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First off I know what a script kiddie is. It is someone who runs a hacking tool without knowing what it does or how it does it. Some people would even go as far as saying that using any tool you didn't make makes you a script kiddie. (See Mr Robot S1 EP8 I believe) I disagree with this statement because we should be able to use other tools people have made to make us more efficient. All other trades do this and other trades the users for the most part know how their tools works.


What are your thoughts are on this subject. I think as long as you know how something works and know how to use more than the default settings than you are not a script kiddie. Just want to get a discussion going here instead of only questions.


If I might add, say a certain script kiddie is trying to hack his/her gmail account for "some" reason, the first thing they would do is to make a search on google and find a "gmail hacker" app, that after using it will discover that it doesn't work. And then after that, that script kiddie will find a hacker or hacking website and ask for help. That person would probably get answers like "try hydra", "medusa can help with that". But then the script kiddie would want the particular commands for that hack instead of reading the help message or option. So that kiddie wouldn't know what, say -p 25 means, but then even if he is told that, that is a port number, he wouldn't know what it means, or why it is included.


We attract script kiddies because of how far we have come as a community. We have to take the good with the bad, however, sometimes we can convert a script kiddie into a potential hacker. I encourage that a lot.


I think a lot of the time the hacking community mistakes a beginner, or noob, for a script kiddie. However there are many large differences in each group. With either group, you should help them but not give them the complete answer. Ask them to experiment, look through logs, and try debugging instead of giving them the entire answer.


Beginners will ask why something is not working, how it works, and how to get started, where as script kiddies will ask you to give them free tools without knowing what exactly they do, ask you to hack their schools, etc.





In more current matters, I think my favorite thing about all this is that in Ling's announcement he uses the phrase "pwned by a script kiddie." Haven't hung around a community who'd use that phrase in a looong time.


All my life, well, at least since the late 1990s, I've heard of this concept of "script kiddies". Allegedly, it's a term to refer to young kids or teenagers who, apparently, are somehow able to find "proof of concept" pre-coded exploit scripts of some kind, and proceed to download these to their own computers where they run them on some target website (or other server), hoping that they are unpatched/vulnerable, and, as a result, gain access to this server/computer/system.


I was an extremely lonely "nerd" with tons of anger and frustrations. I actively looked for all kinds of sketchy stuff. But I never found anything like what I described above. I don't believe it exists. I don't buy that there is such a thing as a "script kiddie".


To me, it seems like "script kiddie" is a made-up concept. I don't believe that it's as simple as running a simple script to break into a system, and I don't believe that such a script would be published in public in a way that makes "kiddies" able to find and use them.


Basically, if it had been that easy to "auto-hack" systems, this would've been abused far more often and automated long ago. I recognize that I'm not the smartest person in the world, and that there are extremely smart 14-year-olds, but I don't "buy" this whole concept. I think the "script kiddie" is a nonexistent scapegoat.


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