We open Season 2 with an introduction to our co-hosts, Alex Bove, PhD and Brother Robb Carter, MSW, who interview each other. Their long-reaching conversation touches on issues of men's work, families of origin, male role models, shame and resiliency, and more.

We are also happy to announce that we are now the official podcast of the Men's Center for Growth and Change!

Learn more about the co-hosts and the MCGC here: http://menscenterphilly.org/

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TLaM Season 2, Episode 1: O Brother Robb, Where Art Thou?

We talk this week with Charlie Glickman, a Seattle-based sex and relationships coach, sex educator, and somatic body worker. Among other topics, we discuss the importance of somatic awareness; the intersection of toxic masculinity, shame, and trauma; the consequences of men's violence; how to navigate sexual consent; the act like a man box; and the drama triangle.

You can find out more about Charlie's work here:
https://www.makesexeasy.com/

Learn more about the co-hosts and the MCGC here: menscenterphilly.org/

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Theme music by Lee Rosevere: freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/

TLaM Season 2, Episode 2: Charlie Glickman

This week's guest is Howard Stevenson, Constance Clayton Professor of Urban Education at the University of Pennsylvania. We discuss Professor Stevenson's family history and connection to the Philadelphia community; gender roles and subverting them; men's friendships; the PLAAY Project; the importance of emotional regulation; and the wisdom of an African proverb about the lion's story.

You can see more of Dr. Stevenson's work in this TED Talk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV3OmxrowWE&ab_channel=TED

Learn more about the co-hosts and the MCGC here: menscenterphilly.org/

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TLaM Season 2, Episode 3: Howard Stevenson

Sex educator Brian Melanson joins us to discuss his work with intellectually and developmentally disabled adolescent boys. We talk about inclusion and exclusion within masculinity; the importance of boundaries; disability and identity; and the importance of both self-esteem and personal growth, among other topics.

Whole Selves: https://wholeselves.org/

Learn more about the co-hosts and the MCGC here: menscenterphilly.org/

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Theme music by Lee Rosevere: freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/

TLaM Season 2, Episode 4: Brian Melanson

Our guest this episode is London-based songwriter Todd Henkin. We discuss Todd's hike across Montana and his thoughts on British versus American masculinity; gender as performance; power and responsibility; teachable moments; and his fascinating songwriting process.

Find out more about Todd and the Lullaby Project here: https://www.toddhenkin.com/

Learn more about the co-hosts and the MCGC here: menscenterphilly.org/

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Theme music by Lee Rosevere: freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/

TLaM Season 2, Episode 5: Todd Henkin

Amelia Innis, LMFT joins us to talk about her work with Terry Real's Relational Life Therapy model; the inner child versus the wise adult; the importance of leverage; icons of positive masculinity and fatherhood; men's friendships; and the joy her work has brought her.

Amelia's practice: https://www.thetherapygroup.com/therapist-list/amelia-innis

Learn more about the co-hosts and the MCGC here: https://menscenterphilly.org/

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Theme music by Lee Rosevere: freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/

TLaM Season 2, Episode 6: Amelia Innis

Carlos Bradley is a former National Football League player, Wake Forest stand out college athlete, and current certified master trainer at AFC Fitness in the Philadelphia suburbs. He is also the president of The International Student Athlete Academy and chairman of the board of SafrSports, an organization working to reduce head injuries in contact sports.

In this interview, we discuss the importance of education; what Carlos learned from teachers and coaches in his life; current trends in college athletics; the warrior spirit; stories of challenge, persistence, and the need for social support; and Carlos's work with SafrSports and the ISAA.

Find out more about Carlos Bradley's work here:
https://isaasports.com/
https://safrsports.com/


Learn more about the co-hosts and the MCGC here: menscenterphilly.org/

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Theme music by Lee Rosevere: freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/

TLaM Season 2, Episode 7: Carlos Bradley

Dr. Niobe Way is the Steinhardt Professor of Applied Psychology at NYU and the author of many books on boyhood and the crisis of connection, including the just-released Rebels With a Cause: Reimagining Boys, Ourselves, and Our Culture. In this interview, we talk about the danger of coding maturity and success as strictly masculine; why our culture values emotional hardness over emotional softness; the psychology of mass shooters; the importance of feeling heard and seen; how to listen with curiosity; the emotional wisdom of 5-year-olds; how thinking and feeling are inseparable; the questions we should be asking teenagers; and the importance of telling thick vs thin stories. • 
You can learn more about Dr. Way and her work here: https://steinhardt.nyu.edu/people/niobe-way • 
Her book signing is happening here: https://stores.barnesandnoble.com/event/9780062173241-0 •
 Learn more about the co-hosts and the MCGC here: menscenterphilly.org/ • 
Visit TLaM's web hub: www.talklikeaman.net • 
Support the show at Patreon: www.patreon.com/talklikeaman • 
Theme music by Lee Rosevere: freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/

TLaM Season 2, Episode 8: Niobe Way

Derrick Pratt, Philadelphia-based community activist, organizer, and founder of We Embrace Fatherhood, joins us this episode. We discuss the importance of interpersonal connection; Derrick’s family history of activism; his organization’s mission; the rich history of Philadelphia's Mantua neighborhood; his love of hip-hop; leading by example; tips for educating young people in the age of social media; and how to be a voice to the voiceless. •
We Embrace Fatherhood: https://weembracefatherhood.org/ •
Learn more about the co-hosts and the MCGC here: menscenterphilly.org/ •
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Theme music by Lee Rosevere: freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/

TLaM Season 2, Episode 9: Derrick Pratt

This time we are joined by Brett Hopkins, whose alter ego is burlesque legend The Amazing Brettzo. Brett regales us with stories from his youth in New Jersey and Florida and discusses his creative influences; how his work plays with gender; the history and culture of burlesque; and the fine line between parody and self-parody. It's an always-entertaining, occasionally educational conversation! • Follow Brettzo on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebrettzo/ •
Learn more about the co-hosts and the MCGC here: menscenterphilly.org/ •
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Theme music by Lee Rosevere: freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/



TLaM Season 2, Episode 10: Brett Hopkins (a.k.a. Brettzo)

Dr. Thomas Gordon, former director of Early Childhood Services at Jefferson, former University of Pennsylvania professor, founder and current principal of TAGA Consulting, joins us for a powerful conversation about his history growing up in the Jim Crow south. He describes his and his family's experiences of racism and his own journey of educational and professional achievement. As an expert on leadership, Dr. Gordon also shares his insights on that important topic. • You can find Dr. Gordon at TAGA Consulting here: https://www.tagaconsulting.com/ •
Learn more about the co-hosts and the MCGC here: menscenterphilly.org/ •
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Theme music by Lee Rosevere: freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/

TLaM Season 2, Episode 11: Dr. Thomas Gordon

David Palumbo is an award-winning freelance illustrator working primarily in the dark fantasy genre. A graduate of the Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts, Dave has worked with Marvel, Wizards of the Coast, Tor Books, The New Yorker, and others. In this interview, we discuss his 1980s childhood; the importance of artistic integrity; how his work subverts gender and racial tropes within his genre; the evolution of illustrations at companies like Wizards of the Coast; and much more. • Dave's work can be found here: http://www.dvpalumbo.com/ •
Learn more about the co-hosts and the MCGC here: menscenterphilly.org/ •
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Theme music by Lee Rosevere: freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/

TLaM Season 2, Episode 12: David Palumbo

We launch Season 3 with Mark Grayson, author of Getting Naked: A Field Guide for Men. Mark spent years as an entrepreneur before becoming a columnist for The Good Men Project and writing Getting Naked. He is also the founding director of Trinity Spiritual Center in Southport, CT. In this interview, we discuss Mark's life as well as key elements of his book: the limitations of "man box" culture; the importance of being naked, physically and emotionally; our need to connect with all sides of ourselves; what we gain from stillness and retreat; and why we need to redefine success. •
Learn more about the co-hosts and the MCGC here: menscenterphilly.org/ •
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Theme music by Lee Rosevere: freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/

TLaM Season 3, Episode 1: Mark Grayson

An introduction to the Talk Like a Man project and its origins, and a look forward into the future of the podcast.

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TLaM Season 1, Episode #1: Introduction

An interview with Thomas Schiff (Ed.D.), Executive Director of Phallacies, about that organization, his own history as part of the men's movement for the past four decades, and some current issues, including the term "toxic masculinity," #metoo, and the changing nature of masculinity in sports and the wider culture.

Phallacies: http://www.phallacies.org/site/

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Theme music by Lee Rosevere: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/

TLaM Season 1, Episode 2: Tom Schiff

An interview with Drew Kerwood, who works with fraternities on sexual and mental health and wellness, masculinity, and healthy relationships.

Contact Drew on social media:
Facebook: Drew Kerwood
Instagram: Drew616
Twitter: DrewKerwood

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Theme music by Lee Rosevere: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/

TLaM Season 1, Episode 3: Drew Kerwood

This episode features Darius Mooring, researcher at Widener University's Interdisciplinary Sexuality Research Collaborative:
https://widenerisrc.com/

Darius and I talk about the work he's doing in pleasure-based sex education for men of color who have sex with men. We also discuss masculinity norms in gay culture, families of origin, and our larger culture. Listen to the end for a conversation about crochet!

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TLaM Season 1, Episode 4: Darius Mooring

In this episode, I talk to Al Vernacchio, Sexuality Education Coordinator for Friends Central School in Wynnewood, PA. We discuss the pitfalls and joys of adolescent masculinity, educating about consent, and the relationship between spirituality and sexuality, among other things. More information about Al's work can be found here: https://alvernacchio.com/

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TLaM Season 1, Episode 5: Al Vernacchio

Jase Lindgren, one of the co-hosts of the Multiamory Podcast, is my guest this episode. Jase and I talk about his work as a dating and relationships coach, his personal story, and the importance of open communication. More information about Jase can be found here: https://www.multiamory.com/about-us

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Theme music by Lee Rosevere: freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/

TLaM Season 1, Episode 6: Jase Lindgren

This episode features my conversation with Rabbi Shawn Zevit of Miskan Shalom. We discuss his work with congregants of all genders, his personal history in the men's movement, relationships between fathers and sons, and so much more.

Find out more about Rabbi Shawn: http://www.rabbizevit.com/

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Theme music by Lee Rosevere: freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/

TLaM Season 1, Episode 7: Rabbi Shawn Zevit

In this episode, I talk with Dianne Brown, PhD, CFLE, CSE, project director at Camden Healthy Start and adjunct faculty member at Widener University's Center for Human Sexuality Studies. We discuss her work with young fathers of color, the importance of male role models in the lives of young men, research into families in marginalized communities, and many other fascinating topics.

Learn more about Dr. Brown here: http://www.theabsc.com/dianne-r-browne/

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Theme music by Lee Rosevere: freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/

TLaM Season 1, Episode 8: Dianne Browne

In this episode, I present a panel discussion by Robert Heasley, Brother Robb Carter, and Robert Garfield. The three Roberts are part of the leadership group of the Men's Center for Growth and Change and all have multiple decades of work with men in therapy, men's groups, and research studies.

The discussion centers on the difficulties men often have creating and sustaining intimacy with other men, and what we can do to encourage men's friendships and deeper relationships. Presenters also share their own stories of navigating the often difficult landscape of masculinity in America.

Learn more about my guests and the MCGC here: http://menscenterphilly.org/

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Theme music by Lee Rosevere: freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/

TLaM Season 1, Episode 9: The Three Roberts

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