Noelle Janka and Jeremy Blanchard are life coaches who support movement leaders and changemakers. They attended the July 2018 Emergent Strategy Immersion with writer, facilitator, and pleasure activist adrienne maree brown. In this conversation they discuss their impressions of the immersion, what they learned, and what they appreciated about being some of the only white folks in the room.

This is not a great recording and wearing headphones is recommended.