In Episode 740 of Safety FM with Jay Allen, we dive deep into a critical question: Are we training people for the real world, or just for the checkbox version of it?

Dr. Jay Allen challenges the traditional safety and organizational training models that rely on unrealistic simulations and one-off learning events. Drawing on insights from The Signal Transmission Trilogy, Jay examines how we expect people to respond perfectly in chaos—based on training delivered in sterile, artificial environments they've never actually encountered.

This episode explores:

Why core principles matter more than memorized protocols

The difference between reactive behavior and principled decision-making

How military, martial arts, and sports training tie into organizational learning

The real meaning of “adaptability” in high-stakes environments

If your safety program still treats training as a one-and-done checklist, this episode might sting a little—but it’s a necessary wake-up call.

🔊 Listen now for a raw, reflective breakdown on why we need to stop teaching safety like it’s a scripted rehearsal—and start building real-world readiness.

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EP740 - Training for a World That Doesn’t Exist

Today on The Jay Allen Show, Jay speaks with Tricia Kagerer. She is a book author, a pioneer in the field, and the first female recipient of the CSP Award of Excellence presented by the BCSP. During the conversation, Tricia discusses her career, how she got to where she is now, and how The B Words' concept came about.

Enjoy it today on The Jay Allen Show.

Safety FM would like to thank Air Med Care for being the signature sponsor of this episode!

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