Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 195th episode, our guest is Ruth Ben-Ghiat.
Ruth Ben-Ghiat is a historian, educator and commentator on fascism, authoritarian leaders and propaganda. She is Professor of History and Italian Studies at New York University and an Advisor to Protect Democracy. She writes for CNN and other media outlets, and her latest book, “Strongmen: From Mussolini to the Present,” which was published by Norton in 2020, examines the authoritarian playbook illiberal leaders have used for a century. Her Substack newsletter, Lucid, examines threats to democracy and how to counter them. Follow her on Twitter @ruthbenghiat.
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Ep. 195 - Ruth Ben-Ghiat

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 207th episode, our guest is Jonathan Malesic.
Jonathan Malesic is a writer and a former tenured college professor, sushi chef and parking lot attendant. His essays have been recognized as notable in Best American Essays (2019, 2020) and Best American Food Writing (2020) and have received special mention in the Pushcart Prize anthology (2019). His work has appeared in The New Republic, New York Times Magazine, The Washington Post, America, Commonweal, Notre Dame Magazine, The Hedgehog Review, Chronicle of Higher Education and elsewhere. He has been the recipient of major grants from the National Endowment for the Humanities and the Louisville Institute. His first book, “Secret Faith in the Public Square,” won a ForeWord INDIES gold medal for the religion category (2009). His next book, “The End of Burnout,” will be published by University of California Press on Friday, Dec. 10, 2021. He holds a Ph.D. from the University of Virginia and teaches writing at Southern Methodist University in Dallas.
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Ep. 207 - Jonathan Malesic

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 208th episode, our guest is John Leshy.
John Leshy became deeply involved with America's public lands soon after his graduation from Harvard College and Harvard Law School. He was solicitor for the U.S. Department of Interior from 1993 to 2001, is co-author of the standard textbook on public land and resources law, “Federal Public Land and Resources Law,”, and has written and lectured widely on public lands. He is emeritus professor, University of California Hastings College of Law, San Francisco. His new book, “Our Common Ground: A History of America's Public Lands,” will be published Feb. 8, 2022 by Yale University Press.
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Ep. 208 - John Leshy

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.

On this our 210th episode our guest is Frank Vogl.

Frank Vogl is the co-founder of one of the leading global organizations fighting corruption, Transparency International and the chairman of another, the Partnership for Transparency Fund. He teaches at Georgetown University, writes regular articles on corruption for The Globalist, and lectures extensively. As a former foreign correspondent—for Reuters and The Times of London — Vogl reported in the 1970s on corruption; in the 1980s as the World Bank’s chief spokesman, he saw the impact of government corruption in dozens of developing countries. For 25 years he ran a public relations firm that concentrated on international financial and economic policy. His last book was “Waging War on Corruption – Inside the Movement Fighting the Abuse of Power“ (published by Rowman & Littlefield). Frank is a former international journalist, senior World Bank official, and he owned and managed an international public relations firm for 25 years specializing in economics and finance. His latest book, “How the West Supports Kleptocrats and Corruption” was published Nov. 15, 2021 by Rowman & Littlefield.
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Ep. 210 - Frank Vogl

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 214th episode our returning guest is Ash Burgess.
You first heard Ash Burgess on Episode 16, Episode 26, Episode 27, Episode 39, Episode 58, Episode 63, Episode 77, Episode 86, Episode 91, Episode 100, Episode 124, Episode 130, Episode 136, Episode 142, Episode 143, Episode 148, Episode 151, Episode 154, Episode 165, Episode 176, Episode 184, Episode 191, Episode 196, Episode 198, Episode 203, Episode 209 and Episode 82, which also featured regular guest Jonathan Fowler of the podcast.
Ash Burgess has a dusty degree in Religious Studies and an appetite for both high and low culture. She strives to celebrate the best of every season with her young children.
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Ep. 214 - Ash Burgess [XXVI]

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.

On this our 216th episode our returning guests are Ash Burgess and Jonathan Fowler. You first heard Ash Burgess and Jonathan Fowler together in Ep. 82, recorded in 2017.

You first heard Ash Burgess on Ep. 16, Ep. 26, Ep. 27, Ep. 39, Ep. 58, Ep. 63, Ep. 77, Ep. 86, Ep. 91, Ep. 100, Ep. 124, Ep. 130, Ep. 136, Ep. 142, Ep. 143, Ep. 148, Ep. 151, Ep. 154, Ep. 165, Ep. 176, Ep. 184, Ep. 191, Ep. 196, Ep. 198, Ep. 203, Ep. 209 , Ep. 214 and Ep. 82, which also featured regular guest Jonathan Fowler of the podcast.

Ash Burgess has a dusty degree in Religious Studies and an appetite for both high and low culture. She strives to celebrate the best of every season with her young children.

Follow her on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/ashburgess/ and subscribe to her YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl2Bis7mhGmekVi0ZioJFOg?app=desktop

You first heard Jonathan Fowler on Ep. 2, Ep. 10, Ep. 20, Ep. 21, Ep. 29, Ep. 30, Ep. 31, Ep. 32, Ep. 34, Ep. 35, Ep. 43, Ep. 48, Ep. 51, Ep. 56, Ep. 64, Ep. 74, Ep. 83, Ep. 92, Ep. 102, Ep. 103, Ep. 104, Ep. 105, Ep. 106, Ep. 107, Ep. 108, Ep. 109, Ep. 111, Ep. 114, Ep. 115, Ep. 116, Ep. 119, Ep. 126, Ep. 127, Ep. 133, Ep. 137, Ep. 140, Ep. 146, Ep. 147, Ep. 149. Ep. 153, Ep. 156, Ep. 158, Ep. 160, Ep. 162, Ep. 164, Ep. 167, Ep. 168, Ep. 169, Ep. 172, Ep. 173, Ep. 174, Ep. 179, Ep. 180, Ep. 181, Ep. 185 and Ep. 82, also featuring fellow regular guest Ash Burgess of the podcast. 

Jonathan Fowler graduated with a BA in history from Indiana University in 2006. He is an unabashed left-wing political junkie. He has lived and worked in South Korea for over 10 years, trying to help the citizens of that great nation, hopefully, "talk pretty one day."

A quick programming note: This Ep. contains anywhere from passing mentions of to complete spoilers for the following books, TV shows and movies, in order of appearance:

“Yellowjackets” (TV)
“Lost” (TV)
“Severence” (TV)
“The Wilds” (TV)
“Dexter: New Blood” (TV)
“Red Rocket” (movie)
“The Florida Project” (movie)
“Tangerine” (movie)
“The Office” (TV)
“The Jungle Book” (movie)
“The Little Mermaid” (movie)
“Encanto” (movie)
“Frozen” (movie)
“Frozen II” (movie)
“Moana” (movie)
“Black Mirror” (TV)
“The Ultimatum” (TV)
“Love Is Blind” (TV)
“Don't Look Up” (movie)
“American Honey” (movie)
“Darling Girl” (book)
“Spring Breakers” (movie)
“Bridgerton” (TV)
“Succession” (TV)
“Boss Baby” (movie)
“Hamilton” (movie)
“Turning Red” (movie)
“The Lion King” (movie)
“Cats” (movie)
“Cast Away” (movie)
“The Walking Dead” (TV)
“365 Days” (movie)
“ 365 Days: This Day” (movie)
“One True Loves” (book)
“Daisy Jones and the Six” (book)
“The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo” (book)
“Gonzo: The Life of Hunter S. Thompson” (book)
“Seinfeld” (TV)
“You” (TV)
“Pitch Perfect” (movie)
“Parasite” (movie)
“Six Feet Under” (TV)
“The White Lotus” (TV)

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Ep. 216 - Ash Burgess and Jonathan Fowler [II]

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 218th episode, our guest is T. E. Breitenbach.
T. E. Breitenbach, born in 1951 in Queens, New York, is a self-taught American artist best known for his painting "Proverbidioms", a raucous and comical depiction of over 300 common proverbs and clichés. He also collaborated with Jim Morrison of The Doors, shortly before Morrison's 1971 death, on a painting intended for use on his "An American Prayer" album. T. E. was the youngest person to receive a Rome Prize Fellowship in visual arts. Inspired by the castles and museums of Europe, he returned home determined to build a castle-studio to house his art and eventually become a museum. During the planning stages he painted Proverbidioms and later published it. He also writes musicals and in 2016 produced "Hieronymus, A Musical Fantasy", the story of an artist with a 'too-large' imagination, available as play-on-demand on PBS. His websites include TEBreitenbach.com and OurMusical.com.
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Ep. 218 - T. E. Breitenbach

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.

On this our 224th episode, our guest is Tom Maxwell.

In the 1990s Tom was a member of the hot jazz indie band Squirrel Nut Zippers and wrote their hit song “Hell,” which peaked at no. 13 on the Billboard Hot 100 and propelled the band to multi-platinum status. The Zippers were inducted into the North Carolina Music Hall of Fame in 2021. After Tom left the Zippers, he composed for television and motion pictures.

Now Tom is a writer who specializes in creative nonfiction with an emphasis on music and musicians. He has contributed to Longreads, Al Jazeera America, Salon, Slate, The Oxford American, The Bitter Southerner, Tape Op, and AARP Magazine, among others. He is a faculty member of the North Carolina Writers Guild and a contributor to the National Recording Registry of the Library of Congress.

Along with his partner Brooklyn, Tom is the creator of Shelved, an Audible podcast produced by Gunpowder & Sky. He is currently writing A Really Strange and Wonderful Time, a nonfiction book about the '90s Chapel Hill music scene to be published by the Hachette Book Group in 2024.
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Ep. 224 - Tom Maxwell

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 226th episode, our guest is … me!
My first solo episode of this podcast was Episode 41, the second was Episode 62, the third was Episode 84, the fourth was Episode 117, the fifth was Episode 131, the sixth was Episode 135, the seventh was Episode 182, the eighth was Episode 189, the ninth was Episode 194, the tenth was Episode 200, the 11th was Episode 205, the 12th was Episode 215 and the 13th was on Episode 220. And, on Episode 100, I was joined by my wife and regular guest Ash Burgess, who interviewed me.
I am a 28-time award-winning journalist whose work has appeared in print, radio, online and television. I am currently Technology Reporter for Wealth Management Magazine. Most recently, I was Editor of the Wabash Plain Dealer; News Editor of NUVO; Managing Editor of the Indiana Lawyer; and City Editor, Opinion Page Editor and Editorial Board Member of the Kokomo Tribune. I was also a reporter at WFHB, the Times-Mail, The Reporter-Times, Ukiah Daily Journal and Ukiah Valley Television.
Oh yeah, and I’m also the proprietor of the podcast, The Rob Burgess Show.
Here are links to the articles, podcasts and websites mentioned in this episode:
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Brennan Center for Justice: “What Went Wrong with New York’s Redistricting”:
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/what-went-wrong-new-yorks-redistricting
This American Life: Ep. 784 - “Mapmaker, Mapmaker, Make Me a Map”:
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/784/mapmaker
The New Yorker Radio Hour: “A Local Paper Sounded the Alarm on George Santos. Nobody Listened”:
https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/the-new-yorker-radio-hour/a-local-paper-sounded-the-alarm-on-george-santos-nobody-listened

Ep. 226 - Rob Burgess [XIV]

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 227th episode, our guest is Jeff Guinn.
Jeff Guinn is the bestselling author of numerous books, including Go Down Together, The Last Gunfight, Manson, The Road to Jonestown, War on the Border and Waco. He lives in Fort Worth, Texas, and is a member of the Texas Literary Hall of Fame.
A quick programming note: During the episode, I mentioned my interview with Jonestown survivor Eugene Smith, which was Episode 199 of the podcast: http://www.therobburgessshow.com/2021/08/ep-199-eugene-smith.html
And here is my Ukiah Daily Journal story about fellow Jonestown survivor Tracy Diaz: https://www.ukiahdailyjournal.com/2008/11/02/survivor-recalls-the-horror-of-jonestown-ukiahan-travels-back-to-guyana/

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Ep. 227 - Jeff Guinn

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 228th episode our returning guest is Ash Burgess.
You first heard Ash Burgess on Episode 16, Episode 26, Episode 27, Episode 39, Episode 58, Episode 63, Episode 77, Episode 86, Episode 91, Episode 100, Episode 124, Episode 130, Episode 136, Episode 142, Episode 143, Episode 148, Episode 151, Episode 154, Episode 165, Episode 176, Episode 184, Episode 191, Episode 196, Episode 198, Episode 203, Episode 209, Episode 214, Episode 219, Episode 222 and Episode 82 and Episode 216 which also featured regular guest Jonathan Fowler of the podcast.
Ash Burgess has a dusty degree in Religious Studies and an appetite for both high and low culture. She strives to celebrate the best of every season with her young children.
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Ep. 228 - Ash Burgess [XXIX]

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 229th episode our guest is Eli Merritt.
A political historian at Vanderbilt, Eli Merritt has written about the dangers of demagogues to democracy for The New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Seattle Times, Chicago Tribune, Newsday and Philadelphia Inquirer, among dozens of other news outlets. He writes a Substack newsletter called "American Commonwealth" that explores the origins of the United States’ political discontents and solutions to them.
His new book, “How to Save Democracy: Advice and Inspiration from 95 World Leaders,” is a collection of 423 quotations derived from the First International Summit for Democracy and was published March 14 by Amplify Publishing Group.
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Ep. 229 - Eli Merritt

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 230th episode, our guest is … me!
This is my 16th solo episode of the podcast. The others were Episode 41, Episode 62, Episode 84,  Episode 117, Episode 131, Episode 135, Episode 182, Episode 189, Episode 194, Episode 200, Episode 205, Episode 215, Episode 220 and, on Episode 100, I was joined by my wife and regular guest Ash Burgess, who interviewed me.
I am a 31-time award-winning journalist whose work has appeared in print, radio, online and television. I am currently Technology Reporter for Wealth Management Magazine. Most recently, I was Editor of the Wabash Plain Dealer; News Editor of NUVO; Managing Editor of the Indiana Lawyer; and City Editor, Opinion Page Editor and Editorial Board Member of the Kokomo Tribune. I was also a reporter at WFHB, the Times-Mail, The Reporter-Times, Ukiah Daily Journal and Ukiah Valley Television.
Oh yeah, and I’m also the proprietor of the podcast, The Rob Burgess Show.
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Ep. 230 - Rob Burgess [XV]

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 231st episode our returning guest is Ash Burgess.
You first heard Ash Burgess on Episode 16, Episode 26, Episode 27, Episode 39, Episode 58, Episode 63, Episode 77, Episode 86, Episode 91, Episode 100, Episode 124, Episode 130, Episode 136, Episode 142, Episode 143, Episode 148, Episode 151, Episode 154, Episode 165, Episode 176, Episode 184, Episode 191, Episode 196, Episode 198, Episode 203, Episode 209, Episode 214, Episode 219, Episode 222, Episode 228 and Episode 82 and Episode 216 which also featured regular guest Jonathan Fowler of the podcast.
Ash Burgess has a dusty degree in Religious Studies and an appetite for both high and low culture. She strives to celebrate the best of every season with her young children.
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Ep. 231 - Ash Burgess [XXX]

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 232nd episode, our returning guest is Eli Merritt.
You first heard from Eli Merritt on Episode 229 of the podcast. A political historian at Vanderbilt, Eli Merritt has written about the dangers of demagogues to democracy for The New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Seattle Times, Chicago Tribune, Newsday and Philadelphia Inquirer, among dozens of other news outlets. He writes a Substack newsletter called "American Commonwealth" that explores the origins of the United States’ political discontents and solutions to them. For more information, click here: https://elimerritt.substack.com/
His book, “How to Save Democracy: Advice and Inspiration from 95 World Leaders,” is a collection of 423 quotations derived from the First International Summit for Democracy and was published March 14 by Amplify Publishing Group.
And his new book, “Disunion Among Ourselves: The Perilous Politics of the American Revolution,” was published June 4 by the University of Missouri Press. For more information, click here: https://upress.missouri.edu/9780826222817/disunion-among-ourselves/ 
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Ep. 232 - Eli Merritt [II]

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 233rd episode, our guest is Thom Hartmann.
Thom Hartmann is a progressive nationally and internationally syndicated talk show host. Talkers Magazine named him America’s no. 1 most important progressive host and the host of one of the top 10 talk radio shows in the country every year for more than a decade. A four-time recipient of the Project Censored Award, Hartmann is also a New York Times-bestselling author of more than 30 books, translated into multiple languages. He was born in Michigan and retains strong ties to the Midwest, although he has lived in many regions. He now lives on the Columbia River in Portland, Oregon.
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Ep. 233 - Thom Hartmann

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 234th episode, our guest is Jean Pfaelzer.
Jean Pfaelzer is a public historian, commentator, and professor of American studies at the University of Delaware. Her books include, “Driven Out: The Forgotten War Against Chinese Americans,” “Rebecca Harding Davis: Origins of Social Realism” and “The Utopian Novel in America.” She lives in Washington, DC. Her latest book, “California, a Slave State” was published June 27, 2023 by Yale University Press.
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Ep. 234 - Jean Pfaelzer

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 235th episode, our guest is Noam Bardin.
Noam Bardin is Founder of Post, a platform built for real people, real news and civil conversations. 
Prior to launching Post in 2022, Noam founded and served as CEO of Waze, one of the world's most talked-about startups through its acquisition by Google in June 2013. Featured as one of Business Insider’s 100 Stars of Silicon Valley, Noam holds a B.A. in Economics from the Hebrew University and a Masters of Public Administration from Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government, where he started planning on how to save the world. He’s now decided it will be one Post at a time and looks forward to everyone joining him in conversation at post.news/@/noam
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Ep. 235 - Noam Bardin

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 236th episode, our returning guest is Jonathan Fowler.
Jonathan is the all-time most frequent guest of The Rob Burgess Show. You first heard Jonathan Fowler on Episode 2, Episode 10, Episode 20, Episode 21, Episode 29, Episode 30, Episode 31, Episode 32, Episode 34, Episode 35, Episode 43, Episode 48, Episode 51, Episode 56, Episode 64, Episode 74, Episode 83, Episode 92, Episode 102, Episode 103, Episode 104, Episode 105, Episode 106, Episode 107, Episode 108, Episode 109, Episode 111, Episode 114, Episode 115, Episode 116, Episode 119, Episode 126, Episode 127, Episode 133, Episode 137, Episode 140, Episode 146, Episode 147, Episode 149. Episode 153, Episode 156, Episode 158, Episode 160, Episode 162, Episode 164, Episode 167, Episode 168, Episode 169, Episode 172, Episode 173, Episode 174, Episode 179, Episode 180, Episode 181, and Episode 185. 
And on Episodes 82 and 216, Jonathan was a guest along with fellow regular guest Ash Burgess.
Jonathan graduated with a BA in history from Indiana University in 2006. He is an unabashed left-wing political junkie. He has lived and worked in South Korea for over 10 years, trying to help the citizens of that great nation, hopefully, "talk pretty one day."
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Ep. 236 - Jonathan Fowler [LVI]

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 237th episode, our guest is Dr. Jonathan M. DePierro.
Jonathan M. DePierro, PhD, is Associate Professor of Psychiatry at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai and Associate Director of Mount Sinai's Center for Stress, Resilience, and Personal Growth. He is a clinical psychologist as well as an expert in psychological resilience and the treatment of trauma-related mental health conditions.
The new edition of the book he co-authored, “Resilience: The Science of Mastering Life's Greatest Challenges,” was published in September by Cambridge University Press.
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Ep. 237 - Dr. Jonathan DePierro

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 238th episode our returning guest is Ash Burgess.
You first heard Ash Burgess on Episode 16, Episode 26, Episode 27, Episode 39, Episode 58, Episode 63, Episode 77, Episode 86, Episode 91, Episode 100, Episode 124, Episode 130, Episode 136, Episode 142, Episode 143, Episode 148, Episode 151, Episode 154, Episode 165, Episode 176, Episode 184, Episode 191, Episode 196, Episode 198, Episode 203, Episode 209, Episode 214, Episode 219, Episode 222, Episode 228, Episode 231 and Episode 82, and Episode 216 which also featured regular guest Jonathan Fowler of the podcast.
Ash Burgess has a dusty degree in Religious Studies and an appetite for both high and low culture. She strives to celebrate the best of every season with her young children.
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Ep. 238 - Ash Burgess [XXXI]

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 239th episode our returning guest is Ash Burgess.
You first heard Ash Burgess on Episode 16, Episode 26, Episode 27, Episode 39, Episode 58, Episode 63, Episode 77, Episode 86, Episode 91, Episode 100, Episode 124, Episode 130, Episode 136, Episode 142, Episode 143, Episode 148, Episode 151, Episode 154, Episode 165, Episode 176, Episode 184, Episode 191, Episode 196, Episode 198, Episode 203, Episode 209, Episode 214, Episode 219, Episode 222, Episode 228, Episode 231, Episode 238 and Episode 82, and Episode 216 which also featured regular guest Jonathan Fowler of the podcast.
Ash Burgess has a dusty degree in Religious Studies and an appetite for both high and low culture. She strives to celebrate the best of every season with her young children.
Follow her on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/ashburgess/ and subscribe to her YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl2Bis7mhGmekVi0ZioJFOg?app=desktop
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Ep. 239 - Ash Burgess [XXXII]

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 240th episode our guest is Staff Sergeant Aquilino Gonell.
Staff Sergeant Aquilino Gonell is a Dominican immigrant, former U.S. Army soldier and Iraq War veteran. For 17 years, he was a United States Capitol Police officer and was one of four police officers who testified before the House Select Committee investigating the January 6 insurrection. He’s been featured on ABC, CBS, CNN, Telemundo, Univision and NPR, and in The New York Times, The Washington Post and El Diario. He is a recipient of the Congressional Gold Medal and the Presidential Citizens Medal.
The book he co-wrote with Susan Shapiro, “American Shield: The Immigrant Sergeant Who Defended Democracy,” was published Nov. 7 by Counterpoint Press.
A quick programming note: The interview section of this episode is about 40 minutes long, after which I'll come back to read a quick additional statement from Staff Sergeant Gonell. Then, for the last part of the episode, I'll be including Staff Sergeant Gonell's complete testimony before the United States House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack, which he delivered July 27, 2021.
After our conversation, I asked Staff Sergeant Gonell if he had any additional statements he wanted me to include in the episode. This is what he sent me:
“The book is not just about January 6. It’s about sacrifices and dedication to duty. I spent 23 years of my life as a public servant in the military and as a police officer, where I protected the country, at home and abroad, faithfully and honorably. I have overcome many obstacles, challenges and adversities. I thought I had it all figured out. Then January 6 happened. I lost my career, my health and my beliefs in American principles and values, creating a moral injury as well. I did what I signed up for and kept my oath. Yet, those same people I protected, the Republicans, tell me that what I lived through was not real or that it wasn't that bad.”
I want to quickly thank Staff Sergeant Gonell once more, along with the other United States Capitol Police officers who testified and continue to speak out.
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Ep. 240 - Staff Sergeant Aquilino Gonell

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 241st episode our guest is Bella DePaulo, PhD.
Bella DePaulo, PhD, is the “leading expert on single life” and has been described by The Atlantic as “America’s foremost thinker and writer on the single experience.” Dr. DePaulo coined the term “single at heart.” Her TEDx talk, “What no one ever told you about people who are single,” has been viewed more than 1.6 million times. She is the author of “Singled Out” and “How We Live Now,” among other titles; has written the “Living Single” blog for Psychology Today since 2008; and has been published by the New York Times, the Washington Post, Time magazine, The Atlantic and many other outlets. She has appeared on shows including The Today Show, CNN American Morning, CBS This Morning and Good Morning America. She has been interviewed on NPR many times, as well as on podcasts by CNN, The Atlantic and many others. Dr. DePaulo has a BA from Vassar College and a PhD from Harvard University. She has lectured nationally and internationally. After two decades as a professor of psychology at the University of Virginia, Dr. DePaulo moved to the West Coast, where she is currently an academic affiliate in the Department of Psychological and Brain Sciences at the University of California, Santa Barbara. She lives in Summerland, California. Her book, “Single At Heart: The Power, Freedom, and Heart-Filling Joy of Single Life,” was published Dec. 5.
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Ep. 241 - Dr. Bella DePaulo

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 242nd episode our guest is Alexandrea J. Ravenelle.
Alexandrea J. Ravenelle is an Assistant Professor in Sociology at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, a Faculty Fellow with the Center for Urban and Regional Studies (CURS), and a 2023-24 Russell Sage Foundation Visiting Scholar. Her newest book, “Side Hustle Safety Net: How Vulnerable Workers Survive Precarious Times,” was released by the University of California Press on Oct. 24. Her first book, “Hustle and Gig: Struggling and Surviving in the Sharing Economy,” was released in March 2019. She is currently working on two mixed methods research projects: “Work in the Time of COVID-19,” previously funded by an NSF RAPID Response grant, currently funded by the Russell Sage Foundation, to study the impact of the coronavirus pandemic on precarious and gig workers in New York City, and “After the Hustle,” funded through a Ewing Marion Kauffman Foundation inaugural Knowledge Challenge grant, examining the impact of high-status gig work and sudden platform closings on gig economy entrepreneurs.
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Ep. 242 - Alexandrea J. Ravenelle

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 243rd episode, our guest is… me!
This is my 17th solo episode of the podcast. The others were:
Episode 41 - Rob Burgess
Episode 62 - Rob Burgess [II]
Episode 84 - Rob Burgess [III]
Episode 100 - Rob Burgess and Ash Burgess
Episode 117 - Rob Burgess [IV] 
Episode 131 - Rob Burgess [V]
Episode 135 - Rob Burgess [VI]
Episode 182 - Rob Burgess [VII]
Episode 189 - Rob Burgess [VIII]
Episode 194 - Rob Burgess [IX]
Episode 200 - Rob Burgess [X]
Episode 205 - Rob Burgess [XI]
Episode 215 - Rob Burgess [XII] 
Episode 220 - Rob Burgess [XIII]
Episode 226 - Rob Burgess [XIV]
Episode 230 - Rob Burgess [XV]
I am a 31-time award-winning journalist whose work has appeared in print, radio, online and television. I am currently Technology Reporter for Wealth Management Magazine. Most recently, I was Editor of the Wabash Plain Dealer; News Editor of NUVO; Managing Editor of the Indiana Lawyer; and City Editor, Opinion Page Editor and Editorial Board Member of the Kokomo Tribune. I was also a reporter at WFHB, the Times-Mail, The Reporter-Times, Ukiah Daily Journal and Ukiah Valley Television.
Oh yeah, and I’m also the proprietor of the podcast, The Rob Burgess Show.
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Here are the episodes featuring regular guests Josh Sigler and Brandon Chapman:
http://www.therobburgessshow.com/2018/02/regular-guest-brandon-chapman.html
And regular guest Louis Moore:
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Ep. 243 - Rob Burgess [XVI]

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 244th episode, our guest is Mark Rank.
Mark Robert Rank is the Herbert S. Hadley Professor of Social Welfare at Washington University in St. Louis. He is widely recognized as one of the foremost experts on issues of poverty, inequality and social justice. To date he has written 10 books on a range of subjects, including an exploration of the American Dream, a new understanding of poverty and inequality, and the role of luck and chance in shaping the course of our lives. In addition, he has published articles in numerous academic journals across a variety of fields. Rank’s research has been reported widely throughout the news media and cited in virtually every major newspaper in the country, frequently in the New York Times and the Washington Post. He has also been featured in a range of other media outlets including various programs on National Public Radio, NBC Nightly News, the PBS NewsHour, CBS News, CNN and many others.
He has provided research expertise to members of the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives, as well as many national organizations involved in issues of economic and social justice. His work has been cited by then-President Barack Obama, as well as Senator Bernie Sanders and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
His most recent book is, “The Random Factor: How Chance and Luck Profoundly Shape Our Lives and the World around Us.”
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Ep. 244 - Mark Rank

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 245th episode, our guest is Randy Fertel.
Randy Fertel is a writer and philanthropist dedicated to the arts, education, New Orleans, and the environment. Fertel holds a Ph.D. in English and American literature from Harvard University and is the author of A Taste for Chaos: The Art of Literary Improvisation and The Gorilla Man and the Empress of Steak: A New Orleans Family Memoir. Fertel has taught English at Harvard University, Tulane University, LeMoyne College, and the New School for Social Research. He specializes in the literature of the Vietnam War and the literature of exile. In addition to his writing, Fertel is president of the Fertel Foundation and the Ruth U. Fertel Foundation, named for his mother Ruth Fertel, founder of Ruth’s Chris Steak House. He is co-founder of the Ridenhour Prizes for Courageous Truth-telling, now in its 20th year. He lives in New Orleans and New York.
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Ep. 245 - Randy Fertel

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 246th episode our returning guest is Ash Burgess.
You first heard Ash Burgess on Episode 16, Episode 26, Episode 27, Episode 39, Episode 58, Episode 63, Episode 77, Episode 86, Episode 91, Episode 100, Episode 124, Episode 130, Episode 136, Episode 142, Episode 143, Episode 148, Episode 151, Episode 154, Episode 165, Episode 176, Episode 184, Episode 191, Episode 196, Episode 198, Episode 203, Episode 209, Episode 214, Episode 219, Episode 222, Episode 228, Episode 231, Episode 238, Episode 239 and Episode 82, and Episode 216 which also featured regular guest Jonathan Fowler of the podcast.
Ash Burgess has a dusty degree in Religious Studies and an appetite for both high and low culture. She strives to celebrate the best of every season with her young children.
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Ep. 246 - Ash Burgess [XXIII]

Hello and welcome to The Rob Burgess Show. I am, of course, your host, Rob Burgess.
On this our 247th episode, our returning guest is Jonathan Fowler.
Jonathan is the all-time most frequent guest of The Rob Burgess Show. You first heard Jonathan Fowler on Episode 2, Episode 10, Episode 20, Episode 21, Episode 29, Episode 30, Episode 31, Episode 32, Episode 34, Episode 35, Episode 43, Episode 48, Episode 51, Episode 56, Episode 64, Episode 74, Episode 83, Episode 92, Episode 102, Episode 103, Episode 104, Episode 105, Episode 106, Episode 107, Episode 108, Episode 109, Episode 111, Episode 114, Episode 115, Episode 116, Episode 119, Episode 126, Episode 127, Episode 133, Episode 137, Episode 140, Episode 146, Episode 147, Episode 149. Episode 153, Episode 156, Episode 158, Episode 160, Episode 162, Episode 164, Episode 167, Episode 168, Episode 169, Episode 172, Episode 173, Episode 174, Episode 179, Episode 180, Episode 181, Episode 185 and Episode 236.
Jonathan graduated with a BA in history from Indiana University in 2006. He is an unabashed left-wing political junkie. He has lived and worked in South Korea for over a decade, trying to help the citizens of that great nation, hopefully, "talk pretty one day."
A quick editor's note:
My children were quite loud at times in the background of the episode. I edited out as much of it as I could.
Also, this conversation was recorded a few months back, but I felt like most of it still holds up. However, there have been a few developments between then and now. The candidates who were facing Donald Trump and Joe Biden have since ended their campaigns. Joe Lieberman died. Joe Manchin declared he would not run for president in 2024. No Labels ended their presidential bid for 2024. Post News has shut down. Jonathan and I are both on Bluesky now. However, I am still not on Threads.
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Ep. 247 - Jonathan Fowler [LVII]

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