Name: Applying Agile in the DoD: Fourth Principle by Carnegie Mellon - Software Engineering Institute in Applying Agile in the DoD
Duration: 18 min 21 s
Description: In this episode, the fourth in a series by Suzanne Miller and Mary Ann Lapham exploring the application of agile principles in the Department of Defense (DoD), the two researchers discuss the application of the fourth principle, "Business people and developers must work together daily throughout the project." Listen on Apple Podcasts.

Suzanne Miller and Mary Ann Lapham explore the application of agile principles in the Department of Defense (DoD)

Applying Agile in the DoD

As software size, complexity, and interconnectedness has grown, software modernization within the Department of Defense (DoD) has become more important than ever. In this discussion moderated by Matthew Butkovic, technical director of risk and resilience in the SEI CERT Division, SEI director Paul Nielsen outlines the SEI’s work with the DoD on software modernization, including controlling the attack surface, incorporating industry practices such as DevSecOps, and the interplay between software, cybersecurity, and AI. &nbsp;

DOD Software Modernization: SEI Impact and Innovation

Machine learning (ML) models commonly experience issues when integrated into production systems. In this podcast, researchers from the Carnegie Mellon University Software Engineering Institute and the U.S. Army AI Integration Center (AI2C) discuss Machine Learning Test and Evaluation (MLTE), a new tool that provides a process and infrastructure for ML test and evaluation. MLTE can aid organizations across the DoD in more effectively negotiating, documenting, and evaluating model and system qualities.

Improving Machine Learning Test and Evaluation with MLTE

, a principal researcher at the Carnegie Mellon University Software Engineering Institute (SEI) and lead of the SEI’s Tactical and AI-Enabled Systems Initiative, was elected the 2026 president of the IEEE Computer Society (CS), the largest community of computer scientists and engineers, with more than 370,000 members around the world. In this SEI podcast, Lewis sits down with Ipek Ozkaya, technical director of Engineering Intelligent Software Systems, to discuss her vision and plans for the IEEE CS presidency.

Grace Lewis Outlines Vision for IEEE Presidency

Insider incidents cause around 35 percent of data breaches, creating financial and security risks for organizations. In this podcast from the Carnegie Mellon University Software Engineering Institute, Austin Whisnant and Dan Costa discuss the Insider Incident Data Expression Standard (IIDES), a new schema for collecting and sharing data about insider incidents. IIDES facilitates insider incident information handling to help organizations better protect themselves against the compromise of sensitive information and mission-critical systems, which is essential to maintaining national security and defense.

Getting the Most Out of Your Insider Risk Data with IIDES

In this podcast from the Carnegie Mellon University Software Engineering Institute (SEI), Gregory Touhill, director of the SEI CERT Division, sits down with Matthew Butkovic, technical director of Cyber Risk and Resilience at CERT, to discuss ways in which CERT researchers and technologists are working to deliver rapid capability to warfighters in the Department of Defense.&nbsp;

Delivering Capability to the DoD Warfighter

A strong cyber defense is vital to &nbsp;public- and private-sector activities in the United States. In 2019, in response to an executive order to strengthen America’s cybersecurity workforce, the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) partnered with the SEI to develop and run the President’s Cup Cybersecurity Competition, a national cyber competition that identifies and rewards the best cybersecurity talent in the federal workforce. In six years, more than 8,000 people have taken part in the President’s Cup. In this podcast from the Carnegie Mellon University Software Engineering Institute (SEI), Jarrett Booz, technical lead for the President’s Cup, and John DiRicco, a training specialist in the SEI’s CERT Division, sit down with Matthew Butkovic, the CERT technical director of cyber risk and resilience, to reflect on six years of hosting the cup, including challenges, lessons learned, the path forward, and publicly available resources. &nbsp;

The Best and Brightest: 6 Years of Supporting the President’s Cup Cybersecurity Competition

Warfighters in the Department of Defense (DoD) operate in high-stakes environments where security, efficiency, and speed are critical. In such environments DevSecOps has become crucial in the drive toward modernization and overall mission success. A recent study led by researchers at the Carnegie Mellon University Software Engineering Institute (SEI) examined the state of DevSecOps within the Department of Defense. In this podcast, Eileen Wrubel,&nbsp;the SEI’s Transforming Software Acquisition Policy and Practice technical director, sits down with George Lamb, director for DoD Cloud and Software Modernization in the Information Enterprise Office of the DoD CIO, which is responsible for the DoD Software Modernization Strategy and its associated implementation plan, and Bill Nichols, lead of the SEI’s Software Engineering Measurement and Analysis work. They discuss DevSecOps successes in the DoD and opportunities for scaling its impact.

Making Process Respectable Again: Advancing DevSecOps in the DoD Mission Space

A January 2025 Defense Innovation Board study on scaling nontraditional defense innovation stated, “We must act swiftly to ensure the DoD leads in global innovation and competition over AI and autonomous systems – and is a trendsetter for their responsible use in modern warfare." In this podcast from the Carnegie Mellon University Software Engineering Institute (SEI), chief technical officer Tom Longstaff discusses the SEI’s long-standing work to help the DoD rapidly scale technology including artificial intelligence (AI) and autonomous systems. &nbsp;

The Magic in the Middle: Evolving Scaled Software Solutions for National Defense

Container images are increasingly being used as the main method for software deployment, so ensuring the reproducibility of container images is becoming a critical step in protecting the software supply chain. However, in practice builds are often not reproducible due to elements of the build environment that rely on nondeterministic factors such as timestamps and external dependencies. Lack of reproducibility can lead to lack of trust, broken builds, and possibly mask hidden malware insertion. Vessel, a recent tool from the Carnegie Mellon University Software Institute (SEI), helps developers identify the difference between two container images to help sort benign from problematic issues. In this SEI Podcast, Kevin Pitstick, a senior software engineer at the SEI and Vessel’s lead developer, and Lihan Zhan, a software engineer at the SEI working on tactical and AI-enabled systems, sit down with Grace Lewis, lead of the Tactical and AI-Enabled Systems (TAS) applied research and development team at the SEI, to discuss the Vessel tool, its development, and application in mission-critical settings.  &nbsp;     &nbsp;

Understanding Container Reproducibility Challenges: Stopping the Next Solar Winds

A recent Google survey found that many developers felt comfortable using the Rust programming language in two months or less. Yet barriers to Rust adoption remain, particularly in safety-critical systems, where features such as memory and processing power are in short supply and compliance with regulations is mandatory. In our latest podcast from the Carnegie Mellon University Software Engineering Institute (SEI), Vaughn Coates, an engineer in the SEI’s Software Solutions Division, sits down with Joe Yankel, initiative Lead of the DevSecOps Innovations team at the SEI, to discuss the barriers and benefits of Rust adoption.&nbsp;&nbsp;

The Benefits of Rust Adoption for Mission-and-Safety-Critical Systems

In this episode, the first in a series by Suzanne Miller and Mary Ann Lapham exploring the application of agile principles in the Department of Defense (DoD), the two researchers discuss the application of the first principle, "Our highest priority is to satisfy the customer through early and continuous delivery of valuable software." Listen on Apple Podcasts.

Applying Agile in the DoD: First Principle

In this episode, the fifth in a series by Suzanne Miller and Mary Ann Lapham exploring the application of Agile principles in the Department of Defense (DoD), the two researchers discuss the application of the fifth principle, Build projects around motivated individuals. Give them the environment and support they need, and trust them to get the job done. Listen on Apple Podcasts.

Applying Agile in the DoD: Fifth Principle

In this episode, the second in a series by Suzanne Miller and Mary Ann Lapham exploring the application of agile principles in the Department of Defense (DoD), the two researchers discuss the application of the second principle, "Welcome changing requirements, even late in development. Agile processes harness change for the customer's competitive advantage." Listen on Apple Podcasts.

Applying Agile in the DoD: Second Principle

In this episode, the fourth in a series by Suzanne Miller and Mary Ann Lapham exploring the application of agile principles in the Department of Defense (DoD), the two researchers discuss the application of the fourth principle, "Business people and developers must work together daily throughout the project." Listen on Apple Podcasts.

Applying Agile in the DoD: Fourth Principle

In this episode, the third in a series by Suzanne Miller and Mary Ann Lapham exploring the application of agile principles in the Department of Defense (DoD), the two researchers discuss the application of the third principle, "Deliver working software frequently, from a couple of weeks to a couple of months, with a preference to the shorter timescale." Listen on Apple Podcasts.

Applying Agile in the DoD: Third Principle

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Applying Agile in the DoD: Fourth Principle

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