In this first episode of the podcast Crisis to Creation, The Most Rev'd Colin Johnson discusses the concepts and potentials of adaptive leadership in ministry during the global pandemic and beyond. 

Quotes from the interview: 

"Adaptive leadership is bringing people together, working on a tough problem, and coming out the other end thriving—probably in new ways than they had before." Colin Johnson

"Part of the role of an adaptive leader is to remind people of the things that remain constant." Colin Johnson

"The church will continue to be God’s agent of mission in the world even if it looks different." Colin Johnson

"We’re not called to go back after these events; we’re called to go forward in a different way. And we need to think about them in different ways. And the adaptive leader helps frame appropriate questions for the community to wrestle with." Colin Johnson

This interview was recorded as part of a course on leadership sponsored by the Innovative Ministry Centre, a project of the Toronto United Church Council. 

Recorded in April 2020
Interviewer and host Rev. Tay Moss 
Produced by Dr. Betsy Moss
Thanks to the Toronto United Church Council for their support.

01 Colin Johnson on Adaptive Leadership, June 2020

In this second episode of the podcast Crisis to Creation, the Revs Terence and Jasmine Chandra discuss their urban ministry in St. John, New Brunswick

Quotes from the interview: 

“We thought, wouldn’t it be great if there were a couple of Anglican priests set free to do ministry in the urban core of the city that weren’t necessarily responsible for a parish?” Terence Chandra 

“It takes relationship and it takes Jesus Christ to really make a difference in people’s lives.” Jasmine Chandra 

“I really feel like it’s a community faith, it’s something that we do together, that my relationship with Jesus is significant and important because of all the people around us who are journeying with us.” Jasmine Chandra 

“You can do innovative ministry supported by the church, yes, but outside the walls of the church in the community funded in a creative way—I wasn’t aware of that when I was in seminary. But just having experienced it now, I’m aware that it’s not only very fulfilling but it’s doable. To use the cliché: think outside of the box in terms of what possible in ministry.” Terence Chandra 

“We had someone… he used to be the director of Vineyard Canada, Gary Best… pray with us and prophesy, and he said that this is in the early years of our ministry, and he said you’ll really see fruit from your ministry in fifteen years. And at the time – whaaaa? Fifteen years, it sounded crazy but now we kind of see what he was talking about. This is slow work.” Jasmine Chandra 

This interview was recorded as part of a course on leadership sponsored by the Innovative Ministry Centre, a project of the Toronto United Church Council. 

Recorded on August 14, 2020
Interviewer and host Rev. Tay Moss 
Produced by Dr. Betsy Moss
Thanks to the Toronto United Church Council for their support.

Betsy Moss

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