In part 1 of the ever tricky episode 4, I'm joined by Nat Cassidy! Topics include: horror origins, religion, dread, David Lynch, Stephen King, Get Out, Wild at Heart, the participatory nature of genre, Chekhov and The Ring, horror as an inclusive genre, and what it means to be a horror fan in general (and a lady horror fan in particular). Plus: how long before we bring up World War II, "Talkin' Podcasts with Nat and Sarah," and roughly the exact amount of Nic Cage talk you'd expect from the likes of me.

Episode 4: Every Good Story Is A Horror Story

Nat and I continue our conversation! Topics include: what does horror look like in this political climate?, the role of content creators, privilege, MRAs, internalized misogyny, Elliot Rodger, Aileen Wuornos, and horror as the refuge for the marginalized. Plus: Charles Manson is gonna be fine. And: dueling Dan Carlin impressions on another edition of Talkin' Podcasts with Nat and Sarah.

The Final Girl Podcast