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In April 2021, the European Union unveiled a proposal for unprecedented regulations on the use of AI technologies — with implications for companies, governments, and citizens alike. The tide seems to be shifting, with private companies facing increasing scrutiny. We will hear how regulation can promote innovation, and how citizens can be brought into the discussion.

This episode is the second in a series on artificial intelligence, brought to you by the OECD’s Global Parliamentary Network and the European Parliament’s Panel for the Future of Science and Technology (STOA).

Guests: Deirdre Clune, Lina Galvez Munoz, Andrea Renda
Host: Karina Piser
Producer: Samia Basille

To learn more about the EU Parliament’s Panel for the Future of Science and Technology’s work on AI, go to: www.europarl.europa.eu/stoa/en/home/highlights

To learn more about the OECD’s work on AI, go to: oecd.ai

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Artificial Intelligence: Regulation Can Support Innovation

If a self-driving car gets into an accident, who’s to blame — the person in the car, or the technology powering the vehicle? What about the manufacturer? If an automated job-search tool discriminates based on race or gender, who’s at fault — the software, or the company? We look at the complex ethical challenges central to AI, the fundamental philosophical questions — about human’s relationship with technology — and more practical concerns, about how to best regulate these new tools.

This is the final episode in a series on artificial intelligence, brought to you by the OECD’s Global Parliamentary Network and the European Parliament’s Panel for the Future of Science and Technology (STOA).

Guests: Anna-Michelle Asimakopoulou , Lorena Jaume-Palasi, 
Host: Karina Piser
Producer: Samia Basille

To learn more about the EU Parliament’s Panel for the Future of Science and Technology’s work on AI, go to: www.europarl.europa.eu/stoa/en/home/highlights

To learn more about the OECD’s work on AI, go to: oecd.ai

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Artificial Intelligence: Managing the ethical challenges

AI is everywhere, bringing many benefits but also reinforcing unfairness, misinformation and privacy invasion. What steps need to be taken to keep these risks in check? We find these answers and more, in our conversations with Karine Perset, head of the AI unit of the OECD Division for Digital Economy Policy and the OECD Policy Observatory and Dr Sebastian Hallensleben, co-chair of the AI Classification and Risk Assessment Working Group in OECD. 

For more information on the OECD's work on AI, go to www.oecd.ai/classification

Host: Christopher Mooney
Guests: Karine Perset, head of the AI unit of the OECD Division for Digital Economy Policy and the OECD Policy Observatory  
Dr Sebastian Hallensleben, co-chair of the AI Classification and Risk Assessment Working Group in OECD
Producer: Samia Basille

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Know Thy AI: Assessing the risks of Artificial Intelligence

The gender equality gap in the tech industry has worsened in the last 40 years.  
How can we lessen this the divide and make the tech industry more welcoming for everyone? We speak with Ayumi Moore Aoki, founder of Women in Tech,  a global  organization aiming to eliminate the gender digital divide by helping women learn digital skills, get hired in tech jobs and become leaders in the tech industry. 

Host: Robin Allison Davis
Guest: Ayumi Moore Aoki, CEO & Founder of Women in Tech 

To learn more about Women in Tech, go to: www.women-in-tech.org. To read the OECD report "Bridging the Digital Divide," go to: https://www.oecd.org/digital/more-needs-to-be-done-to-bridge-the-digital-gender-divide.htm

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Eliminating the digital gender divide with Women in Tech's Ayumi Moore Aoki

The European Parliament and Council are currently negotiating the Artificial Intelligence Act, which introduces common regulatory and legal framework for Artificial Intelligence (AI) in all domains except the military. However, the negotiations pose several challenges for legislators. How should the risk categories be established? Do they take into account unintended impacts of AI? What divergences between public and private sectors could emerge, and how can they be adressed? And how is the AI Act going to help protecting fundamental rights and values? 

We will answer these questions with Maria-Manuel Leitão-Marques, MEP from Portugal, who is the Vice-Chair of the Committee on the Internal Market and Consumer Protection and a member of the OECD Parliamentary Group on AI; and Ilina Georgieva, research scientist working on AI, cyber regulation and cyber norms at the Netherlands Organisation for Applied Scientific Research (TNO), an independent research organisation. 

This podcast is second in the 2022 series on Artificial intelligence, brought to you by the OECD’s Global Parliamentary Network and the European Parliament’s Panel for the Future of Science and Technology, also known as STOA.

Guests: Maria-Manuel Leitão-Marques, Ilina Georgieva
Host: Christopher Mooney

To learn more about Netherlands Organisation for Applied Scientific Research, go to https://www.tno.nl/en/
To learn more about the EU Parliament’s Panel for the Future of Science and Technology’s work on AI, go to: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/stoa/en/home/highlights
To learn more about the OECD Global Parliamentary Network, go to: https://www.oecd.org/parliamentarians/
To learn more about the OECD’s work on AI, go to: oecd.ai

The Artificial Intelligence Act: addressing the divergence between the public and private sectors

Artificial intelligence played a pivotal role during the COVID-19 pandemic, from hastening diagnoses to supporting contract tracing and more. In this sense, the pandemic has already shown us how A.I. can benefit healthcare. But this seems just the beginning of revolution. What else can be done? What are the limits and risks of using artificial intelligence in health care? And how can we best ensure that it is both effective and trustworthy? 

We’ll answer these questions with Lina Gálvez Muñoz, MEP from Spain, Vice Chair of the Committee on Industry, Research and Energy, member of the European Parliament’s Panel for the Future of Science and Technology (STOA) and of the OECD Parliamentary Group on AI; and Karim Lekadir, head of EUCanImage, a four year AI research project aimed at making advances in oncology which has 20 partners across 11 countries.

This podcast is first in a series in 2022 on Artificial intelligence, brought to you by the OECD’s Global Parliamentary Network and the European Parliament’s Panel for the Future of Science and Technology, also known as STOA.

Guests: Lina Gálvez-Muñoz, Karim Lekadir
Host: Robin Allison Davis
Producer: Samia Basille

To learn more about EUCanImage go to their website, EUCanImage.eu.
To learn more about the EU Parliament’s Panel for the Future of Science and Technology’s work on AI, go to: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/stoa/en/home/highlights
To learn more about the OECD Global Parliamentary Network, go to: https://www.oecd.org/parliamentarians/
To learn more about the OECD’s work on AI, go to: oecd.ai

AI is poised to revolutionise healthcare. Building trust will be key.

While the European Union is developing the Data Act, the Data Governance Act and the Artificial Intelligence (AI) Act, the issue of the data governance remains at the fore. In today’s podcast, we will try to answer some of these questions: What are the policy options for Europe’s data governance framework, especially with regard to AI, that align with a data justice perspective? How to foster a positive vision of AI as contributing to public goods and creating public value? How to recognise the rights and interests of different communities in data? To what extend is it possible to foresee risks and vulnerabilities when legislating on digital?

We will address these questions with the help of Pernille Weiss, Member of the European Parliament’s  Committees on Industry, Research and Energy and on the Environment, Public Health and Food Safety, and Linnet Taylor, Associate Professor of Data Ethics, Law and Policy at the Tilburg Institute for Law, Technology, and Society (TILT), where she leads the Global Data Justice project. 


This podcast is third in the 2022 podcast series on Artificial intelligence brought to you by the OECD’s Global Parliamentary Network and the European Parliament’s Panel for the Future of Science and Technology, also known as STOA.


Guests: Linnet Taylor, Pernille Weiss
Host: Christopher Mooney
Producer: Samia Basille


To learn more about the European Parliament’s Panel for the Future of Science and Technology’s work on AI, go to: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/stoa/en/home/highlights
To learn more about the OECD Global Parliamentary Network, go to: https://www.oecd.org/parliamentarians/
To learn more about the OECD’s work on AI, go to: oecd.ai

Governing data and AI for all: which model for a sustainable and just data governance?

As technology continues to advance, we're more connected than ever. But with more benefits also come more risks. How can we ensure that we are protected from digital threats? In December 2022, the OECD released its Digital Security Recommendations to help keep individuals, businesses and governments secure online. Audrey Plonk, head of Digital Economy Policy division for the OECD's Science, Technology and Innovation Directorate, explains the Digital Security Recommendations and what they hope to achieve. 

To learn more about the OECD’s work on digital security, go to: www.oecd.org/digital/digital-security. 

Guest: Audrey Plonk, head of Digital Economy Policy division for OECD Science, Technology and Innovation Directorate
Host: Robin Allison Davis
Producer: Samia Basille

From raising awareness to changing policies: The OECD’s Digital Security Recommendations explained

Women’s pay has been catching up to men’s since 1968 but women still earn 49 cents to every dollar men make. And that’s been true for the past 15 years. 

How can women achieve equal pay for equal value? Zara Nanu, the co-founder and CEO of Gapsquare, is counting on algorithms.   

For more information go to: 
http://www.oecd.org/gender/

Host: Clara Young
Producer: Robin Allison Davis

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Cracking the glass ceiling on wages: Gapsquare CEO Zara Nanu

Machines are learning but who’s teaching them? You, me but also legions of microworkers all over the world.  Antonio Casilli is associate professor in digital humanities at Télécom ParisTech and researcher at the Edgar Morin Centre of the School for Advanced Studies in the Social Sciences.

Host: Clara Young
Producer: Robin Allison Davis

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The hidden underbelly of the digital economy–sociologist Antonio Casilli weighs in.

At age 15, 5% of boys in OECD countries want to work in information technology (ICT). And girls? 0.5%. With society digitalising fast and the current gender gap in science/technology/engineering/maths (STEM) widening, the future still looks to be a “man’s, man’s, man’s world”. But Gabriela Ramos, OECD Chief of Staff and Sherpa to the G20, is betting against James Brown. She urges girls to set their ambitions high and calls on policy makers to break down the policy barriers that are holding women back.

For more information go to: 
www.oecd.org/gender/

Host: Kate Lancaster
Sound engineer: Borja Ortuzar 

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Gender equality? OECD’s Gabriela Ramos says, “Yes, girls can.”

Most people spend their evenings kicking back with a book or whatever’s on Netflix. In Finland, they’re teaching themselves artificial intelligence (AI). Computer scientist Teemu Roos talks about the easy-to-follow massive online course on machine learning he designed with tech firm Reaktor. And which the Finnish government bank-rolled. Teemu Roos is Associate Professor of Computer Science at the University of Helsinki. 

For more information, go to: 
https://www.oecd.org/science
https://www.elementsofai.com/

Host: Clara Young    
Producer: Robin Allison Davis

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Why everyone in Finland’s teaching themselves AI. Teemu Roos, U of Helsinki, tells us.

The wisdom of crowds? Geoff Mulgan, Chief Executive of the National Endowment for Science Technology and the Arts in the UK, discusses the crowdsourcing power behind platforms like Wikipedia and Google maps. And how well-designed collective intelligence can revolutionise healthcare, sustainable development and much, much more.

For more information go to:
http://www.oecd.org/sti/

Host: Clara Young
Producer: Robin Allison Davis 

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Seven billion heads are better than one: Geoff Mulgan on collective intelligence

Modern life is digital and fast. Democracy is analogue and slow, and cracks are showing in the system. Young people are blasé about voting, many distrust government, and extremism and populism are bubbling up. Jamie Bartlett is the author of The People vs Tech and the former head of the Centre for the Analysis of Social Media at the think tank, Demos. He says that international cooperation on cybersecurity and private sector ingenuity can help reboot democracy.

Host: Clara Young
Producer: Robin Allison Davis

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Democracy needs an upgrade says Jamie Bartlett

Technology can be scary - are our digital assistants spying on us? Will robots steal our jobs? Change is challenging, says Sodexo's Belen Moscoso del Prado, but technology itself isn't to blame. How we use technology is what matters - and it can be positive force for people and companies alike. She explains how Sodexo - like many firms today - is adapting to the digital transformation and what this has meant for the company, its employees and clients.

Host: Kate Lancaster
Producer: Robin Allison Davis

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We need to demystify digitalisation, says Belen Moscoso del Prado

In a world where machines can do more and more, what skills and knowledge will today’s children need in order to be prepared for the jobs of tomorrow? The OECD’s Andreas Schleicher says that AI and tech can make our lives and work a lot more rewarding and interesting – if we are prepared. We need to think about how human skills can complement those of machines, rather than try to do what they do. And we need to talk a lot less about education that ends at the school door and a lot more about how to give people the capacity and motivation to continue learning, to continue to expand their horizon every day. 

For more information on education, go to: 
http://www.oecd.org/education/
https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/education

Host: Kate Lancaster
Producer: Robin Allison Davis

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First-class humans, not second-class robots – Andreas Schleicher on learning and the future of work

Work as we know it will never be the same. In fact, it already isn’t the same for some people. According to the OECD, 14% of jobs in OECD countries are highly automatable – another 32% of jobs could be substantially changed in how they’re carried out.

Matthew Taylor discusses some ideas on how to extend the social security net to platform workers and how he thinks the general landscape of employment will evolve. Mr Taylor is the chief executive of the Royal Society for the Encouragement of Arts, Manufactures and Commerce (RSA). His 2017 review on modern employment, "Good Work”,  was commissioned by the UK prime minister.

To hear more from Matthew Taylor, watch our interview on YouTube: https://youtu.be/RXKZrIECqXc

Host: Clara Young
Producer: Robin Allison Davis

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Robojobs: Matthew Taylor on the future of work

Until 1984, computer science in the US was full of women mathematicians and programmers, and then it all changed. What happened?  Claire L. Evans, author of the book, Broad Band: The Untold Story of Women Who Made the Internet, tells a story that hadn't been told before of the many women who helped found and formed the internet-- women like Ada Lovelace, the original mother of computing, and Dame Wendy Hall, who invented a new system of hypertext that could have changed the way the World Wide Web functions.

Host: Clara Young
Producer: Robin Allison Davis

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Claire Evans on how women made the internet

In an ideal market economy, there are lots of companies of roughly the same size who compete against each other. Consumers benefit from choice and lower prices. In today's digital economy, however, there are a small number of extremely powerful tech companies, and evidence that competition is not what it should be. Casper Klynge, Denmark's – and the world's – first tech ambassador, explains.

Host: Clara Young
Producer: Robin Allison Davis

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Getting Big Tech to play fair: Denmark’s Casper Klynge

There are many forces at work splintering the digital public sphere. Automated bots flood the internet with disinformation, creating confusion. Online abuse is another way of shutting down civil dialogue. Seyi Akiwowo is a crusader for a safer cyberspace. She founded Glitch in 2017 after enduring online abuse.

www.fixtheglitch.org

Host: Clara Young
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Trolling, doxxing & swatting: how online abuse is destroying the civic cybersphere

How can we all help shape better policies for better lives? OECD Podcasts bring you insightful interviews with experts and well-known personalities on such pressing challenges as inequality and inclusive growth, the economy, jobs, the digital transformation, climate change, the environment, education, healthcare, tax, trade, international co-operation, and more.


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