For this conversation, I have the pleasure of talking with Jonathan Moore, Matt Martin, and Jennifer Martin from NorthRock Church in San Antonio, Texas. They’ve all been together for over ten years now, and longevity in ministry and leadership is one of the most impressive things to me. So the big idea of the conversation is simple. Why did you stay?

S5 Ep 133 // Why Did We Stay? with the NorthRock Church Team

“Why we should have left, why we choose to stay.” That is in Natalie Runion’s Instagram bio, and that is what her heart is for any time you hear her speak or, more likely, read the words she has written. You probably know her as “Raised to Stay,” but she started with a passion for seeing people go the distance in ministry. She joins me to have a conversation about church hurt.

S5 Ep. 134 // Natalie Runion (Raised to Stay) on Walking Through Church Hurt

In what has become a bit of a tradition for the Leading Second Podcast, we are closing out our season with one last conversation at the end of the year in hopes of fueling the start of your next year! Few topics are more important to Lindsay and me than family and ministry. Getting this wrong is one of the quickest ways to be taken out, so we wanted to break down some of our top rhythms for this.

S5 Ep. 135 // Top Family & Ministry Rhythms for 2023 with Brandon & Lindsay Stewart

We begin 2023 with the honor of hearing from three strong, wise, and insightful Second Chair Leaders. We’re joined by Kyle Heinecke, Campus Pastor at Fresh Life Church, Kalispell, MT; Jennifer Martin, Executive Pastor of Ministries at NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX; and Dillon Ritchie, Ministry Executive Director at CoastLife Church in Venice, FL. This is the Year of the Leader at Leading Second and today we are focusing on how to be strong leaders and how to develop strong leaders around us.

The Year of the Leader | A Pre-Season Conversation with Brandon Stewart

Leading Second exists to equip local churches everywhere to raise up UNCOMMON leaders. In a culture that often celebrates individual achievement and being on top, Leading Second is here to raise up the kind of leaders every pastor would kill to have on the team. Leaders who are all-in, heart and soul for Jesus, His Church, and their team’s mission.

In an ever changing world, we have conversations in real-time with pastors and leaders on topics such as church leadership, leading when you’re not in charge, healthy team culture, and how to lead in the second chair.

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THE LEADING SECOND CREED

I’m a Christ follower, called to build the local church. I am a leader serving a vision bigger than myself. I champion the uncommon realm of honor, where my Pastor’s vision is my vision. I own it. My personal success is second to my church’s success. I will die to self daily to see the Church move forward. I stand on the shoulders of those who have gone before me and surrendered their lives. I will do the same. I will give every ounce of my life to this work, with no regard for credit, positions or titles. I will leverage all of my influence for the cause of Christ, to see His Kingdom come and His will be done on earth as it is in Heaven. I am an UNCOMMON church builder. I am LEADING SECOND.

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