Name: In App Communication with Twilio by Eat Sleep Code Podcast in Web Development
Duration: 26 min 20 s
Description: On this episode of Eat Sleep Code, Brent Schooley shares his insights on creating communication enabled applications using Twilio.

Web Development

In this episode, Suhail Patel joins Thomas Betts for a discussion about growing yourself as your company grows. When he started at Monzo, Patel was one of four engineers on the then new platform team–there are now over 100 people. The conversation covers how to thrive when the company and the systems you’re building are going through major growth.

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Scaling Systems, Companies, and Careers with Suhail Patel

In this episode of the podcast, members of the InfoQ editorial staff and friends of InfoQ discuss the current trends in the domain of AI, ML and Data Engineering.

One of the regular features of InfoQ are the trends reports, which each focus on a different aspect of software development. These reports provide the InfoQ readers and listeners with a high-level overview of the topics to pay attention to this year.

InfoQ AI, ML and Data Engineering editorial team met with external guests to discuss the trends in AI and ML areas, and what to watch out for the next 12 months. In addition to the written report and trends graph, this podcast provides a recording of a discussion where expert panelists discuss how innovative AI technologies are disrupting the industry.

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AI, ML, and Data Engineering InfoQ Trends Report 2025

Software supply chain veteran Brian Fox unpacks the security implications of the new EU Cyber Resilience Act and its profound impact on open-source projects. He reveals the hidden infrastructure risks threatening open-source projects and shares insights for senior software leaders navigating this regulatory landscape.

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The Hidden Vulnerability of The Open Source Software Supply Chain: The Underlying Infrastructure

In this podcast, InfoQ spoke with Elena Samuylova from Evidently AI, on best practices in evaluating Large Language Model (LLM) based applications. She also discussed the tools for evaluating, testing and monitoring applications powered by AI technologies.

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Elena Samuylova on Large Language Model (LLM) Based Application Evaluation and LLM as a Judge

In this podcast, Michael Stiefel spoke with Nimisha Asthagiri about the importance of system thinking, multi-agent systems, the consequences of society applying a technology into an area for which it was not designed, and whether we can ever have a healthy relationship with artificial intelligence.
 
System thinking emphasizes the importance of mental models, and how they relate to business requirements, and the architect's role in reconciling the different mental models of the participants in system design. In the area of multi-agent systems the discussion focused on how to scale such a system and control its autonomy in its relationship with humans. The discussion concludes with an exchange of views on our relationship with artificial intelligence, and the consequences of technology being used in areas for which it was never designed.

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Mental Models in Architecture & Societal Views of Technology: A Conversation with Nimisha Asthagiri

In this episode of the podcast, members of the InfoQ editorial staff and friends of InfoQ will discuss current trends in the cloud and DevOps domains as part of our annual trends report creation process. These reports provide InfoQ readers with a high-level overview of key topics to watch and also help the editorial team focus on innovative technologies. In addition to the report and the trends graph available on InfoQ.com, this podcast offers a chance to hear our raw conversation and the stories shared by our expert practitioners.

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Cloud and DevOps InfoQ Trends Report 2025

Magdalena Picariello reframes how we think about AI, moving the conversation from algorithms and metrics to business impact and outcomes. She champions evaluation systems that don't just measure accuracy but also demonstrate real-world business value, and advocates for iterative development with continuous feedback to build optimal applications.

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If You Can’t Test It, Don’t Deploy It: The New Rule of AI Development?

Jenish Shah, a back-end engineer focused on distributed systems at Netflix, provides more insights on how to handle failures in a distributed systems setup. He shares details on how he built a library that handles exceptions uniformly, regardless of the underlying communication protocol. 

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Effective Error Handling: A Uniform Strategy for Heterogeneous Distributed Systems

In this podcast, Michael Stiefel spoke with Randy Shoup about how to evolve your software after a software failure, and how to improve the resilience of your software by modeling transient states using events and workflows.

Software failure is inevitable, but learning from failure, including making the necessary changes to organizational culture can make your software more resilient. One of the most important ways to do this is to search for the truth, rather than trying to seek out the guilty. The real world is asynchronous, which means that transient events are important for resilient systems because that is where failures often occur, or compensation has to take place. Workflows and events are the best way to model these systems.

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Architecture Should Model the World as It Really Is: A Conversation with Randy Shoup

Marina Moore, a security researcher and the co-chair of the security and compliance TAG of CNCF, shares her concerns about the security vulnerabilities of containers. She explains where the issues originate, providing solutions and discussing alternative routes to using micro-VMs rather than containers. Additionally, she highlights the risks associated with AI inference.

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Cloud Security Challenges in the AI Era - How Running Containers and Inference Weaken Your System

On this episode of Eat Sleep Code, Brent Schooley shares his insights on creating communication enabled applications using Twilio.

Developer Network

In App Communication with Twilio

On this episode of Eat Sleep Code, Scott Addie discusses the various options for creating UI components in ASP.NET Core.  Scott talks about TagHelpers, View Components, and if Razor is still used in the ASP.NET Core.

UI for ASP.NET Core

Implementing ASP.NET Core UIs

On this episode of Eat Sleep Code, Steve Smith discusses the new ASP.NET Core development model, Razor Pages. Steve outlines why developers shouldn't dismiss Razor Pages before giving it a proper try. How Razor Pages compare to WebForms, MVC, and Web API are discussed.

ASPNET Core Razor Pages – Worth Checking Out

On this episode of Eat Sleep Code, guest Robert Boedigheimer discusses debugging HTTP with Fiddler and Chrome Dev Tools. Robert talks about Fiddler and how it's used to sniff out mixed https content and what are protocol-less URLs. Robert shares his tips on performance tuning by troubleshooting website images. Working with Location APIs, and mimicking slow network traffic are also discussed.

Debugging with Fiddler and Chrome Developer tools

Eat Sleep Code is the Official Telerik Podcast (Telerik by Progress). On Eat Sleep Code you'll hear from industry pros and developers just like you. Topics include all things software development and upcoming tech.

Progress believes in giving back to the developer community and we do this by writing, speaking and staying in touch with the software development community.

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