Frank Pasquale joins us to discuss the rise of cost-benefit analysis as an influential force in American policy, the many problems with it, and what should be done about it. We also discuss his introduction to the Law and Political Economy Project's symposium on cost benefit analysis.

Frank Pasquale (@FrankPasquale) is a Professor of Law at Brooklyn Law School, and author of New Laws of Robotics (2020) and The Black Box Society (2015). Read the LPE symposium here: lpeproject.org/symposia/cost-benefit-analysis/

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We answer the question on the tip of everyone's tongue: how, exactly, does the pandemic end?

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Death Panel Episode 328 How It Doesn't End (03/17/22)

How It Doesn't End (03/17/22)

We discuss the appointment of Ashish Jha to lead the Biden administration's coronavirus response and replace Jeff Zients, what we know about how Jha views the pandemic, and what we can learn from an interview he did in January with Emily Oster for the New York Times.

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Death Panel Episode 330 As Seen On TV (03/24/22)

As Seen On TV (03/24/22)

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We speak with Jules Gill-Peterson about Texas Governor Greg Abbott's declaration in February that affirming the identities of trans children is child abuse and her recent piece "We, the Abuser State."

Jules Gill-Peterson is Associate Professor of History at Johns Hopkins University, General Co-Editor at Transgender Studies Quarterly, and the author of Histories of the Transgender Child.

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Texas w/ Jules Gill-Peterson (Unlocked)

Many point to Sweden as evidence that lockdowns and school closures were unnecessary and harmful. But what actually happened in Sweden? David Steadson joins us to talk about Sweden's herd immunity strategy, government documents that show what really happened there in 2020, and the lasting population effects of long covid.

David Steadson is a co-author of the paper "Evaluation of science advice during the COVID-19 pandemic in Sweden," published by Nature’s Journal of Humanities and Social Sciences Communications in March. You can read the full paper here: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-022-01097-5

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What Happened In Sweden w/ David Steadson (04/06/22)

What Happened In Sweden w/ David Steadson (04/07/22)

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We discuss Jeff Zients' resignation party, the Gridiron dinner superspreader event, and Leana Wen's Washington Post op-ed "The Gridiron Club outbreak shows what living with covid-19 looks like."

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Death Panel Episode 343 Teaser - A Farewell to Zients (04/11/22)

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We tell the story of Section 504, a landmark piece of civil rights legislation for disabled people in the U.S., and how it very nearly didn't happen because of concerns that passing it would be "too expensive."

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Death Panel Episode 335 A Death Panel History of 504, Part One (04/14/22)

A Death Panel History of 504, Part One (04/14/22)

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Part Two of our story of Section 504 continues with a look at the sit-in action itself—the longest occupation of a federal government building in U.S. history—and the key role played by the Oakland Black Panthers and other groups in assuring the occupation's success.

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Death Panel Episode 336 Teaser - A Death Panel History of 504, Part Two (04/18/22)

Teaser - A Death Panel History of 504, Part Two (04/18/22)

We discuss the abrupt end of the transportation mask mandate, what people really mean when they assert that "We Have the Tools," and Benjamin Mazer's awful new Atlantic piece, "It’s Just Scaring People, and It’s Not Saving Lives."

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This episode was recorded prior to the CDC's decision to appeal the ruling we discuss in the episode; our points stand.

Death Panel Episode 337 "We Have the Tools" (04/20/22)

"We Have the Tools" (04/20/22)

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We discuss a troubling new report that, according to CDC data, 40 percent of U.S. covid deaths in January and February were in people who were fully vaccinated.

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Death Panel 338 Teaser - Breakthroughs (04/25/22)

Teaser - Breakthroughs (04/25/22)

Elizabeth Popp Berman joins us to discuss how what she calls the "economic style of reasoning" came to dominate US political debates in the 20th century, and the way it continues to constrain what is understood to be politically possible.

Elizabeth Popp Berman is Associate Professor of Organizational Studies at the University of Michigan. FInd her new book, Thinking Like An Economist: How Efficiency Replaced Equality in U.S. Public Policy, here: https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691167381/thinking-like-an-economist#

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Death Panel Episode 339 Thinking Like An Economist w/ Elizabeth Popp Berman (04/28/22)

Thinking Like An Economist w/ Elizabeth Popp Berman (04/28/22)

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We speak with Nate Holdren about Friedrich Engels' concept of "social murder" and the social and political processes that have enabled the pandemic to be portrayed as if nothing more could be done.

Read Nate's piece "Depoliticizing Social Murder in the COVID-19 Pandemic" here: https://blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.edu/2022/03/21/depoliticizing-social-murder-covid-pandemic/

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Death Panel Episode 340 Teaser - Social Murder w/ Nate Holdren (05/02/22)

Teaser - Social Murder w/ Nate Holdren (05/02/22)

In light of the draft Supreme Court decision that would overturn abortion rights in the US, this week we're unlocking our deep dive on the oral arguments presented in that case, in an episode that was previously available only to patrons.

This episode features a brief new introduction, with the original recording starting at 6:30.

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Roe Decayed w/ Abby Cartus (Unlocked)

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We speak with Melissa Gira Grant about the Supreme Court's draft decision that would overturn Roe v. Wade, the many ways pregnancy and reproductive care is already policed, surveilled, and criminalized, and what to expect in a post-Roe United States.

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Death Panel Episode 341 Teaser - Post-Roe w/ Melissa Gira Grant (05/09/22)

Teaser - Post-Roe w/ Melissa Gira Grant (05/09/22)

We discuss the Biden administration's increasingly ambivalent attitude toward the pandemic as the US reaches one million deaths, and revisit the CDC's data on breakthrough deaths to try to get a better picture of what happened this past winter.

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Death Panel Episode 342 An Incalculable Loss (05/12/22)

An Incalculable Loss (05/12/22)

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We speak with Silky Shah about the Trump-era border restrictions the Biden administration has held onto, including deporting migrants under the pretense of keeping covid out of the US.

Silky Shah is executive director of Detention Watch Network.

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Death Panel Episode 343 Teaser - Title 42 w/ Silky Shah (05/16/22)

Teaser - Title 42 w/ Silky Shah (05/16/22)

We discuss the one thing everyone can seemingly agree on: the US is in a new wave, and no one knows quite how big it really is. Then we revisit the CDC's "community level" metrics, and discuss new reports that the White House is preparing to have to ration vaccines.

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Death Panel Episode 344 An Invisible Wave (05/19/22)

An Invisible Wave (05/19/22)

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We discuss how the concept of herd immunity has been interpreted over the course of the pandemic and what it may mean for us now, in light of a recent paper co-authored by Anthony Fauci titled "The Concept of Classical Herd Immunity May Not Apply to COVID-19."

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Death Panel Episode 345 Teaser - Herd Immunity (05/23/22)

Teaser - Herd Immunity (05/23/22)

We speak with Nate Holdren about Friedrich Engels' concept of "social murder" and the social and political processes that have enabled the pandemic to be portrayed as if nothing more could be done.

Read Nate's piece "Depoliticizing Social Murder in the COVID-19 Pandemic" here: https://blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.edu/2022/03/21/depoliticizing-social-murder-covid-pandemic/

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Social Murder w/ Nate Holdren (Unlocked)

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Beatrice speaks with Tracy Rosenthal about the policy frameworks that create and police houselessness and their recent piece in the New Republic, "Inside LA’s Homeless Industrial Complex."

Tracy Rosenthal is a co-founder of the L.A. Tenants Union. Their first book, Abolish Rent, written with Leonardo Vilchis, is forthcoming from Verso. Follow them @two__evils 

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Death Panel Episode 346 Teaser - Forced Alternatives w/ Tracy Rosenthal (05/30/22)

Teaser - Forced Alternatives w/ Tracy Rosenthal (05/30/22)

Beatrice speaks with Tracy Rosenthal about the policy frameworks that create and police houselessness and their recent piece in the New Republic, "Inside LA’s Homeless Industrial Complex."

Read Tracy's piece here: https://newrepublic.com/article/166383/los-angeles-echo-park-homeless-industrial-complex

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Forced Alternatives w/ Tracy Rosenthal (Unlocked)

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We discuss how mask mandates rapidly went from an obvious pandemic intervention to something even many public health experts now seem reluctant to stand behind, including the role David Leonhardt has played in minimizing the impact of masking and his recent piece "Why Masks Work, but Mandates Haven’t."

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Death Panel Episode 347 Teaser - Everybody Loves Mask Mandates (06/06/22)

Teaser - Everybody Loves Mask Mandates (06/06/22)

We speak with epidemiologist Dr. Theresa Chapple about how seemingly everyone became convinced that you can't catch covid outdoors, common misconceptions about the pandemic driven by an overwhelming focus on individual risk assessment, and lessons from her work in the field during the first two years of covid.

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Death Panel Episode 348 Outdoor Transmission w/ Dr. Theresa Chapple (06/09/22)

Outdoor Transmission w/ Dr. Theresa Chapple (06/09/22)

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Beatrice speaks with Gregg Gonsalves about the recent monkeypox outbreaks in multiple countries, how global public health and healthcare priorities have left us in a politically vulnerable position to respond to outbreaks, and his work with ACT UP and Treatment Action Group.

Gregg Gonsalves is the codirector of the Global Health Justice Partnership and an associate professor of epidemiology at the Yale School of Public Health. Read Gregg's piece, "Monkeypox Is Not a Gay Disease" here: https://www.thenation.com/article/society/monkeypox-hiv-lgbt-pride/

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Death Panel Episode 349 Teaser - Monkeypox w/ Gregg Gonsalves (06/13/22)

Teaser - Monkeypox w/ Gregg Gonsalves (06/13/22)

Abby Cartus joins us to discuss David Leonhardt's "Covid and Race," in which he made the bold (and inaccurate) claim in the New York Times that "covid’s racial gaps have narrowed and, more recently, even flipped." But first, we discuss a report that the Biden administration privately discussed what an acceptable number of ongoing daily covid deaths would be.

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Death Panel Episode 350 David Leonhardt and the Tolerable Plague w/ Abby Cartus (06/16/22)

David Leonhardt and the Tolerable Plague w/ Abby Cartus (06/16/22)

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We discuss the death of the TRIPS waiver last week at the World Trade Organization, then take a close look at a recent interview given by White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator Ashish Jha to get a sense of some of the troubling stances that may be brewing inside the Biden administration.

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Death Panel Episode 351 Teaser - Jha Watch (06/20/22)

Teaser - Jha Watch (06/20/22)

Jules Gill-Peterson and Charlie Markbreiter join us to discuss Emily Bazelon's recent controversial New York Times Magazine cover story "The Battle Over Gender Therapy," its harmful and historically inaccurate portrayal of medical transition, and why liberals are so ready to embrace gatekeeping in trans healthcare.

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Death Panel Episode 352 Panic! At the Gender Clinic w/ Jules Gill-Peterson and Charlie Markbreiter (06/23/22)

Panic! At the Gender Clinic w/ Jules Gill-Peterson and Charlie Markbreiter (06/23/22)

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With Roe v. Wade officially struck down by the Supreme Court, we speak with Melissa Gira Grant, Charlotte Shane, and Abby Cartus about how to react to this moment and where to go from here.

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Death Panel Episode 353 Teaser - The End of Roe w/ Melissa Gira Grant, Charlotte Shane, and Abby Cartus (06/27/22)

Teaser - The End of Roe w/ Melissa Gira Grant, Charlotte Shane, and Abby Cartus (06/27/22)

With Roe v. Wade officially struck down by the Supreme Court, we speak with Melissa Gira Grant, Charlotte Shane, and Abby Cartus about how to react to this moment and where to go from here.

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The End of Roe w/ Melissa Gira Grant, Charlotte Shane, and Abby Cartus (Unlocked)

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We're off this week, so for today's episode we've curated a selection of three of our favorite conversations about Emily Oster, showing the arc of her influence over the school reopening debate from 2020 onward.

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Death Panel 354 Teaser - Emily Oster, This Is Your Life (07/04/22)

Teaser - Emily Oster, This Is Your Life (07/04/22)

We speak with Silky Shah about the Trump-era border restrictions the Biden administration has held onto, including deporting migrants under the pretense of keeping covid out of the US.

Silky is the executive director of Detention Watch Network. You can follow her @silkys13 

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