Small church expert, Karl Vaters, talks about what it means to have a healthy church of any size. ​Karl's heart is to help pastors of small churches (up to 90 percent of us) find the resources to lead well, and to capitalize on the unique advantages that come with pastoring a small church.

Karl also hosts a bi-weekly podcast, The Church Lobby: Conversations on Faith & Ministry. Episodes feature in-depth interviews about the topics that concern pastors, especially those who minister in a small church context.

Today, he talks with us about the critical difference between feeling satisfied and feeling settled - and why it matters for healthy churches.

​Listen to episode 326 (on our brand new website)! Or wherever you get your podcasts.

RL 326: Karl Vaters and the Secret to Healthy Churches (of any size)

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