Name: 181. Say My CNAME, Say My CNAME by Breaking Badness
Duration: 44 min 4 s
Description: Episode 181 of Breaking Badness is here! This week Kali Fencl, Tim Helming, and Taylor Wilkes-Pierce discuss CISA’s caution against a hacked VPN getaway along with Guardio Security’s discovery of a large subdomain hacking campaign.

Episode 181 of Breaking Badness is here! This week Kali Fencl, Tim Helming, and Taylor Wilkes-Pierce discuss CISA’s caution against a hacked VPN getaway along with Guardio Security’s discovery of a large subdomain hacking campaign.

181. Say My CNAME, Say My CNAME

In this episode of Breaking Badness, the crew investigates two escalating threats in the cybercrime ecosystem: the cleverly named phishing-as-a-service platform Morphing Meerkat, and the bulletproof hosting provider Proton66, a favorite among amateur cybercriminals.

First, they dig into how Morphing Meerkat uses DNS-over-HTTPS (DoH) and clever phishing kits to evade detection. Then, they shift focus to Proton66, a Russian-based bulletproof host that shelters a new generation of low-skill attackers, including a threat actor known as "Coquettte" with ties to the Horrid Hacking group.

Inside Morphing Meerkat and Proton66: How Cybercrime Is Getting Easier

In this episode of Breaking Badness, we sit down with John Donovan of ZEDEDA to unpack the
lighter and more profound sides of cybersecurity’s biggest gatherings. From RSA’s unexpected
baby goats and vendor booth antics to BSides San Francisco’s community-driven keynote
stage, John shares personal stories, industry insights, and valuable advice on how newcomers
and veterans alike can navigate events like RSA, BSides, and DEF CON. You’ll hear how he
"hacked" his way onto the main stage, what it means to wear a “No Purchasing Authority” pin,
and why protecting your mom from scams might be more urgent than defending your enterprise.

Hacking the Stage: John Donovan on RSAC, BSides SF, and the Human Side of Cybersecurity

In this episode of Breaking Badness, Kali Fencl sits down with Mick Baccio, Global Security
Advisor at Splunk and former CISO for Pete Buttigieg’s 2020 presidential campaign. Mick
shares his journey from aspiring Navy nuclear engineer to leading security in some of the
highest-stakes environments, including the White House.

They explore how threat intelligence, storytelling, and mentorship shape the future of
cybersecurity. From his early days in government to his work on the Splunk SURGe team, Mick
opens up about what it takes to build secure systems, stronger teams, and more empathetic
leadership in cybersecurity.

Building Secure Campaigns and Better Humans: A Conversation with Mick Baccio

In this episode of Breaking Badness, we sit down with Raji Vannianathan, a cybersecurity leader at Microsoft driving the charge on AI security and safety. Raji shares her experience leading the team responsible for managing the end-to-end lifecycle of AI vulnerability disclosures, building proactive safety frameworks, and cultivating a global community of AI security researchers.

From developing Microsoft's AI Bug Bar to launching the "Guardians of AI Safety" Discord
community, she brings both vision and practical strategies to a rapidly evolving field.
We discuss the shifting threat landscape as threat actors begin to leverage generative AI, the
critical need for shared language and cross-functional collaboration, and how Microsoft is
thinking about trust, transparency, and incident response in the AI era. If you’re navigating the
challenges of AI risk, vulnerability coordination, or ethical deployment, this is an essential listen.

It Takes a Village to Secure AI

Welcome to a special RSAC 2025 episode of the Breaking Badness Cybersecurity Podcast!

Today, we delve into the critical role of domains in modern cyber attacks. From sophisticated nation-state operations to AI-powered phishing kits and malicious browser extensions, domains are the foundational infrastructure for threat actors. 

Host Kali Fencl is joined by four leading cybersecurity experts Joe Slowik, Robert Duncan, John Fokker and Vivek Ramachandran to
break down how domains are weaponized and what organizations can do to defend themselves on this ever-evolving frontline

Beyond the Perimeter: How Attackers Use Domains, Phishing & AI and How to Fight Back

In this RSA Conference 2025 special episode, we explore two critical frontiers shaping the
future of cybersecurity.

First, Jon DiMaggio (Author of The Ransomware Diaries, Analyst1) breaks down the hidden
supply chains behind ransomware gangs, including the economics of affiliate betrayal and the
challenge of accurate attribution. He walks us through his methodology for identifying
ransomware rebrands like BlackCat and RansomHub using evidence-based frameworks
designed to eliminate human bias.

Then we’re joined by Matt Radolec (VP of Incident Response at Varonis), who brings a fresh
perspective on talent development in cybersecurity. Drawing from his keynote "From Gamer to
Leader", Matt argues that gamers possess untapped potential as cybersecurity professionals
and it’s time to design leadership pipelines like quest lines.

From ransomware negotiations on underground forums to using AI-enhanced playbooks and
transforming threat response teams into RPG-style guilds, this episode blends technical insight
with cultural reflection.

Inside Ransomware’s Supply Chain: Attribution, Rebrands, and Affiliate Betrayal

In this RSA Conference 2025 special episode, we dive into the evolving world of cyber
attribution, AI-powered threat tactics, and real-world incident response in AWS and GCP
environments.

Our guests include:
● Tal Darsan and Etay Maor from Cato Networks, discussing stealthy attacker techniques,
AI-powered evasion, and lessons from ransomware groups like Medusa, Play, and
Hunters International.

● Yonaten Khen from Hunters, who walks us through how his team discovered a privilege
escalation vulnerability in Google Workspace and what it reveals about modern cloud
attacks.

Zero-Knowledge Threats, Shadow AI, and the Future of Cyber Attribution

Exposing Your Attack Surface on Purpose: API Chaos, AI Risk, and Quantum Reality

In this episode of Breaking Badness, Kali Fencl sits down with Audra Streetman, a former journalist turned threat intelligence analyst at Splunk. Audra shares her journey from local newsrooms to the frontlines of cybersecurity, detailing how her storytelling skills translate directly into threat research.

Audra walks us through how ransomware attacks like JBS Foods and the Excellion breach sparked her pivot into cyber. She dives deep into persistent threat tactics, such as file transfer appliance exploitation, the growing risk of cloud infrastructure attacks, and North Korean IT worker scams.

If you're a cybersecurity professional, a curious career switcher, or someone looking to stay ahead of threat actor trends, this episode delivers real insight with practical relevance.

From Newsroom to Threat Room: Audra Streetman’s Journey into Cybersecurity

In this episode, DomainTools' Daniel Schwalbe is joined by Renee Burton (Infoblox), Raymond Dijkxhoorn (Surbl), and Peter Lowe (FIRST.org) to unpack the inaugural DomainTools Intelligence Report and what it reveals about DNS-based threats in 2024. The panel digs into evolving detection challenges, the pitfalls of domain scoring, the growing complexity of threat actor behavior, and why industry collaboration continues to lag.

They explore topics like aging domains, TLD abuse, data sharing barriers, and the creative lengths bad actors go to avoid detection. Whether you're building threat intel tools or blocking domains at the edge, this conversation is a must-listen for anyone in DNS-based security.

Why DNS Is Still the Biggest Blind Spot in Threat Intelligence

Where timely and relevant security meets puns and witty banter. Our goal is to keep defenders apprised of pertinent news and trends in under forty-five minutes.

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