For this episode of The New Stack Makers, TC Currie is joined by Dr. Eric Brewer, Google Fellow and VP of Infrastructure at Google where he’s the architect of Cloud Native systems at massive scale.  He’s also been a Computer Science Professor at UC Berkeley since 1994.   TC caught up with Dr. Brewer at the recent Service Mesh Days in San Francisco.

“Istio at its core decouples developers from operations,” Brewer said. That decoupling lets both sides go faster and with more confidence.

Traditionally, when developers are writing a service, they worry a lot about the API, what are the methods, how does it work? But when you’re deploying microservices, then you start need to think about other questions.

What are the policies that are calling this service?  Does it have quota? Does it have a denial of service?  How does it get authenticated?  How is it secured?  All of these questions that are not about what the API does, but are operations pieces.

Eric Brewer on Why Envoy and Istio are the Future of Networking

Alex Delgado, a security engineer at the Gremlin chaos testing service, points to the disconnect many enterprises have. It’s not that the developers aren’t building with the newest technologies like Kubernetes and microservices. It’s just that security and compliance haven’t even heard of these things. And it's increasing risk.

“You can’t secure something that you don’t know how it works,” he said, on this episode of The New Stack Makers, where Delgado reflects on his past at a security and defense enterprise and his present at scale-up Gremlin. He began his career in customer support and then remediation of customer concerns. That put him in an interesting but often frustrating position as he moved into security, which had him throwing code over the wall that was released maybe three months down the line.

Don't let SREs Leave Cybersecurity Behind

In this episode of The New Stack Makers, we talk about all this and more with Susanna Kass, who, after 30 years designing, building and operating data centers, is now the data center advisor for the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals Program.

For data centers, it all comes down to stopping what Kass refers to as the “dirty cloud,” which sees most data centers depleting energy, land, and water. Data centers need to make a pledge to achieve carbon neutrality for every kilowatt hour that is consumed, be accountable for the phase out of coal, and transition to a carbon-neutral infrastructure by using and generating renewable energy per KW hour consumed by site.

Kass describes this as using “nature-based technological solutions to protect our earth, resources and the environment.

Makers: Next-Generation Sustainable Data Center Design

Susanna Kass - Next-Generation Sustainable Data Center Design

Harness sponsored this podcast.

The growing pains continue: As organizations push ahead, shifting to Kubernetes and cloud native environments at scale, the complexities of managing Kubernetes clusters increase as well. The associated challenges of adoption, and then managing these highly distributed containerized environments, remain daunting. For many DevOps teams, the advent of “Kubernetes complexity fatigue” has become a concern.

In this episode of The New Stack Makers podcast, hosted by TNS founder and Publisher Alex Williams, Kubernetes complexity fatigue, and more importantly, what can be done about it, are discussed. The guests were Ravi Lachhman, evangelist at Harness, and Frank Moley, senior technical engineering manager at DataStax.

Ravi Lachhman and Frank Moley - How to Fight the Kubernetes Complexity-Fatigue Monster

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Ravi Lachhman and Frank Moley - How to Fight the Kubernetes Complexity-Fatigue Monster

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