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At one time, they inhabited 40,000 square miles within the Appalachian Mountains. But in 1835, 12,000 of their people were gathered and placed into stockades until it was time for their removal away from their homelands. 

The journey took 6 to 7 months, killing 2,000 of their people on what is now termed “The Trail of Tears”.

Today, they are the largest tribe in the United States, with 440,000 members. They are the Cherokee people, and their endurance and strength continues on today. 

Here to talk with us is my guest, Jack Baker, a Cherokee and President of the Board of the National Trail of Tears Association, past president of the Oklahoma Historical Society board, past board member of the Cherokee National Historical Society, and more. Jack’s extensive Cherokee research for over forty years resulted in authoring various articles, editing books on Cherokee history, and assisting with various documentaries on Cherokee history.

Learn more in this episode about: 
•	The history of the Cherokee 
•	The Trail of Tears and the graves left along the way
•	Jack’s own ancestral stories
•	Growing up with no electricity on his grandad’s Cherokee allotment in Oklahoma
•	How his 2-room school had only 16 students
•	Our “geeking out” over our love of research
•	Jack’s library with 700 books related to the Cherokee
•	Stories of his “guerilla warfare” research and hanging out in the archives with Angie Debo and Rella Looney (Rella manually indexed all the archives)! 

By the way, Jack references a book that you can see on the video on YouTube, but if you’re listening only, the book referenced is “The Journal of Reverend Daniel S. Butrick, Cherokee Removal”. 

May we never forget the Cherokee, the Trail of Tears, and the resilience of our ancestors. 

Wado, Jack for your many years of research and for sharing your expertise with us! 

Learn more about the National Trail of Tears Association here: https://nationaltota.com/

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S4, E17, Pt1: Jack D. Baker (Cherokee) on the Trail of Tears and the Strength of the Cherokee People

His name is Barry Friedman and he’s been collecting supplying 100-year-old Pendletons since 1969. In fact, he was the supplier of 60 period Pendleton blankets for the movie, “Killers of the Flower Moon”.

Although Barry isn’t a Pendleton employee, he is the vintage blanket consultant to Pendleton Woolen Mills, and Ralph Lauren himself has been a customer of Barry’s for over 30 years. He also sells museum quality blankets to private collectors and has been instrumental in helping to form the most important collections in the world. 

In addition to being an appraiser, consultant and seller of these historical blankets, he’s also the author of the book, “Chasing Rainbows: Collecting American Indian Trade & Camp Blankets” and its sequel, “Still Chasing Rainbows”.

In this episode, you’ll learn about:
•	The history of the Pendleton blanket
•	The surprising history of the patterns on the blankets 
•	What became of the blankets after Killers of the Flower Moon
•	Round-corner Pendleton blankets (hint: if you have one, keep it!)
•	Barry’s former career as a comedy writer in Hollywood, and as a Columnist and radio personality

Note: I encourage those of you who aren’t quite fans of Pendleton (due to their not being a Native-owned company) to listen to this episode too…I think you’ll still find it interesting.

I’d also like to share the beautiful work of Native-owned Eighth Generation – check them out here: https://eighthgeneration.com/

Barry’s collection is the largest in the world and can be viewed in Phoenix, Arizona by appointment. Call, text (480)-309-4697 or e-mail at blanketboy@cox.net to make arrangements.

Website: www.barryfriedmanblankets.com 

Social Media:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/barryfriedmanindianblankets/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BarryFriedmanIndianBlankets


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S6, E7, Pt1 Barry Friedman on The Pendleton Blanket and the Stories and History Woven Within, Part 1

His name is Barry Friedman and he’s been collecting supplying 100-year-old Pendletons since 1969. In fact, he was the supplier of 60 period Pendleton for the movie, “Killers of the Flower Moon”.

Although Barry isn’t a Pendleton employee, he is the vintage blanket consultant to Pendleton Woolen Mills, and Ralph Lauren himself has been a customer of Barry’s for over 30 years. He also sells museum quality blankets to private collectors and has been instrumental in helping to form the most important collections in the world. 

In addition to being an appraiser, consultant and seller of these Pendleton blankets, he’s also the author of “Chasing Rainbows: Collecting American Indian Trade & Camp Blankets” and its sequel, “Still Chasing Rainbows”.

In this episode, you’ll learn about:
•	The history of the Pendleton blanket
•	The case of the cursed Pendleton blanket
•	The surprising history of the patterns on the blankets 
•	What happened to the blankets after Killers of the Flower Moon
•	Round-corner Pendleton blankets (hint: if you have one, keep it!)
•	Barry’s former career as a comedy writer in Hollywood, and as a Columnist and radio personality

Note: I encourage those of you who aren’t quite fans of Pendleton because it’s not a Native-owned company, to listen to this episode…I think you’ll still find it interesting.

I’d also like to share the beautiful work of Native-owned Eight Generation – check them out here: https://eighthgeneration.com/

Barry’s collection is the largest in the world and can be viewed in Phoenix, Arizona by appointment. Call, text (480)-309-4697 or e-mail at blanketboy@cox.net to make arrangements.

Website: www.barryfriedmanblankets.com 

Social Media:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/barryfriedmanindianblankets/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BarryFriedmanIndianBlankets


Native ChocTalk Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/nativechoctalkpodcast 
All Podcast Episodes: https://nativechoctalk.com/podcasts/

S6, E7, Pt2 Barry Friedman on The Pendleton Blanket and the Stories and History Woven Within, Part 2

[2 Or 3] Witnesses

Silent and somber, the two boys stood before the doorstep, memories flooding their minds like a rushing river. They recalled the gentle cadence of their mother's voice as she paused to listen to the whippoorwills' melodies in the trees. Each note seemed to echo the warmth of her presence, now painfully absent.

Their thoughts drifted to the countless afternoons spent playing in the sweltering heat, only to be welcomed inside by their mother's loving embrace and a cool glass of lemonade. The memory of her unwavering care lingered in the air, a poignant reminder of all they had lost.

And then there were her nightly prayers, whispered in the sacred tongue of the Kiowa, the absence of her soothing words now leaving an ache in their souls, a void impossible to fill.

Join me, as Blas Preciado, a Kiowa Veteran shares the oral history of his ancestors, as well as his heartbreaking, yet inspiring story. 

In this episode you’ll learn about:
•	Those who came before us, like Viejo, Red Thunder and Grass Carrier
•	The history and the language of the Kiowa
•	The Massacre of Cutthroat Gap
•	KCA: The history of the Kiowa, Comanche and Apache coming together
•	The “Indian Beverly Hillbillies”
•	Blas and his brother living alone in their home after the death of their mother
•	Facing trauma head-on with support, therapy and faith in God

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Season 6, Episode 8: God in the Song of the Whippoorwills: Blas Preciado, Kiowa

A DJ's journey into sound: I claim no rights to the samples used in this song. For listening purposes only.

Wanna Tell Ya

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In the heart of our journey, where tales of the past and tradition intertwine with preservation, we stand on the cusp of a milestone today—a celebration of 100 stories of those who came before us here on Native ChocTalk, A Podcast by Natives for All. 
Welcome, dear listeners, to a momentous occasion—a testament to the power of storytelling, to the resilience of culture, and to the unwavering spirit of our Native American people. Today, we embark on a journey of reflection and gratitude, as we celebrate our history.
I hope you’ll enjoy this 2-part celebration of Native ChocTalk’s 100th Episode! 
In parts 1 and 2, my husband Nic and our doggo, Taloa, join me in walking through clips of episodes from seasons 1 through 5. You'll also discover some behind-the-scenes fun facts and get to know more about my own little family too!

If you’d like to join us in the celebration, feel free to shop my “Celebration Yvnvsh” t-shirts on Café Press here (a portion of proceeds goes toward Native causes): https://www.cafepress.com/nativechoctalkshop/17448261

I’d like to sincerely thank all of you listeners for joining me throughout this journey of Native American storytelling – I can’t thank you enough for your support.

Yakoke, my friends!

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S6, E9, Pt 1, The Preservation of 100 Stories: Native ChocTalk’s 100th Episode!

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In the heart of our journey, where tales of the past and tradition intertwine with preservation, we stand on the cusp of a milestone today—a celebration of 100 stories of those who came before us here on Native ChocTalk, A Podcast by Natives for All. 
Welcome, dear listeners, to a momentous occasion—a testament to the power of storytelling, to the resilience of culture, and to the unwavering spirit of our Native American people. Today, we embark on a journey of reflection and gratitude, as we celebrate our history.
I hope you’ll enjoy this 2-part celebration of Native ChocTalk’s 100th Episode! 
In parts 1 and 2, my husband Nic and our doggo, Taloa, join me in walking through clips of episodes from seasons 1 through 5. You'll also discover some behind-the-scenes fun facts and get to know more about my own little family too!

If you’d like to join us in the celebration, feel free to shop my “Celebration Yvnvsh” t-shirts on Café Press here (a portion of proceeds goes toward Native causes): https://www.cafepress.com/nativechoctalkshop/17448261

I’d like to sincerely thank all of you listeners for joining me throughout this journey of Native American storytelling – I can’t thank you enough for your support.

Yakoke, my friends!

Native ChocTalk Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/nativechoctalkpodcast 
All Podcast Episodes: https://nativechoctalk.com/podcasts/

S6, E9, Part 2, The Preservation of 100 Stories: Native ChocTalk’s 100th Episode!

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S4, E17, Pt1: Jack D. Baker (Cherokee) on the Trail of Tears and the Strength of the Cherokee People

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