This is the Libertarianism promoted by Charles Koch and his legion of goons.

The framers of the constitution specifically and explicitly wanted to combat "democracy."  That is the reason why the Senate was created -- not so much to balance large and small states.  https://soundcloud.com/historiansplaining/myth-of-the-month-9-the-us-constitution-and-the-origins-of-the-senate-and-electoral-college

And this splits Paine apart. His father, a Quaker, did not want him to learn latin. He rightly saw how it was used by the elite of England to separate the masses from religion and culture, to make only the select few "worthy" of really understanding scripture etc. So Paine has this distinction from the other's not just by happenstance, but because his dad wanted him opposed to the exact people that ended up being the founding fathers

I remember my high school us history teacher said that the original colonies foresaw themselves endlessly expanding their borders westword. was that accurate? great podcast

I love Chapo Trap House, but listening to the first episode I am afraid you are unwittingly victims of the propaganda of the framers of the constitution (Federalist Papers - and most historians since). You claim that the Articles of Confederation government was a failure. Weak is also usually mentioned. The Articles were an alliance, NOT a government. Had we revised the alliance, there would be no cult of the Presidency. Instead, the framers squashed democracy before it flowered. Please watch the first episode of our series on the topic "Confounding Father" and look up historian Woody Holton: https://www.nerdsmakemedia.com/confounding-father

Yall gonna hit us, _the people_, with a paywall?

Constitution - Washington

Get in the Presidency, George.

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