Jessica Abel on how artists and creative workers must put their work at the center of their lives, and what they're up against when they try.

Produced by Hillary Rea for Tell Me A Story https://tellmeastory.info
Music by Matt Madden https://soundcloud.com/mattmadd/sets/recent-songs

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What does it mean to be an Autonomous Creative?

In Episode 8: Your Baby's Ugly we talk a lot about how we edited Episode 7: Dark Forest into into its final form with the help of Jess Jiang and Robert Smith of Planet Money. We wanted to share that process, so here's our original mix of episode 7, which we sent to Jess and Robert, their edit meeting with us, and the final version of episode 7. Enjoy!

Rough mix: Episode 7: Dark Forest

Out on the Wire is the show about making stories, step by step. Join cartoonist Jessica Abel as she breaks down the principles of storytelling and puts you on the path to crafting your own story—in prose, comics, audio, video—in any narrative art form, fiction or nonfiction. Featuring radio and podcasting star producers from This American Life, Radiolab, Planet Money, Snap Judgment, and many more. Listen, learn, and collaborate with us to make something great. 


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