Learning is so easy to do with this kind of interview. Thank you Ruby Sales for such a profound question (Where Does It Hurt?) and thank you Krista Tippett for this amazing discussion. I sit at the knees and listen.

She really lands this beautifully! So important! Thank you!

Thank you, Ruby. I had not thought about that theology needs to liberate all people.

there is a white theology there is a black theology there is a theology for all races. it called the cross who goves himself continually to the faithful througj redemptive suffering for the love and good of the other. this is the basis of christianity and in specifically catholicism, the aporitual and physical exists side by side not segregated into defined theologies apecific to race. I feel this is dangerous. 

I live this same struggle in the violence of our city today.  I pray to God, "How do we transform this cognitive dissonance?"  So I look to what God puts in front of me everyday and where he wants me to be of service.  And yet still, some days, my heart breaks, because I wish I could do more.

Where does it hurt? That’s a question the civil rights icon Ruby Sales learned to ask during the days of that movement. It’s a question we scarcely know how to ask in public life now but it gets at human dynamics that we are living and reckoning with. At a convening of 20 theologians seeking to reimagine the public good of theology for this century, Ruby Sales demythologizes some presumptions about the religious nature of civil rights history. She says the “spiritual crisis of white America” must be honored if there is to be real advance across racial lines.

Ruby Sales — Where Does It Hurt?

Poem text and context: https://www.brainpickings.org/2021/05/28/emily-dickinson-grief/

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"I measure every Grief I meet" (Maria Popova reads Emily Dickinson)

Kindly recorded for Brain Pickings. Poem text and context: https://www.brainpickings.org/2021/07/26/david-whyte-the-truelove

David Whyte reads his poem "The Truelove"

“Devotion” is a love song that takes the listener on a passionate journey of hope, desire, and nostalgia.

Kirsten Agresta Copely | Devotion | Classical

Here you can listen to Derek Walcott's poem recited by Kabat-Zinn, saying a prose statement was "bound to be inadequate" in communicating his point.

Read the full poem at http://www.onbeing.org/program/opening-our-lives/138

"Love After Love" by Derek Walcott (Read by Jon Kabat-Zinn)

Background and poem text: http://www.brainpickings.org/2014/09/24/mary-oliver-reads-wild-geese/

Recorded by the Lannan Foundation in 2001.

DETAILS / POEM TEXT

Mary Oliver reads "Wild Geese"

Roy Smila | Kamancha

Refael Ben-Zichry | Percussions

Gad Tidhar | Oud

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Yizhak Ventura | Nay

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David Whyte reads his poem "Sweet Darkness."

Find more at www.onbeing.org/program/david-whyte-the-conversational-nature-of-reality/8560

"Sweet Darkness" by David Whyte

Ruby Sales is the founder and director of the Spirit House Project. She is one of 50 African Americans to be spotlighted in the new Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture in Washington D.C. This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode "Ruby Sales — Where Does it Hurt" Find more at onbeing.org.

On Being with Krista Tippett

[Unedited] Ruby Sales with Krista Tippett

Where does it hurt? That’s a question the civil rights icon Ruby Sales learned to ask during the days of that movement. It’s a question we scarcely know how to ask in public life now, but it gets at human dynamics that we are living and reckoning with. At a convening of 20 theologians seeking to reimagine the public good of theology for this century, Ruby Sales unsettles some of what we think we know about the force of religion in civil rights history, and names a “spiritual crisis of white America” as a calling of this time.

Ruby Sales — Where Does It Hurt?

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Poem text and context: https://www.brainpickings.org/2020/08/19/david-whyte-sometimes/

David Whyte Reads "Sometimes"

Groundbreaking Peabody Award-winning conversation about the big questions of meaning, hosted by Krista Tippett. Every Thursday a new discovery about the immensity of our lives — and frequent special features like poetry, music and Q + A with Krista.

Ruby Sales — Where Does It Hurt?

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