dynamics, and the ubiquitous emotion of shame ever present in black identity wounding. Aileen talks about the work of transcending intergenerational trauma and introduces us to a model she has developed which acts as a guide towards the emergence of the true self.  

Image of Portia Simpson Miller (prime minister of Jamaica) and Harry hugging http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/_NZrEXWGGEQ/Prince+Harry+Tours+Jamaica+Mark+Queen+Elizabeth/GXzk6YIFrm- 

Cycle of events model as described in this episode download: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kq1w3e0qb-Q/maxresdefault.jpg 

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Transcending Intergenerational Trauma

Transcending Intergenerational Trauma - Dr Aileen Alleyne - Episode 4

Narendra Keval is a therapist, supervisor and trainer and currently based at the centre for psychoanalytical studies at the University of Essex. Narendra uses a Object Relations frame work to articulate What happens to the collective curiosity of the therapy profession around the area of race? what is the nature of racial trauma? and what are the therapeutic tasks when working with clients in this area?

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What happens to the collective curiosity of the therapy profession around the area of race?

What happens to collective curiosity of the therapy profession around race - Narendra Keval - Ep 5

Towards Bicultural Competence - beyond black and white. This weeks podcast features a talk given by Gloria Gordon who is a lecturer at Southbank University, founder of the Centre for British African-Caribbean Studies and author of 'Towards Bicultural Competence - Beyond Black and White'. Gloria Gordon's talk is about her psychological journey and her educational enquiry towards becoming more fully human. She has interesting things to say about the term 'Black Culture' and calls herself British African Caribbean which describes that she has been influenced and shaped by these cultures. At the beginning of her working life Gloria did everything to fit in, she had all the qualifications, and still she was struggling with what it means to be black. So started her journey. 

Centre for British African-Caribbean Studies - http://www.cbacs.org/ Towards Bicultural Competence - Beyond Black and White, G Gordon, 2007, Trentham Books Ltd

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Towards Bicultural Competence - beyond black and white

Towards Bicultural Competence - beyond black and white - Gloria Gordon - Episode 6

In this podcast counsellor, trainer and consultant Luke Daniels speaks passionately and knowledgeably about working with perpetrators of domestic violence. Whilst doing his work with men he has found three common themes they all share which are that these men have been hurt themselves, either physically or emotionally, that sexism is strong in their lives and that they want to be in charge of women. All three of these themes being the legacy of how they were parented during their early lives. With this in mind he encourages us to bring up our own children without violence. 

Pulling the Punches - Defeating domestic violence: L Daniels 2009: Bogle-L’Ouverture Press http://www.pullingthepunches.com 

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Defeating domestic violence - Luke Daniels - Episode 7

This edition of the podcast features a talk given by Psychotherapist Valarie Watson who has a personal and particular interest in ethnicity race and culture as it relates to the counselling relationship. Valarie Watson will talk about the role of the black expert which is a way of thinking about how in certain situations black people are put in the role of being experts in themselves or required to give the defining view on what it means to be black. Valarie is using the context of counselling to explore the impact of the black expert, and the ways in which her role as a catalyst can offer challenges and a learning opportunity for all. 

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The Black Expert as catalyst

The Black Expert as catalyst - Valarie Watson - Episode 8

This months podcast features a conversation with by Dwight Turner, psychotherapist, staff member of the Centre for Counselling and Psychotherapy Education in London and writer on the topics such as 'An Afro-Caribbean perspective on intimacy', 'a personal perspective on the on how the absent father hinders the growth of black men in the new millennium' and 'exploring the link between music and one's life process'. 

Dwight's writing is available on www.baatn.org.uk and find the link to the Knowledge base articles

An Afro-Caribbean perspective on intimacy

An Afro-Caribbean perspective on intimacy - Dwight turner - Episode 9

This edition of the podcast features a conversation with Dr Isha Mckenzie-Mavinga who is an Integrative Transcultural Psychotherapist, Reiki practitioner, trainer, and supervisor. She is also author of ‘Black Issues in the Therapeutic Process’ and ‘In Search of Mr Mckenzie’. She gives us a very intimate and personal narrative of her life as a child in care and her life as a young woman fighting to keep her baby from adoption and from having the life she had in care. She then goes on to talk about her experience of finding her voice during her training as a counsellor and later when she became the trainer coming to the realisation that white people hurt too in this space. She also talks about her book, which is about the process of dialogue around black issues as well as her future projects.

Black issues in the Therapeutic Process

Black issues in the Therapeutic Process - Dr Isha Mckenzie-Mavinga - Episode 10

This podcast features Sanjay Jobanputra who is a Senior Lecturer in psychology at the University of Westminster. He has worked in a number of community-based projects as a Asian Drug Worker, Alcohol Advisory Worker and HIV/AIDS Social Worker. Within the context of identity politics and developing a voice in this area his PhD explored the experiences of black and minority ethnic students studying psychology in higher education. His research continued for over twenty years and contributed to changes in the content of psychology course currently taught in his university. 

Book: Educational Diversity The Subject of Difference and Different Subjects Edited by Yvette Taylor chapter: Mapping Exclusion in Undergraduate Psychology: Towards a Common Architecture of the Minority Student Experience; I.Hodges & S.Jobanputra Palgrave Macmillan Sep 2012 Website: www.westminster.ac.uk

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The experiences of BME students studying psychology in higher education

The experiences of BME students studying psychology in higher education - Sanjay Jobanputra - Ep 11

In this podcast I'm speaking with poppy Banerjee. Poppy Banerjee has been practicing as a counsellor/psychotherapist since 1994 and has been trained in person-centred/existential therapies and has substantial experience of working with Asian women and girls. In 1995 Poppy initiated and developed a Pan-London forum for Asian counsellors and professionals working in the mental health field called the Asian Mental Health Forum. Poppy has been involved as a consultant with various voluntary and statutory organisations developing services that are focusing on domestic violence, forced marriage, self harm and any other social issues affecting the community. Poppy is also an associate member of BAATN (Black and Asian Therapist Network) and currently facilitating students support groups focusing on race and culture.

Promoting Counselling in the Asian Community - Poppy Banerjee - Episode 12

This podcast features Jackee Holder who spoke at the 2013 BAATN conference on the theme of Leadership, purpose and self care. Jackee is a trainer, intuitive facilitator, executive business coach, speaker and author of three books, Soul Purpose, Be Your Own Best Life Coach and 49 Ways To Write Yourself Well. She believes wholeheartedly in creative expression and self care for those working in the helping and caring professions and in her talk she inspires us to develop more moments in the day when we can feed our creativity and feed our self care.

Leadership, purpose and self care

Leadership, purpose and self care - Jackee Holder - Episode 13

In this podcast I'm speaking with a black therapist, Kris Black and a white therapist and trainer, Celia Levy about their experience of supplementing their previous psychotherapy training training with learning concepts and ideas that support their empathic approach to their black and Asian clients and students. My guests will also be talking about the challenges and rewards of undertaking this important journey.

Beyond silence - Black issues in the therapeutic process - pt 1

Beyond silence - Black issues in the therapeutic process - pt 1 - Episode 14

This podcast is a continuing conversation from the previous podcast. I'm speaking with black therapist and trainer, Patmarie Coleman and white therapist and trainer, Niki Cooper about their experience of supplementing their previous psychotherapy training with learning concepts and ideas that support their empathic approach to their black and Asian trainees. My guests will also be talking about the challenges and rewards of undertaking this important journey. 

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Beyond silence - Black issues in the therapeutic process - pt 2

Beyond silence - Black issues in the therapeutic process - pt 2 - Episode 15

In this podcast I’m presenting a talk given at the 2014 BAATN Conference by Zenobia Nadirshaw. Zenobia is a Consultant Clinical Psychologist and has been in the world of Psychology for 38 years. She is very active in the field of Psychology, Counselling, Psychotherapy and ​Ethnic Minority and disability issues - including training of and supervision of psychologists and counsellors. She also lectures at national and international level and has published widely on these issues In her talk she explores organisational change in the light of our diversity culture. Along the way she articulates the difference between the Diversity agenda and Equal Opportunities, explores what valuing Diversity means in practice, and also enters into the sometimes tension filled area of the white supervisor and black supervisee relationship. 

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Therapeutic practice in a multicultural society

Therapeutic practice in a multicultural society - Zenobia Nadirshaw - Episode 16

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In this podcast I’m presenting a talk given at the 2014 BAATN Conference by Dennis Carney Dennis has been running courses around equality and diversity for the last 24 years with a focus on Black Gay and Bisexual men. He was the chair of the Black lesbian and Gay project back in the 80’s which was, and still is, the only Black Gay and Lesbian Centre in the history of the world. He also appeared in the recent Channel 4 documentary ‘Reggae, Trainers & Olympics which explored the role of dancehall music and homophobia and was also an official spokesperson for the Stop Murder Music Campaign. In his talk he looks at homophobia and it's effects on the LGBT community and also the heterosexual community which is often the part of the community that gets ignored when looking at homophobia. He also looks at the effects of homophobia on Black and Asian LGBT communities. He brings our attention to the consensus statement on reparative therapy treatments put forward by the UK Council for Psychotherapy, The British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy, The British Psychological Society, The Royal College of Psychiatrists. Dennis invites us to find ways to challenge homophobia and assess our responsibility in this in terms of the personal and the political.

Challenging Homophobia in The Therapy Room

Challenging Homophobia in The Therapy Room - Dennis Carney - Episode 17

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There are many conversations happening about the psychological impact of racial bias and identity within the field of psychotherapy. There is however still much to do, as the worry about the race conversation is ever present. This episode of the 'Black and Asian Therapist Podcast' reflects on the experiences of BME students on Euro-American therapy training courses. The podcast also explores how therapy-training organisations might be supported to better facilitate these students to both explore their racial identity whilst they train and still get through the training programme. 

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Creating partnerships with training organisations: Let's talk about race

Creating partnerships with training organisations: Let's talk about race - Episode 18

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In this podcast I'm in conversation with therapists Bea Millar and Suzanne Keys who sent out an invitation to other white therapists for a gathering entitled 'Examining Whiteness, White Identity and Racism. They decided to offer this workshop because they realised that the unexamined thoughts and feelings about being white in a racist society creates obstacles to open and healing dialogues with people of colour and is slowing down the process of ending racism. They believe that white people need to take responsibility for working through these feelings with each other, in order to bring themselves more fully into relationship with people of colour and get on with the work of eliminating racism. We will be talking about their personal process in getting to the point of making this group a reality as well as the responses they received from others along the way.

Examining Whiteness - Reflect on being white in a racist society

Examining Whiteness - Challenges of processing being white therapists in a racist society - Ep 19

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Dr Isha Mckenzie-Mavinga presents the first of these 5 BAATN Spring seminars. She talks about working with the hidden and voiced impact of racism in therapeutic relationships especially in supervision and touched on important themes in her book that relate to working in this area. Her book is called ‘The Challenge of Racism in Therapeutic Practice’.

If you want to know more about Dr Mckenzie-Mavinga’s concepts around engaging with oppression - in practice and supervision - she is running a training in London on the 2nd and 3rd of June 2018. Find out more and book here:  www.baatn.org.uk/the-challenge-of-racism/

The Challenge of Racism in Therapeutic Practice

Spring Seminar 2018 - The Challenge of Racism in Therapeutic Practice - Dr Mckenzie-Mavinga - Ep 20

Ncazelo Ncube-Mlilo, co-developer of a narrative therapeutic approach called the Tree of Life gives the 2nd of 5 BAATN Spring Seminars. This model of intervention supports those who have experienced significant hardship and trauma and also speaks to people across cultures. Ncazelo invites us to break free from problem saturated identities.

he Tree of Life - Ncazelo Ncube-Mlilo

Spring Seminar 2018 - The Tree of Life - Ncazelo Ncube-Mlilo - Episode 21

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Sonya Welch-Moring presents the 3rd of 5 BAATN Spring seminars. She gives us an overview of Family, Community and systemic Constellations which is a combination of western and African approaches and is described by Sonya as a healing ritual with a therapeutic edge.

Sonya Welch-Moring is running a days workshop on the 29th Sept 2018 in London. Find out more and book here: www.baatn.org.uk/family-and-community-constellations/

Family, Community and systemic Constellations - Sonya Welch-Moring

Spring Seminar 2018 - Family, Community and systemic Constellations - Sonya Welch-Moring - Ep 22

These podcasts are for anyone who is interested in the psychological impact of race on people of colour from a UK Perspective. They feature prominent Black, African and Asian therapists and allies sharing their thinking and psychological concepts.

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