A conversation with Olivier Corten, Professor of International Law at the Free University of Brussels in Belgium, about the recently published 2nd edition of his book "The Law Against War." Our discussion ranges from the differing methodological approaches to the international law on the use of force, the threshold for what constitutes a use of force, the scope and operation of the doctrine of self-defense, the proper understanding of the principle of necessity, the validity of anticipatory self-defense, how the law on use of force applies to actions against non-state actors, cyber operations, and much more! For more info and links to materials referred to, visit our website:
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Episode 26 - Corten on the Law Against War

JIB/JAB - Episode 26: Olivier Corten on the Law Against War

A conversation with Sam Moyn, Professor of Jurisprudence at Yale Law School and Professor of History at Yale University. We discuss his recent and acclaimed book "Humane," which, drawing on an insight of Leo Tolstoy, argues that as the United States has come to focus on humanizing armed conflict in the last few decades, its interest in constraining the incidence of war has declined. We discuss the historical accounts that form the core premises of this argument, and dig into the nature and implications of the inverse relationship that forms the center of his argument. As the invasion of Ukraine begins, his argument that we have lost sight of the importance of preventing war is that much more urgent. A fascinating discussion about a provocative book that will leave you with a lot of food for thought!
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JIB/JAB - Episode 27: Samuel Moyn on the Humanizing of War

A conversation about the Russian invasion of Ukraine with Professors Eliav Lieblich of Tel Aviv University, Marko Milanovic of the University of Nottingham, and Ingrid Wuerth of Vanderbilt Law School. We focus on how we should be thinking about the implications of this war for the jus ad bellum regime and the collective security system going forward. While the invasion is clearly an unlawful and egregious act of aggression, have unlawful uses of force by Western states served to weaken the legal regime? Has our focus on humanitarian issues and human rights law weakened the system? Is this war a failure of the collective security system, and are the wrong lessons being drawn, particularly for nuclear non-proliferation? How should we try to restore the order going forward? A fascinating discussion about vital issues. 
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JIB/JAB - Episode 28: The War in Ukraine - Jus ad Bellum Implications

A conversation with David Sloss, Professor of Law at the University of Santa Clara, about his new book, "Tyrants on Twitter: Protecting Democracies from Information Warfare." We discuss the recent history Russian and Chinese exploitation of social media, and explore the strategic and geopolitical implications of allowing these countries engage in this "warfare by other means" to undermine democracies around the world. We examine David's law and policy proposal for how democracies might combat this form of information warfare, which includes an international agreement among democratic states to ban Russian and Chinese state agents from social media platforms, and debate some of the likely objections to his argument - including its implicit rejection of broader and more universal international law solutions and its inherent double standard, whether it distracts from several larger threats to democracy posed by social media platforms, the risk of securitizing an essentially non-military problem, and some of the more technical challenges to its implementation. A fascinating discussion!
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JIB/JAB - Episode 29: Davis Sloss on Defending Democracies Against Information Warfare

A conversation with Dr. Chile Eboe-Osuji, former President of the ICC and Distinguished International Jurist at the Lincoln Alexander School of Law, Toronto Metropolitan University in Canada. We discuss why the ICC cannot prosecute the crime of aggression in Ukraine and what the better alternatives might be, the jurisdiction and immunity issues that might arise, how other war crimes should be prosecuted, and how the war might provide an impetus for amending the Rome Statute, establishing a right to peace, restoring the jus ad bellum regime, and strengthening international criminal justice. A fascinating and wide-ranging discussion!
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JIB/JAB - Ep. 30: Chile Eboe-Osuji on Ukraine War and Implications for IHL, ICC, and Aggression

A conversation with Leila Sada, Professor of Law at Washington University School of Law in St. Louis, United States, and special advisor on crimes against humanity to the Prosecutor of the ICC. We discuss the decade long effort to establish a new international convention to prohibit and punish crimes against humanity, the role and limitations of the ICC in governing crimes against humanity, the relationship between genocide and crimes against humanity, and a number of other related issues - a fascinating discussion!
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JIB/JAB - Episode 31: Leila Sadat on Crimes Against Humanity

A conversation with Boyd van Dijk, currently a McKenzie Fellow at the University of Melbourne in Australia, about his new book, Preparing for War: The Making of the Geneva Conventions. We discuss some of the myths surrounding the history of the conventions, as well as the tensions and conflicts not just between parties to the negotiations, but also within delegations, caused by conflicting interests, values, and paradoxes within their positions. We dig into the weeds of some of the different aspects of the negotiations, and discuss why this history should matter to how we think about and understand the operation of the conventions today. A fascinating conversation! 
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JIB/JAB - Episode 32: Boyd Van Dijk on the Making of the Geneva Conventions

A conversation with René Provost, professor of law at McGill University, Faculty of Law, in Montreal, about his recent book "Rebel Courts: The Administration of Justice by Armed Insurgents." We discuss the methodology he employed in researching this deep and rich ethnography of rebel courts in conflicts ranging from Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria, to Sri Lanka, Colombia, and the DRC. We discuss how he assesses the legality of insurgents' administration of justice, how the very idea of rebel courts challenges many conceptions of law and justice, and the ways in which rebel administration of justice actually conforms to many aspects of the rule of law. It is a fascinating discussion that ranges from legal anthropology and legal theory to certain technical aspects of IHL and human rights law.
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JIB/JAB - Episode 33: Provost on Rebel Courts

A discussion with Chris O'Meara, Lecturer at Exeter University Law School, about his new book, "Necessity and Proportionality and the Right of Self-Defence In International Law." Chris explains his novel taxonomy for the principle of necessity, and how the relationship among necessity, proportionality, and imminence should be properly understood, and we delve into some of the potentially controversial claims he makes, on how necessity operates as a limiting principle, where the gravity threshold should be for for armed attack, whether the principles of self-defence are modified in responses to non-state actors, why the assertions and actions of a minority of powerful states should be considered so heavily in thinking about custom, and so much more! A fascinating conversation.
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JIB/JAB Podcast - Episode 34

JIB/JAB - Episode 34: O'Meara - Necessity and Proportionality in Self-Defence

A discussion with Tom Dannenbaum, a professor of international law at The Fletcher School at Tufts University, on his work on the war crime of starvation. We delve into the proper interpretation of the IHL prohibition on starvation as a method of warfare, and the war crime of intentionally using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare in the Rome Statute of the ICC, considering what precisely constitutes the criminal act, and what exactly is the nature of the wrong that the crime seeks to address. We go on to discuss how this should inform our understanding of the Israeli siege of Gaza. For more info and links to the materials, visit our website at:
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JIB/JAB - Episode 35: Dannenbaum on Sieges, the War Crime of Starvation, and Gaza

A podcast about the various legal regimes that govern the use of force and armed conflict - in short, the laws of war.

JIB/JAB - Episode 35: Dannenbaum on Sieges, the War Crime of Starvation, and Gaza

JIB/JAB - The Laws of War Podcast

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