A podcast of casual conversation about topical issues in international law, life in academia and whatever else is on our mind. Hosted by Douglas Guilfoyle and featuring Juliette McIntyre. In this episode we discuss South Africa v Israel at the International Court of Justice and the International Criminal Court Prosecutor seeking arrest warrants for senior Hamas and Israeli leaders.

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait.

Called to the Bar: International Law over Drink

1. That dammed comma, and what is complementarity?

Strong language alert! In Episode 2 Tamsin Philippa Paige and Douglas Guilfoyle discuss why Russia is still on the Security Council and whether a Security Council veto can be circumvented, alongside reports that an ex-Mossad chief attempted to intimidate an International Criminal Court Prosecutor. In this episode, Douglas and Tamsin drink tea.

Called to the Bar

2. Security Council shenanigans and shirt-fronting the ICC Prosecutor

A podcast of informal conversation about topical issues in international law, life in academia and whatever else is on our mind.

In this episode Douglas Guilfoyle and Ntina Tzouvala discuss the concept of genocide committed by inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about a group's destruction and the question of Palestinian statehood. (Spoiler: it's a state.) 

Ntina's reading recommendation: Noura Erakat, Justice for Some: Law and the Question of Palestine (Stanford 2019)

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait.

3. Debating structures of genocide and Palestinian statehood

A podcast of informal conversation about topical issues in international law, life in academia and whatever else is on our mind.

In this episode Douglas Guilfoyle and Imogen Saunders discuss small island states' campaign for climate justice through seeking advisory opinions from international courts and tribunals, including the International Court of Justice and the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea.

Imogen's reading recommendations: 

Documents in the ICJ request for an advisory opinion on climate change: https://www.icj-cij.org/case/187/request-advisory-opinion

Cynthia Houniuhi, "Why I’m leading Pacific Islands students in the fight on climate change": https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-01751-1

Melbourne Journal of International Law special issue on international courts: https://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/MelbJIL/2021/

Imogen Saunders, General Principles as a Source of International Law: https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/general-principles-as-a-source-of-international-law-9781509936083/

The "Marry me Juliette" Trilogy: https://jodimcalister.com.au/book-series/marry-me-juliet/

Music: Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait.

4. International courts and climate change

In this episode, Douglas Guilfoyle and Tamsin Phillipa Paige discuss the international law applicable to the use by Houthi insurgents of remotely pirated drone boats to attack merchant shipping in the Red Sea. It gets pretty geeky!

Tamsin's recommendations:

Austen Turk, Sociology of Terrorism (2004) https://www.annualreviews.org/content/journals/10.1146/annurev.soc.30.012703.110510?crawler=true&mimetype=application/pdf

Rob McLaughlin, 'Whither Recognition of Belligerency?' (2020) https://lieber.westpoint.edu/whither-recognition-of-belligerency/

Philip Drew, The Law of Maritime Blockade (2017) https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-law-of-maritime-blockade-9780198808435

You might also like:

Tamsin Paige, "Piracy and Universal Jurisdiction" (2013) https://www6.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/journals/MqLawJl/2013/17.html

Douglas Guilfoyle, "The Laws of War and the Fight against Somali Piracy" https://law.unimelb.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/1686284/Guilfoyle.pdf

Magne Frostad, 'Houthi Attacks on Merchant Vessels in the Red Sea' (2024) https://lieber.westpoint.edu/houthi-attacks-merchant-vessels-red-sea/ - not that we agree with all his points.

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

5. Houthi drone-boat attacks on Red Sea shipping: piracy or war crimes?

This week hosts Juliette McIntyre and Douglas Guilfoyle discuss academic career advice, clashes in the South China Sea and Palestine before the ICJ. Recommendations include: 

Douglas' 2012 pieces on doing a PhD in international law (https://www.ejiltalk.org/so-you-want-to-do-a-phd-in-international-law/; and https://www.ejiltalk.org/how-to-survive-a-phd-in-international-law/); and on mental health in academia (https://www.afronomicslaw.org/category/analysis/symposium-early-career-international-law-academia-mental-health-academia-some).

We also discuss the South China Sea arbitration (https://pcacases.com/web/sendAttach/2086) and coverage of recent developments in The Diplomat (https://thediplomat.com/tag/south-china-sea/).

Finally, Douglas is building a Lego cafe (https://twitter.com/djag2/status/1796306351163105746).

6. What's happening in the South China Sea? And an update on Palestine at the ICJ

This week host Tamsin Phillipa Paige and guest Holly Cullen discuss the long and tortuous history of attempts to extradite Wikileaks founder Julian Assange from the UK to the USA on espionage charges.

Here are Holly's recommendations for further reading: 

Suzanne Akila, 'Networks of Protection' in Holly Cullen, Joanna Harrington and Catherine Renshaw, eds., Experts, Networks and International Law (Cambridge University Press, 2017)  21.

Select Articles from The Conversation on legal issues relating to Assange:

'Julian Assange is free, but curly legal questions about his case remain', The Conversation, 26 June 2024. 
https://theconversation.com/julian-assange-is-free-but-curly-legal-questions-about-his-case-remain-233339

'Julian Assange plea deal: what does it mean for the Wikileaks founder and what happens now?', The Conversation, 25 June 2024.
https://theconversation.com/julian-assange-plea-deal-what-does-it-mean-for-the-wikileaks-founder-and-what-happens-now-233207

'Julian Assange's appeal to avoid extradition will go ahead. It could be legally groundbreaking', The Conversation, 20 May 2024.
https://theconversation.com/julian-assanges-appeal-to-avoid-extradition-will-go-ahead-it-could-be-legally-groundbreaking-227859

'Explainer: what charges does Julian Assange face, and what's likely to happen next?', The Conversation, 12 April 2019.
https://theconversation.com/explainer-what-charges-does-julian-assange-face-and-whats-likely-to-happen-next-115362

'UN decision is not "the end of the road" that Assange claims it is', The Conversation, 6 February 2016.
https://theconversation.com/un-decision-is-not-the-end-of-the-road-that-assange-claims-it-is-54257

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

7. Julian Assange: Jurisdiction, Extradition and Human Rights

8. Aggression and the Political Economy of War

In this episode Douglas Guilfoyle and Ntina Tzouvala discuss Ntina's article "Aggression, Capitalism, and International Law: Missed Opportunities or Structural Constraints?" https://academic.oup.com/clp/advance-article/doi/10.1093/clp/cuae006/7690074

Ntina's recommendations: 

Joanna Kyriakakis, Corporations, Accountability and International Criminal Law, https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/gbp/corporations-accountability-and-international-criminal-law-9780857939494.html ; 

Scott Veitch, Law and Irresponsibility, https://www.routledge.com/Law-and-Irresponsibility-On-the-Legitimation-of-Human-Suffering/Veitch/p/book/9780415442510 ; 

Antony Loewenstein, The Palestine Laboratory, https://shop.redflag.org.au/products/the-palestine-laboratory ; 

and here is Margot the kitten: https://x.com/djag2/status/1813360318468571429 !

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

8. Aggression and the Political Economy of War

In this episode the Called to the Bar team hit the conference circuit! Hosts Juliette McIntyre and Douglas Guilfoyle interview a range of special guests at the 2024 Australia New Zealand Society of International Law annual conference in Melbourne, and the Blue Security early career workshop in Manila. Featured guests include: Mellissa Stewart (University of Hawaii); Philippa Webb (University of Oxford); Frances Anggadi (University of Wollongong); Holly Cullen (University of Western Australia); Yvonne Breitwieser-Faria (University of Queensland); Tamer Morris (University of Sydney); Bec Strating (LaTrobe University); Muhamad Arif (Griffith University); Thư Nguyễn Hoàng Anh (National University of Singapore); Su Wai Mon (University of Malaya); and Alex De La Cruz (Tilburg University).

Called to the Bar: International Law over Drinks

9. The Called to the Bar Roadshow

In this episode Douglas Guilfoyle and Kevin Heller discuss arguments that the Oslo Accords mean the the International Criminal Court lacks jurisdiction over the actions of Israeli national in Palestine. Kevin recommends articles on the topic in a special issue of vanderbilt Journal of International Law (https://scholarship.law.vanderbilt.edu/vjtl/vol49/iss2/); Douglas recommends Monique Cormier's, "The Jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court over Nationals of Non-States Parties" (https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/jurisdiction-of-the-international-criminal-court-over-nationals-of-nonstates-parties/0FC0B6291D0ECDCDADAEE7167B3B1594).

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

10. International Criminal Court jurisdiction over Palestine and the Oslo Accords

In this episode Tamsin Paige chairs a discussion among regular hosts Douglas Guilfoyle, Juliette MacIntyre, Imogen Saunders and Ntina Tzouvala on the new International Court of Justice Advisory opinion "Legal Consequences arising from the Policies and Practices of Israel in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem". It's a blockbuster episode for a blockbuster opinion.

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

11. Group therapy: The new ICJ advisory opinion on Palestine

In this week's episode Tamsin Philippa Paige interviews Emily Jones about posthuman feminism, and what it means for international law. Tamsin and Emily also discuss disability and academia. 

Lots of recommendations! 

From Emily: Lauren Berlant, Cruel Optimism (Duke University Press 2011)

Rosi Braidotti, The Posthuman (Polity Press 2013)

Hilary Charlesworth, ‘The Sex of the State in International Law,’ in Ngaire Naffine and Rosemary Owens (eds.), Sexing the Subject of Law, (LBC Information Services, 1997): 251-268.
Lee Edelman, No Future: Queer Theory and the Death Drive (Duke University Press 2004)

Donna Haraway - A Cyborg Manifesto - reprinted in lots of places see e.g. https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/arts/english/currentstudents/undergraduate/modules/fictionnownarrativemediaandtheoryinthe21stcentury/manifestly_haraway_----_a_cyborg_manifesto_science_technology_and_socialist-feminism_in_the_....pdf

Gina Heathcote, Feminist Dialogues on International Law: Successes, Tensions, Futures (Oxford University Press 2019)

Zakiyyah Iman Jackson, Becoming Human: Matter and Meaning in an Anticloack world (NYU Press 2020)

Emily Jones, Feminist Theory and International Law: Posthuman Perspectives (Routledge 2023)

Ratna Kapur, 'The (im)possibility of queering international Human Rights Law,' in Dianne Otto (ed), Queering International Law: Possibilities, Alliances, Complicities, Risks (Routledge 2017)

Lys Kulamadayil, 'Ableism in the College of International Lawyers: on disabling differences in the professional field,' Leiden Journal of International Law 36(3) (2023)

José Esteban Muñoz, Cruising Utopia: The Then and There of Queer Futurity (NYU Press 2009)

Usha Natarajan and Julia Dehm, 'Where is the Environment? Locating Nature in International Law,' TWAILER: Reflections (2019): https://twailr.com/where-is-the-environment-locating-nature-in-international-law/

Logan J. Smilges, Crip Negativity (University of Minnesota Press 2023)

From Tamsin:

Emma Genovese & Tamsin Phillipa Paige, Life as Distinct from Patriarchal Influence: Exploring Queerness and Freedom through Portrait of a Lady on Fire, https://doi.org/10.1080/13200968.2024.2328192

Emma Genovese, The Spectacle of Respectable Equality, https://www.unswlawjournal.unsw.edu.au/article/the-spectacle-of-respectable-equality-queer-discrimination-in-australian-law-post-marriage-equality

Tamsin Phillipa Paige, Claerwen O'Hara (eds), Queer Encounters with International Law, https://www.routledge.com/Queer-Encounters-with-International-Law-Lives-Communities-Subjectivities/Paige-OHara/p/book/9781032643045

Tamsin Phillipa Paige, Claerwen O'Hara (eds), Queer Engagements with International Law, https://www.routledge.com/Queer-Engagements-with-International-Law-Times-Spaces-Imaginings/OHara-Paige/p/book/9781032643229

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

13. What is posthuman feminism, and what does it mean for international law?

In this week's episode Ntina Tzouvala and Douglas Guilfoyle discuss Douglas' article "Litigation as Statecraft: Small States and the Law of the Sea" and the wider project on legal statecraft it forms a part of. That, and board games! Recommendations:

Douglas Guilfoyle, Litigation as Statecraft: Small States and the Law of the Sea https://academic.oup.com/bybil/advance-article-abstract/doi/10.1093/bybil/brad009/7186911;

Small States, Legal Argument, and International Disputes (NUS CIL symposium), https://cil.nus.edu.sg/blog/symposia/small-states-legal-argument-and-international-disputes/;

Isaac B. Kardon, China’s Law of the Sea, https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300256475/chinas-law-of-the-sea/;

Congyan Cai, The Rise of China and International Law, https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-rise-of-china-and-international-law-9780190073602; and

Jill Goldenzeil, Lawfare between Russia and Ukraine, https://www.cornelllawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Goldenziel-online-essay-final.pdf.

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

14. The legal statecraft of small states

This week Tamsin Phillipa Paige interviews Gina Heathcote on her work applying queer theory method to oceans law. What does it mean to view the ocean as a legal subject? What can legal pluralism and feminist theory tell us about maritime security?

Gina's recommendations and references:

Ratna Kapur - book Gender, Alterity and Human Rights (https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/gbp/gender-alterity-and-human-rights-9781839104473.html) and her article (https://journals.law.harvard.edu/hrj/wp-content/uploads/sites/83/2020/06/15HHRJ1-Kapur.pdf)

Rahul Rao - Out of Time: The Queer Politics of Postcoloniality (https://academic.oup.com/book/37418)

Kathy Jetnil-Kijiner - artist and poet (kathyjetnilkijiner.com) - two poems, Rise: From One Island to Another (https://350.org/rise-from-one-island-to-another/) and Islands Dropped from a Basket (https://www.kathyjetnilkijiner.com/islands-dropped-from-a-basket/)

Charlesworth, Heathcote and Jones in Feminist Legal Studies - Feminist Scholarship on International Law in the 1990s and Today: An Inter-Generational Conversation (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10691-018-9384-1)

The forthcoming books Queer Encounters with International Law: Lives, Communities, Subjectivities (https://www.routledge.com/Queer-Encounters-with-International-Law-Lives-Communities-Subjectivities/Paige-OHara/p/book/9781032643045) and Queer Engagements with International Law: Times, Spaces, Imaginings (https://www.routledge.com/Queer-Engagements-with-International-Law-Times-Spaces-Imaginings/OHara-Paige/p/book/9781032643229) 

Vanja Hamzic's writing on law and violence in: Queering International Law: Possibilities, Alliances, Complicities (https://www.routledge.com/Queering-International-Law-Possibilities-Alliances-Complicities-Risks/Otto/p/book/9780367886370)

The art of Léuli Eshrāghi (1986-), they belong to the Sāmoan clans Seumanutafa and Tautua, (https://leulieshraghi.art/)

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

15. Queer Oceans Law

In this week's episode Imogen Saunders discusses her work with Shruti Rana (University of Missouri School of Law) and Peter Danchin (University of Maryland Carey Francis King Carey School of Law.) on engagement with international law in a populist era, and the impact of populism and American exceptionalism on international law. 

Peter recommends (both open access): 

Antony Anghie, "Rethinking International Law: A TWAIL Retrospective", https://academic.oup.com/ejil/article/34/1/7/7167027; and

Nehal Bhuta, "Recovering social rights", https://academic.oup.com/book/56391/chapter/448353512 .

Shruti recommends:

Jessica Calarco, Holding It Together: How Women Became America's Safety Net, https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/697130/holding-it-together-by-jessica-calarco/ .

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

17. Populism, American exceptionalism and international law

This week Douglas Guilfoyle, Tamsin Phillipa Paige, Imogen Saunders and Ntina Tzouvala discuss the challenges of teaching international law and the trend towards more online education. Recommendations:

Open access textbook: Sué González Hauck, Raffaela Kunz, Max Milas (eds), Public International Law: A Multi-Perspective Approach https://doi.org/10.4324/9781003451327; 

Henry Jones and Aoife O’Donoghue, "History and self-reflection in the teaching of international law" https://academic.oup.com/lril/article/10/1/71/6587156; 

Jean-Pierre Gauci, Barrie Sander (eds), Teaching International Law: Reflections on Pedagogical Practice in Context https://www.routledge.com/9781032551517; and

a seminar on Gauci and Sander's book featuring contributors talking about legal eduation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_DzxIekK1k.

18. Crisis, controversy and online learning: how do we teach international law?

Language warning! This week Ntina Tzouvala chairs a discussion with Douglas Guilfoyle and Tamsin Phillipa Paige on Israel’s attacks on Lebanon in its conflict with Hezbollah. We discuss the pager attack, the recent ground offensive, and the implications of this conflict for the discipline of international humanitarian law. 

Recommendations:

Douglas' tweet thread on the "Solferino moment" https://x.com/djag2/status/1836741318242099283;

Adil Haque and Janina Dill interviewed by Craig Martin on the JIB/JAB podcast https://jibjabpodcast.com/episode-39-dill-haque-on-ihl-and-the-idf-conduct-of-hostilities-in-gaza/;

Samuel Moyn interviewed by Ayesha Malek on the @War podcast https://share.transistor.fm/s/c4a63027;

Gerry Simpson, "Law, War and Crime" https://shorturl.at/4c5Bw;

Rob McLaughlin, "Recognition of Belligerency and the Law of Armed Conflict", https://global.oup.com/academic/product/recognition-of-belligerency-and-the-law-of-armed-conflict-9780197507056; 

David Kennedy, "Of War and Law", https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691128641/of-war-and-law.

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

19. Lebanon: Israel's attacks and humanitarian law

This week Juliette McIntyre talks with Tamsin Phillipa Paige and Aoife O'Donoghue about Security Council reform. Is it possible? (Spoiler: not really. Additional spoiler: Tamsin taps the sign.)

Aoife's recommendations: 

Dipo Faloyin Africa is not a Country (Penguin, 2022) https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/444389/africa-is-not-a-country-by-faloyin-dipo/9781529114829

Priyasha Saksena, "Building the Nation: Sovereignty and International Law in the Decolonisation of South Asia". (2020) 23 Journal of the History of International Law 52

Jonn Elledge A History of the World in 47 Borders (Hachette, 2024)

Only Murders in the Building https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11691774/

Silo https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14688458/

And the speech where Ursula K le Guin said "We live in capitalism. Its power seems inescapable. So did the divine right of kings." https://www.ursulakleguin.com/nbf-medal

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

20. Security Council reform: is it possible? (No, it's not)

This week Imogen Saunders chairs a conversation with Douglas Guilfoyle and Ntina Tzouvala about the deal, announced on 3 October 2024 between Mauritius and the UK which transfers sovereignty of the Chagos Islands to Mauritius. This deal – once thought inconceivable – has caused a great deal of commentary in the international legal community. We delve into the issues and why death, taxes, and US bases are (international) life's only certainties.

Recommendations! From Douglas:

Articles by Douglas and Philippa Webb on the Chagos litigation in https://law.unimelb.edu.au/mjil/issues/issue-archive/213 ;

Philippe Sands, The Last Colony, https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/aug/14/the-last-colony-by-philippe-sands-review-britains-chagos-islands-shame ;

From Ntina:

Daniel Immerwahr, How to Hide an Empire: A History of the Greater United States, https://www.penguin.com.au/books/how-to-hide-an-empire-9781473545335

Tom Frost and CRG Murray, The Mists of Time: Intertemporality and Self-Determination's Territorial Integrity Rule in the ICJ's Chagos Advisory Opinion, https://law.unimelb.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/5034695/Frost-and-Murray-Final-Approval-28.07.2024-For-PL-without-Track-1.pdf.

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

21. Death, taxes, and US foreign bases: The Chagos Archipelago

This week Imogen Saunders chairs a discussion with Alex Green and Douglas Guilfoyle on their forthcoming article "The Australia-Tuvalu Falepili Union Treaty: Statehood and Security in the Face of Anthropogenic Climate Change". Can a state still exist without land territory? Is the new Australia-Tuvalu treaty a landmark climate mobility agreement of a neo-colonial arrangement?

An advance access version of the article is available at: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4961093

The text of the Falepili Union Treaty is available at: https://www.dfat.gov.au/sites/default/files/australia-tuvalu-falepili-union-treaty.pdf

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

22. Climate change and the survival of small island states: The new Tuvalu-Australia Treaty

In this episode Tamsin Phillipa Paige speaks with Juliana Santos de Carvalho about how we read the silences in international legal discourse and how some quasi-legal regimes (such as the women, peace and security agenda) are haunted by the shadow of legality. It's hauntology, just in time for Halloween! (Sort of.) Juliana also discusses what it's like to make a career in international law starting out as a first-in-family academic from a disadvantaged region of Brazil.

Recommendations:

Juliana Santos de Carvalho, ‘The Powers of Silence: Making Sense of the Non-Definition of Gender in International Criminal Law’ (2022) 35 Leiden Journal of International Law 963. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/leiden-journal-of-international-law/article/powers-of-silence-making-sense-of-the-nondefinition-of-gender-in-international-criminal-law/4C07987AD98E326EEDE644AD7A61B306 ;

Juliana Santos de Carvalho, 'Under the Shadow of Legality: A Shadow Hauntology on the Legal Construction of the Women, Peace and Security Agenda' (2024) Leiden Journal of International Law (First View). https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/leiden-journal-of-international-law/article/under-the-shadow-of-legality-a-shadow-hauntology-on-the-legal-construction-of-the-women-peace-and-security-agenda/B637D4E3798E7EA4DDC39B90F005154C#article ;

Jack Halberstam, The Queer Art of Failure (Duke University Press 2011); 

Maria Lugones, ‘Playfulness,“World”-Travelling, and Loving Perception’ (1987) 2 Hypatia 3 https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/hypatia/article/abs/playfulness-worldtravelling-and-loving-perception/C3670D079AD93578FB093CF09FBB87D6 ; 

María Lugones, ‘Toward a Decolonial Feminism’ (2010) 25 Hypatia 742 https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/hypatia/article/abs/playfulness-worldtravelling-and-loving-perception/C3670D079AD93578FB093CF09FBB87D6 ;

Tamsin Phillipa Paige‘“The Whore That Lost Everything”: The Tyranny of Law and the Queer Feminisation of Soft Power as Explored in Black Sails’ (2023) 17(2) 415-429 https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/pol-2023-2014/html

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

23. Silences, Shadows and Hauntings in International Law

In this episode Douglas Guilfoyle hits the road for the Called to the Bar team and attends the American Branch of the International Law Association's "International Law Weekend" conference at Fordham University School of Law, New York and the Lieber Institute workshop at West Point. Along the way he chats with Chris Carpenter (PhD student, Cambridge), Martins Paparinskis (UCL, International Law Commission), Monique Cormier (Monash), Jay Batonbacal (University of the Philippines), Emily Crawford (Sydney), Craig Martin (Washburn) about life in academia and whatever else is on their mind.

24. The Second Called to the Bar Roadshow: Empire State of Mind

This week Juliette McIntyre, having just finished her PhD, asks the rest of the panel about career planning. Where should you aim to work, how much should you publish, when should you turn the PhD into a book, and do you ever recover from post PhD mental exhaustion? Featuring Ntina Tzouvala, Douglas Guilfoyle and Tamsin Paige.

Recommendations:

Ntina Tzouvala

Andrea Lawlor, Paul Takes the Form of a Mortal Girl, https://www.panmacmillan.com.au/9781529007671/

Tamsin:

Seanan McGuire writing as Mira Grant, Newsflesh Trilogy, https://www.miragrant.com/series/newsflesh/

Douglas:

Michael Chabon, The Yiddish Policeman's Union, https://www.harpercollins.com.au/9780007373055/the-yiddish-policemens-union/

China Mieville, The City and the City, https://www.panmacmillan.com.au/9780330534192/

Roger Zelazny, The Chronicles of Amber, https://www.hachette.com.au/roger-zelazny/the-chronicles-of-amber

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

25. What Juliette did next: academic career planning

The final episode of season 1! This week Douglas Guilfoyle, Tamsin Phillipa Paige, Imogen Saunders, Juliette McIntyre review the year in international law, the year in their own careers and the life of the podcast, and breaking news regarding the International Criminal Court's issuance of arrest warrants in respect of the Situation in the State of Palestine. Strong language straight out of the gate!

Recommendations and resources:

On the imminent Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women case against Afghanistan: https://www.dfat.gov.au/news/media-release/launch-initiative-accountability-afghanistans-violations-cedaw-declaration

Tom Dannenbaum's explainer on ICC Arrest Warrants in the Situation in Palestine: https://www.justsecurity.org/105048/icc-arrest-warrants/

Summer reading: Anton Hur, Towards Eternity (Juliette's recommendation); Amor Towles, The Lincoln Highway (Imogen's recommendation); Gail Carriger's ParasolVerse novels (Tamsin's recommendation); Jeff Noon, A Man of Shadows (Douglas' recommendation).

Douglas in a West Point tar bucket: https://x.com/djag2/status/1852086476689060272/photo/1

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

26. End of Year Drinks: The Year in Review

In this episode Ntina Tzouvala and Douglas Guilfoyle discuss one of the great misunderstood cases of international law: The Lotus Case. What is 'the Lotus principle'? Does the Lotus case even stand for it? How did the case come about and what was really at stake between Turkey and France?

Douglas and Ntina recommend reading:

Douglas Guilfoyle, "SS Lotus (France v Turkey) (1927)" in Landmark Cases in Public International Law. https://www.bloomsbury.com/au/landmark-cases-in-public-international-law-9781509918782/

Umut Özsu's article, "De-territorializing and Re-territorializing Lotus: Sovereignty and Systematicity as Dialectical Nation-Building in Early Republican Turkey," published in the Leiden Journal of International Law. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/leiden-journal-of-international-law/article/deterritorializing-and-reterritorializing-lotus-sovereignty-and-systematicity-as-dialectical-nationbuilding-in-early-republican-turkey/B4A1BF31CE88EFC6BA9B2758D8869750

"The Lotus Principle in ICJ Jurisprudence: Was the Ship Ever Afloat?" by Hugh Handeyside. https://repository.law.umich.edu/mjil/vol29/iss1/3/

"Letting Lotus Bloom" by An Hertogen, published in the European Journal of International Law. 

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27. What everyone gets wrong about the Lotus Case

In this episode Douglas Guilfoyle and Juliette McIntyre discuss President Trump's startling plans to "own" Gaza and resettle all its inhabitants elsewhere, the equally startling number of international laws this breaks, and what the media gets wrong in covering it.

28. Emergency cast: Trump's Gaza Plan (wtf?)

In this week's episode Juliette McIntyre, Mike Becker (Trinity College Dublin) and Kyra Wigard (Utrecht University) discusses recent allegations of plagiarism at the International Court of Justice, its implications for public perceptions of the institution, and more widely. What ethical standards bind ICJ judges, or the judges of other international tribunals? Are such questions really new? What is the role of codes of ethics for international courts?

Recommendations:

Gleider Hernández, The International Court of Justice and the Judicial Function, https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-international-court-of-justice-and-the-judicial-function-9780199646630 

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

29.  Judges Behaving Badly? Plagiarism and Ethics at International Courts

What is AUKUS - the trilateral security partnership between Australia, the United Kingdom, and the United States? What is it meant to do – beyond replace Australia’s aging submarine fleet – and what are the international law issues and implications?

This week Douglas Guilfoyle talks all things AUKUS with Rob McLaughlin (University of Wollongong), Monique Cormier (Monash University) and Natalia Jevglevskaja (University of New South Wales).

Recommendations

Trevor Findlay, That Sinking Feeling: The AUKUS Submarines and the Nonproliferation Regime
https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au/australianoutlook/that-sinking-feeling-the-aukus-submarines-and-the-nonproliferation-regime/ 

William Greenwalt and Tob Corben, AUKUS Enablers? Assessing Defence Trade Control Reforms in Australia and the United States (United States Studies Centre, 2024), 8, https://www.ussc.edu.au/aukus-assessing-defence-trade-control-reforms-in-australia-and-the-united-states

30. What the Aukus?

What does the practise of international law look like at the day to day level? What is it like to be an international lawyer? This week Tamsin Phillipa Paige speaks to a panel of international lawyers with experience in the private and public sectors: Dr Sarah McCosker (Lexbridge Lawyers); CJ McKenzie (Office of International Law, Australian Attorney General's Department) and Commodore David Letts (Royal Australian Navy and University of Wollongong). All guests are speaking in their personal capacity and their views should not be attributed to their employers or clients, past or present.

Recommendations include:

Rob Mclaughlin, "‘Giving’ Operational Legal Advice: Context and Method" (2011) 50 Military Law and the Law of War Review 99 (paywall) https://www.elgaronline.com/view/journals/mllwr/50/1/article-p99.xml

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

31. International law in practice (or is it practise?)

In this week's episode, in light of 48 hours of the news cycle, Juliette McIntyre convenes the Called to the Bar team - Tamsin Phillipa Paige, Ntina Tzouvala, Imogen Saunders and Douglas Guilfoyle - to ask: does international law have a future? And if so, what does it look like without the US as the guarantor of international order?

Grab a drink and settle in. It's going to be a bumpy global order transition.

Recommendations include:

Tamsin Paige, "Petulant and Contrary: Approaches by the Permanent Five Members of the UN Security Council to the Concept of 'threat to the peace' under Article 39 of the UN Charter" (Chapter 1), https://brill.com/display/title/54194?language=en

Frank Moorhouse, "Dark Palace" (on the end of the League of Nations) 
https://www.penguin.com.au/books/dark-palace-9780143790914

What Douglas was wearing: https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:6224ogbnhmjhtpjoteynx4hk/post/3ljiyhoop342r

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

32 Group Therapy: So Long and Thanks for all the International Law

This week we continue our "what does everyone get wrong about classic case X" series. And today we're looking at the overquoted, under-authoritative, and deeply de-historicized "Caroline Case" (or, more accurately, the "Caroline Affair") with regular co-host Imogen Saunders. Digressions include a plea for accuracy, critical thinking skills and ... Elon Musk?

Recommendations: 

Craig Forcese, "Destroying the Caroline: The Frontier Raid That Reshaped the Right to War"
https://irwinlaw.com/product/destroying-the-caroline/

"'We will make mistakes': Musk pressed on claim $50m of condoms sent to Gaza" (The Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2025/feb/12/musk-says-he-will-make-mistakes-and-that-he-double-checks-with-trump-video

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait


33. What everyone gets wrong about the Caroline "Case"

A podcast of informal conversation about topical issues in international law, life in academia and whatever else is on our mind. Hosted by Douglas Guilfoyle and featuring Juliette McIntyre, Tamsin Paige, Imogen Saunders, Nitna Tzouvala. 

Music: Sam Barsh, Oils of Au Lait

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