From his radical youth in 1970s Italy to his research as one of the world's leading theoretical physicists, Carlo Rovelli is as comfortable talking politics as he is explaining quantum theory.

He sat down with Aaron to talk about the future of Europe, his theory of white holes, and why we're not actually living in a simulation. His book White Holes: Inside The Horizon is available from Penguin.

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Downstream: White Holes and Radical Politics w/ Carlo Rovelli

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Downstream: White Holes and Radical Politics w/ Carlo Rovelli

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