Celebrity chef Marcus Samuelsson -- of Red Rooster in New York -- tells Katherine about his own immigrant experience, and why his neighborhood Harlem is Donald Trump's worst nightmare. The dish he discusses, beef kitfo, has spiritual meaning in Ethiopia, and Marcus and his wife Maya served it at their wedding. Oh, and guess who taught Marcus how to make fried chicken? 

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Beef Kitfo with Marcus Samuelsson

Anthony Bourdain joins us to talk about the metaphysics of good bread and booze, Scottish martial arts, and family-friendly strip clubs.

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Whisky with Anthony Bourdain

You're The Worst writer Eva Anderson has very specific memories about pecan pie, mostly revolving around Wicca and menstruation. She and Katherine have known each other since middle school, and they talk about sleeping under a tarp in Joshua Tree, and why growing up in Washington will make you think the only pie is blackberry pie.

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Pecan Pie with Eva Anderson

Man-about-town Mike Mitchell, aka Mitch, aka Spoonman, comes over from Doughboys to tell us about family-wide pranks on delivery guys, his ideal TGIF lineup, and why he likes "Greek" pizza best. And did you know that the story you've heard about pizza's invention is a lie? 

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Pizza with Mike Mitchell

Is food ever "sexy"? That's gross, right? But also if the right person is eating with their hands it's hot? Yuck, we're animals! Writer and podcaster Margaret Wappler talks 1001 Arabian Nights, how to use preserved lemons, and being sexy in Hanoi on Vespas. Also, go buy her book so she can get that chocolate fountain: http://amzn.to/2kSd65i.

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Tagine with Margaret Wappler

Danny Trejo joined Katherine to talk about prison: when he was incarcerated vs. how it is now (a "warehouse of insanity"), using commissary for protection, and how bad the food is inside. Plus, clowning on Arnold Schwarzenegger. 

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Prison Food with Danny Trejo

Everything we thought we knew about food in the Victorian era was wrong!

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Victorian-Era Food with Diep Tran

San Antonio native Josef Centeno talks nachos, how the Mexican Revolution both split up and united his family, and blended margaritas in Paris. Plus, tips for preserving your spices! (And I was totally wrong about when Taco Bell was founded.)

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Tex-Mex with Josef Centeno

Gail Simmons is Canadian, so we compare the two Thanksgivings, and talk about beans, olives, root beer, her bold licorice choices, the phrase “soup to nuts,” and the mysteries of sweet potato casserole.

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Thanksgiving with Gail Simmons

Comedian Amy Miller talks Dust Bowl migration, the humiliation of eating chicken wings in public, Hooters, Catholic slurs, and swim-up bars.

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Buffalo Wings with Amy Miller

Alice Waters and Wolfgang Puck got a lot of credit for the 1970s birth of "California cuisine," but they couldn’t have done it without farmers actually growing that famous produce. Andrea Crawford supplied the lettuce - and has the scoop on the early days at Chez Panisse: communal living! Urban homesteading! ...Lawry’s Seasoned Salt!

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The Origins of "California Cuisine"  with Andrea Crawford

Bordeaux for everyone! The best dumplings on the planet with wine ambassador Anthony Cailan, plus providing people with alcohol, the dangers of this particular dumpling, and a quick history of modern Taiwan. 

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Xiao Long Bao, XLB, Soupy Dumplings with Anthony Cailan

Let's pull back the curtain on both blogging and traditional journalism. Media literacy, telling the story vs being the story, a tip for aspiring writers (it's not what they want to hear), and the truth about who's killing journalism, with blogger/writer/Instagrammer/snowboarder Esther Tseng.

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Writing vs Blogging with Esther Tseng

Freedom fries, Liberty cabbage, and the greatest American invention: cheeseburgers. Guest Neil Saavedra knows he's not Jesus, but he has opinions on the Impossible Burger, meat hygiene, and having an ass for radio.

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Cheeseburgers with Neil Saavedra

Lady Dynamite and Playing House star Lennon Parham on church cookbooks, Girl Scouts shenanigans, and the proper way to make sweet tea. Plus: why is it called "red velvet"?

Listeners: do you love or hate mayonnaise?

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Red Velvet Cake with Lennon Parham

School-night desserts, what a farmer means by “prune,” when almonds and peaches do it, and post-Civil War peach propaganda with comic, podcaster and AUTHOR Guy Branum.

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Peaches with Guy Branum

Benign masochism, messed-up spicy versus emotionally spicy, adrenaline rushes, gochujang, and “to kimchi” with chef Judy Joo. And her eating recommendations for London and Hong Kong. 

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Spicy Food with Judy Joo

"Old guard” food blogger Adam Roberts on transitioning to TV writing, 
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Pasta with Adam Roberts

“Blue zones” (it’s not political), Adventists vs heavy drinkers, cheap meat, and tomfoolery at the New York Times with Edgar Momplaisir. I propose that American Chinese is just one region of Chinese food, and we talk about the HBO show Deadwood a surprising amount. 

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American Chinese Food with Edgar Momplaisir

The feminist history of the trope “women be shopping.” What if the origin of the department store is the Old West general store? Plus the process of resurrecting old recipes, when manners are just a reflection of commerce, and hot lesbian fantasies. 

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Ladies Who Lunch with Valerie Gordon

Jacques Pepin, the legendary French chef who changed American cuisine, joined Katherine to remember when cheffing was a blue-collar job; turning down a job in the Kennedy White House; and his work with Julia Child. Plus, his childhood in occupied France, when clowning on Nazis was a hobby.

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A Chef's Life with Jacques Pepin

Desert mythologies, like Desert Sasquatch and Yucca Man (they’re different). The desert economy, and opening restaurants in a tourist town - if you're a resident, you might not eat at them. But still, if you're visiting Joshua Tree and Yucca Valley, Ken’s got some recommendations.

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Tourist Towns with Ken Layne

It is time to talk about banana pudding.

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Replay: Banana Pudding with Oriana Koren

New episode! Hayes Davenport talks about overwhelming menus, charging lobster to your father-in-law, and ye olde crab recipes. He also raises an interesting point: have my previous guests lied about their favorite food?

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Crab Cakes with Hayes Davenport

Steve Hernandez encourages us all to have a nice life, even knowing we’ll never retire. Dip-related Thanksgiving traditions, authentic factory-made foods, and the mysteries of ranch dressing - Hillary Clinton made a mistake. Plus! Dunkers versus dippers.

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Onion Dip with Steve Hernandez

Two questions: Is Maryland the north? Can you tell where someone’s from by what they put in their grits?

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Grits with Kelli Ferrell

“Meatloaf without basic training” aka Spam, had quite a journey in Korea, from symbol of privation to elegant gift. And there are so many flavors! 

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Spam with Helen Hong

Salami’s pretty funky.

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Salami with Allen Strickland Williams

One of the greatest desserts in the Austrian canon. No offense to House of Pies.

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Linzer Torte with Flula Borg

Ashley Blaine Featherson is here to tell you how to make the best meatloaf - and also how not to ruin it. 

Is scrapple a meatloaf?

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Meatloaf with Ashley Blaine Featherson

What is “silver cake”? Jessie Sheehan knows! My continued bafflement with GBBO, feminine foods, and alcohol in your cake. Do you buy Nabisco chocolate cookies and if so, for what purpose? 

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Icebox Cake with Jessie Sheehan

Is your appetite for chocolate ruined by the end of this? Or, can you recommend a source of ethical (like, actually ethical) chocolate? DeAnne Smith wants to know.

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Chocolate with DeAnne Smith

Oh, you thought you knew. Or at least I did, but turns out the history of Key lime pie isn't quite what I thought it was. Tell me: meringue or whipped cream?

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Key Lime Pie with Rebecca Leib

Today we talk generally about the start of the soda pop industry (unlicensed pharmacists! Cocaine everywhere!), and next week we'll (that's Katherine and Drew Mackie) get to listener-requested specifics. Ginger ale is so popular!

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https://www.pharmacytimes.com/contributor/karen-berger/2019/02/soda-fountains--their-pharmacist-inventors
http://www.historyofsoftdrinks.com/
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/the-toxic-history-of-soda-pop/
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/an-interview-with-pharmacy-drugstore-and-soda-fountain-antiques-collector-bill-soderlund/

Soda Pop: Part I

More soda pop madness! It's all about the moonshine mixers.

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Sources:
https://www.tastingtable.com/drinks/national/difference-between-ginger-beer-and-ginger-ale
https://www.esquire.com/food-drink/drinks/a26934763/best-ginger-ale-brands/
https://web.archive.org/web/20130624005710/http://www.canadiangeographic.ca/Magazine/JF02/canadianfoodfirsts.asp
https://www.fohbc.org/PDF_Files/GingerAle_Previtali.pdf
https://www.keurigdrpepper.com/en/our-brands
https://web.archive.org/web/20141010210120/http://www.knoxnews.com/knoxville/life/drinking-in-history
https://web.archive.org/web/20160205113023/http://www.frederickshome.net/mtdew/mtdew_smyth72794.htm
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-04-17/pepsico-aims-to-bring-urban-cool-to-mountain-dew-image-retail
https://web.archive.org/web/20101121125233/http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/entertainment/art_scene/index.php/2010/06/24/dew-tour-green-label-shop-series
https://mountaindew.fandom.com/wiki/Baja_Blast
https://money.cnn.com/2004/08/06/news/fortune500/pepsi/
https://www.tacobell.com/food/drinks/mountain-dew-baja-blast-freeze

Soda Pop Part II: Ginger Ale & Mountain Dew

Prince William! Teddy Savalas! Rockettes! They all have something do to with Diet Coke. Or "diet Coke," with a lower case d. Those Coca-Cola lawyers are DASTARDLY.

Listen to part two here: https://soundcloud.com/smartmouthpodcast/ginger-ale-vernors-mountain-dew-baja-blast

Listen to part one here: https://soundcloud.com/smartmouthpodcast/soda-pop-history-invented-7-up-lithium-pepsi

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Sources:
https://www.coca-colacompany.com/news/the-extraordinary-story-of-how-diet-coke-came-to-be
https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_880981
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28038988
https://culinarylore.com/drinks:what-was-the-first-diet-soda/

Soda Pop Part III: Diet Coke

How Italians and Americans use technology differently (it’s cultural), la dolce vita - but more importantly, dolce far niente - and the perfect Roman lunch. Plus a great mini-history on Jews in Rome. 

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Sources:
https://italoamericano.org/story/2018-11-29/trippa-romana
http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20180604-has-rome-declared-an-artichoke-war
https://www.eater.com/2018/5/9/17312188/what-is-roman-food-italian

La Dolce Vita with Erica Firpo

Secrets of Top Chef and how to fix the restaurant industry with Lee Anne Wong, Nini Nguyen, and Melissa King.

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An addictively illuminating, often hilarious, conversational podcast about the surprising histories behind the foods we love. // Hosted by independent journalist and food anthropologist, Katherine Spiers (LA Times, LA Weekly, KCET, Eater, How to Eat L.A.).

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