Spring is actually here, and we're all taking long walks. But you have to sit down eventually, and we did in front of microphones. Chris and Brendan discuss how getting outside helps creative practice, Chris interviews poet, small press publisher, reading series runner, and Chicagoan Ben Niespodziany, and then Chris and Brendan salute a man who saw the U.S.'s carpocalypse coming back in the 70s. 

ABOUT BEN
Originally from Mishawaka, Indiana, Benjamin Niespodziany is a Chicago-based poet, curator, editor, folklorist, and music marketing manager. A former Peace Corps Volunteer and Olive Garden waiter, his work has appeared in Indiana Review, Fence, Bandcamp, Conduit, Complex, Bennington Review, and elsewhere. He’s been included in the Wigleaf Top 50 and has been nominated for the Pushcart Prize, Best Microfiction, and Best of the Net. He hosts a bi-monthly reading series at The Whistler in Chicago and is the founder and editor of Pizama Press. When he doesn’t have poetry on the brain, he assists the music industry with creative campaigns and occasionally releases SoundCloud mixes.

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Topics Include: Jay Kelly, Train Dreams, Ella McCay, Looking Through Water, Blue Moon, Rental Family, Nuremberg, If I Had Legs I'd Kick You, Him, Cold Storage, Shelby Oaks, Wayward, Whistle, Silent Night Deadly Night, No Other Choice, and the future of Friday The 13th.

Hypecast - 8.8.2025

Our heroes talk about symbolism and junk.

We Just Watched... Weapons

This episode covers 2017’s It, the famous fun clown story. Michael and Abe discuss why they made the clown SO sexy and discuss the Kingiverse at large. 

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897. Kings of King: It (2017)

Sarah and Bridgett discuss how the fears of adults and the fears of children are different (and the same). How we can reason our ways out of things and how irrational fears persist. Also, how children do not fear death and that means we should fear them.

Rough Stuff: https://www.instagram.com/bspodcasting/
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898. Rough Stuff: Childhood Fears

Anything worth doing is better done with other people, to paraphrase Mariame Kaba. This week, we're talking a lot about the collaboration that goes into making art. Brendan and Chris tell some songwriting stories, and later shoutout readers at lit mags. In between, Chris sits down virtually with author Lincoln Michel to talk stealing time to write, reading contemporary novels, and secret focaccia.

Buy Metallic Realms here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Metallic-Realms/Lincoln-Michel/9781668058671

Check out Lincoln's blog: https://countercraft.substack.com/

The L&E website, including the Shipwrecked Sailor blog: https://www.lazyandentitled.org/

The blog Chris referenced about Spencer writing a song: https://www.lazyandentitled.org/?p=152151897

Shipwrecked Sailor music: https://shipwreckedsailor.bandcamp.com/

B & The Shipwrecked Sailor: https://bandtheshipwreckedsailor.bandcamp.com/album/weight-of-an-anchor

B & The Nothingness: https://bandthenothingness.bandcamp.com/

Drifting Between Nebulae With Lincoln Michel

We Just Watched... In the Mouth of Madness

Topics Include: Marty Supreme, Adulthood, Swiped, The Cut, Steve, Task, Highest 2 Lowest, Dream Eater, the next Rambo film, and the Mortuary Assistant.

Hypecast - 8.15.2025 - Featuring Bridgett Greenberg

Michael and Abe, very white dudes, discuss the themes, execution, and techniques of Ryan Coogler’s Sinners. Movie’s pretty good. 

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900. Frame Rate: Sinners

We Just Watched... Nobody 2

Michael and Abe discuss the recent Ice Cube vehicle, War of the Worlds. A screenlife movie where Cube saves the planet from the safety of his Amazon-brand life pod, using corporations to save humanity. It’s recently gone viral for being terrible, so we figured we’d go for that sweet viral money. 

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