Jessica Benjamin joins host John Totten for our season finale. In a wide-ranging conversation [outlined below], the renowned psychoanalyst and theorist reflects on her radical upbringing, the development of recognition theory, and the feminist lens through which she examines our persistent social dilemmas. Why does more civilization seem to generate more problems? Dr. Benjamin’s answer diverges from Freud’s, and her concept of repair exposes how often conformity is entangled with domination. From mundane conventions like parenting roles to the horrors of war and genocide, her concepts illuminate pathways of transformation through multiplicity, challenging the belief that “only one can live.” She proposes that feminism offers a way forward in the clinic and society: a chance to move beyond rigid binaries into “The Third”- a space of mutual recognition, but only if we are first willing to confront the ways we’ve been getting it wrong. 

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1. Biography and Early Curiosities - 13:21
2. Formation of Recognition Theory- 20:25
3. Feminism and Family Roles- 27:30 
4. Oedipus and Gender Binaries- 30:54
5. Reversal and Bourgeois Feminism- 37:42
6. Response to Critiques-42:44
7. Clinical Vignettes of Recognition- 48:35
8. Crossing the Bridge of Difference-54:25
9. The Third, Breakdown, and Repair- 56:05
10. Survivalism and Conflict Resolution- 66:30
11. Infant Studies and Acknowledgement- 74:14
12. Destruction and Play-79:30 
13. Escalation and Unconscious Guilt- 86:54
14. Capitalism and Supremacy- 91:00
16. Hope- 99:30 

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Produced by John Totten and Mason Neely
Music by Mason Neely
Research Assistant: Rose Bergdoll
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Episode 60: Recognition, In Real Life

Dr. Galit Atlas joins us for the finale of Season Two. Her new book, The Enigma of Desire: Sex, Longing, and Belonging in Psychoanalysis, is a comprehensive study of sexuality and desire through her unique dual lenses of pragmatism and enigma. A renowned psychoanalyst, professor, and contributor to the New York Times, Dr. Atlas spoke with our host, John Totten, about the process of writing the book, some of her cases, and what happens when arousal enters a treatment.

Season Two of Between Us has been sponsored by MetaFi, a free download on iOS and Android. 

This conversation with Dr. Galit Atlas was sponsored by the Center for Object Relations at http://www.nwfdc.org/

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