In this episode of "Dope with Lime," we speak with Paul Kendrick. Paul and his father Stephen’s recent book, Nine Days: The Race to Save Martin Luther King Jr.’s Life and Win the 1960 Election, details King’s imprisonment in October 1960 during the Atlanta sit-ins and the effects that his arrest had on the 1960 presidential election. Rev. Otis Moss Jr., who took part in the sit-ins, calls Nine Days an “urgent, relevant, and historically accurate” book. Kendrick teaches at National Louis University in Chicago, he serves as the Executive Director of Rust Belt Rising, and he served in President Barack Obama’s White House Presidential Office. Today, we will talk with him about Nine Days, Lillian Smith’s connection to the events in October 1960, and more.

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Paul Kendrick "Dope with Lime" Ep. 15

In this episode, we speak with Dr. Monica Miller. She is an assistant professor of English at Middle Georgia State University. We talk about teaching Lillian Smith to adult learners, Smith's place within the Southern literary canon, Harper Lee's "To Kill a Mockingbird," and much more.  Dr. Miller is the president of the Flannery O’Connor Society and serves on the editorial advisory board for the Flannery O’Connor Review. Her book, Being Ugly: Southern Women Writers and Social Rebellion, explores the ways that Southern women writers such as Margaret Mitchell and Monique Truong “employ ‘ugly’ characters to upend the expectations of patriarchy and open up more possibilities for southern female identity.”

Dr. Monica Miller "Dope With Lime" Ep. 16

In this episode, we speak with Sho Baraka. He is a rapper, activist, writer, husband, father, and more. We talk about art, creativity, and his book "He Saw That It Was Good." Sho Baraka has spent years traveling the world as a recording artist, performer and culture curator. He is well as an original member of internationally known hip-hop consortium 116 Clique and record label, Reach Records.  His overseas work has ranged from leading seminars about race relations in South Africa to establishing artist hubs in Indonesia. He is a co-founder of Forth District and The And Campaign. He also taught a class at Wake Forest School of Divinity.

Sho Baraka "Dope With Lime": Ep. 17

In this preview, Melanie Morrison talks about what her father said about Lillian Smith and her impact on her parents' lives.

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In this episode, we speak with Dr. Melanie Morrison. She is the founder and Executive Director of Allies for Change, “a network of anti-oppression educators who share a passion for social justice and a commitment to creating and sustaining life-giving all relationships and communities.” Currently, she is working on a manuscript entitled Letters from Old Screamer Mountain. Her mother, Eleanor, along with some friends stayed a weekend with Lillian Smith on Old Screamer Mountain in 1939, and that weekend “was an unforgettable turning point” in the eighteen-year old’s life. Dr. Morrison’s manuscript contains letters that she penned to her mother when she made a pilgrimage to the Lillian E. Smith Center for a residency in 2012. Today, we will talk about Allies for Change, the impact of Lillian Smith on Dr. Morrison and her mother, and more.

Dr. Melanie Morrison "Dope with Lime" Ep. 18

In this episode, we speak with Dr. Will Brantley, Professor of English at Middle Tennessee State University. His book, "Feminine Sense in Southern Memoir" won the Eudora Welty award for interpretive work of scholarship in modern letters. In "Feminine Sense," Dr. Brantley looks at the autobiographic works of Lillian Smith, Zora Neal Hurston, Eudora Welty, Ellen Glasgow, Lillian Hellman, and Katherine Ann Porter. As well, he has written on the FBI’s 134-page file that they kept on Lillian Smith and her activities. Today, we will speak with him about that file and its importance in our understanding of Smith’s life and work.

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Dr. Will Brantley "Dope with Lime": Ep. 19

In this episode, we speak with two recent Lillian E. Smith Scholars, Madison Hatfield and Mike Adams. We discuss how they became LES scholars, the impact that Smith has had on their thinking, and what they took away from the program.

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LES Scholars "Dope with Lime": Ep. 20

In this episode of "Dope with Lime," we discuss Lillian Smith's time as director of Laurel Falls Camp for Girls, the first first private camp for girls in Georgia. Her father started the camp in 1920, and Smith ran it from 1925 to 1948. 

If you or someone you know went to the camp, we'd love to hear from you. Please email us at lescenter@piedmont.edu

Laurel Falls Camp "Dope with Lime": Ep. 21

In this episode, we speak with Anna Weinstein, Assistant Professor of Screenwriting at Kennesaw State University. She is editor for Rutledge's Perform Book series. She is currently working on an adaptation of Richard Chase's "The Jack Tales." She is also developing a limited series based on the life of Lillian Smith. We spoke about her residency experiences at the LES Center and her current project which focuses on Smith.

Anna Weinstein "Dope with Lime" Ep. 22

In this episode, we speak with one of the first Lillian E. Smith Scholars, Emily Pierce. We discuss how she became an LES scholar, the impact that Smith has had on her thinking, and what she took away from the program.

Emily Pierce "Dope with Lime": Ep. 23

In this episode of "Dope with Lime," we talk about an anecdote from Lillian Smith's "Memory of a Large Christmas" (1962) where Smith's father invited 48 incarcerated men to eat Christmas dinner with his family. 

You can read the article in the latest issue of the LES Center's newsletter, "A View from the Mountain": 
https://issuu.com/piedmontjournal/docs/les_newsletter_f21_issuu

To donate to the LES Center, you can do so here: https://www2.piedmont.edu/giving-les-center

"The Lessons of Christmas" Dope With Lime": Ep. 24

In this episode, we speak with speaking with L.J. Harrison. He marched alongside Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. in the 1960s, after graduating from college, he taught history in Stephens County and elsewhere, and he served for five years on the Toccoa City Commission and as mayor of Toccoa. We spoke with him about the movement, the importance of teaching history, and Lillian Smith.

L.J. Harrison "Dope with Lime" Ep. 30

In this episode, we speak with Dr. Jennifer Morrison, Assistant Professor of English at Xavier University where she teaches African American literature and other courses. We spoke with her about the importance of Lillian Smith, connections between Smith and Ernest Gaines, the importance of libraries, and much more.

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Dr. Jennifer Morrison "Dope with Lime" Ep. 33

In this episode, we speak with the Dr. Audrey Clare Farley and Dr. Sara Moslener. Dr. Farley is a historian of twentieth century American fiction and culture. She is the author of "The Unfit Heiress: The Tragic Life and Scandalous Sterilization of Ann Cooper Hewitt." Her writing has appeared in The Atlantic, The New Republic, The Washington Post, and many other outlets. Dr. Moslener is a professor of Philosophy and Religion at Central Michigan University. She is the founder of the After Purity Project.  We talked about Lillian Smith’s influence on their work, the intersections of race, religion, and gender, eugenics, and much more.

Dr. Audrey Clare Farley and Dr. Sara Moslener "Dope with Lime" Ep. 35

This is a recording of the Lillian E. Smith Lecture Series Panel "Jim Crow, The Holocaust, and Today." We apologize about any moments where the audio may be unclear. 

In John A. Williams' Clifford's Blues, the protagonist Clifford Pepperidge is placed in Dachau in 1933 when the Nazis came to power. Originally from New Orleans and the United States, Clifford came to Europe to play music in the jazz scene, and he experienced freedom as a Black man. However, once the Nazis rose to power, he was arrested. Clifford writes in his diary from Dachau, “If you ain't for the Nazis, you're against them, and you wind up here. The South was like that. That's why I left.”

Individuals such as Lillian Smith, Kelly Miller, William Patterson, and more saw the links between the Jim Crow South and Nazi Germany. They pointed out, as Morehouse student Henry E. Banks did in April 1933, following the Nazi boycott of Jewish business, the need “to condemn the racial policies of Hitler and oppose injustice wherever it is found” and to recognize the same impulses in the United States. James Q. Whitman, in Hitler's American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law points out how Nazi lawyers used Jim Crow laws to inform the Nuremberg Laws and more.

Through a panel discussion, “Jim Crow, the Holocaust, and Today” will explore the intersections between the Jim Crow South and Nazi Germany, discussing the historical context and also the importance of knowing this history for today. The panel will consist of Dr. Thomas Aiello (Professor of History and Africana Studies at Valdosta State University), Dr. Chad Gibbs (Director of the Zucker/Goldberg Center for Holocaust Studies at the College of Charleston) and Dr. Jelena Subotić (Professor of Political Science at Georgia State University).

Jim Crow, the Holocaust, and Today "Dope with Lime": Ep. 38

In this episode, we speak with Caden Nelms, a senior mass communications student at Piedmont University and host of Rolling Through Life, a podcast that focuses on disability awareness and the stories of Caden and his friends, and Dr. David Sells, Assistant Professor in the Department of Exceptional Childhood Education at Piedmont University. We spoke about disability awareness, access, and more.

Caden Nelms "Dope with Lime" Ep. 39

In this episode, we speak with Megan Butchart about the literary journal that Lillian Smith and Paula Snelling published from Screamer Mountain from 1936-1945. Megan is a recent graduate of the University of Alberta where she received her M.A. in English. Her thesis was "The Literary Activism of Lillian Smith and Paula Snelling’s Little Magazine South Today." We spoke with Megan about the importance of the journal, the contributors, and how the journal got Smith and Snelling in trouble with law enforcement and the community.

"Buying a New World With Old Confederate Bills": https://tinyurl.com/3spwy4kv

"Evelyn Scott and Southern Background": https://tinyurl.com/yvtys4h4

Megan's research detailing individuals connected with the journal: 

Subscribers - https://arcg.is/1PSXiG0
Reader Essay Forum Respondents - https://arcg.is/19CP1T0
Contributors - https://arcg.is/0uCSu40

Megan Butchart "Dope With Lime" Ep. 40

In this episode, we speak with Sally Stanhope about. "The Civil Rights Movement in Northeast Georgia," last year's P-12 professional development institute at the Lillian E. Smith Center. We speak with her about what she took away from the institute and why she would encourage educators to attend this year's institute, "The Civil Rights Movement and the Nine-Word Problem." 

Stanthope has 18 years of teaching experience at various levels from elementary to undergraduate. Stanhope has also served in a variety of administrative roles including Academic Coach, Class Dean, and Service Learning Coordinator and at the Atlanta History Center designing virtual field trips. She now teaches at Chamblee High School, advocates for inclusive schools, and works with the Stone Mountain Action Coalition to free Stone Mountain Park from its Lost Cause legacy. 

You can find out more about this year's institute and how to apply at lesp12.com.

Sally Stanhope "Dope with Lime" Ep. 41

In this episode, we speak with Dr. Mae Claxton, Professor of English at Western Carolina University. She teaches classes in Southern, Appalachian, and Native American literature, and her scholarship focuses primarily on Eudora Welty, but she has recently expanded her interests to Horace Kephart, Appalachian women writers, and the Native South.

Her current project looks at Appalachian activist women writers of the 20th century, specifically Lillian Smith, Wilma Dykeman, Olive Tilford Dargan/Grace Lumpkin, and more. 

We spoke about her current project, Laurel Falls Camp, pedagogy, and much more.

Dr. Mae Claxton "Dope with Lime" Ep. 42

In this episode, we speak with Aaron McMullin, the 2023 recipient of the Emily Pierce Graduate Student Residency Award. Aaron is completing her MFA at Southern Illinois University Edwardsville, and she is constructing the Legacy Quilt Project as part of her program. We spoke with Aaron about the Legacy Quilt, her time as a Fulbrighter in India, and about the impact of the residency on her work.

Aaron McMullin "Dope With Lime" Ep. 43

In this episode, our director Dr. Matthew Teutsch explores the correlation between civil rights movements across the United States and the 1967 uprising in Newark. It delves into the socio-political climate, racial tensions, and police brutality that fueled the unrest, as well as the consequential aftermath. Furthermore, it highlights the crucial role of photographer Bud Lee in documenting the Newark uprising.

Listen to our interview with Marie Cochran about the relationship between Lillian Smith and Martin Luther King, Jr. https://soundcloud.com/user-396382788-289349527/marie-cochran-dope-with-lime-ep-12?si=3cef4a6b61414493a585d1f36b8581a0&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

Sixty Years Later: Birmingham and the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom

In this episode, we speak with Dr. Kamala Dutt, Professor Emerita in the Department of Pathology at Morehouse School of Medicine. She has published three collections of short stories and one novella in Hindi and one poetry collection in English. 

She has had residencies at the Lillian E. Smith Center for over two decades. We speak about the intersections of literature and science, her memories of her time at the center, specifically her memories of Bill, Nancy, Robert, Pearl, and the Johns who make the center special for her, and much more.

Dr. Kamala Dutt "Dope with Lime" Ep. 44

In this episode, we speak with artist and writer Tommye McClure Scanlin. She taught art for decades at the University of North Georgia, and is a world-renowned weaver. We speak with her about the importance of artist institutions on Northeast Georgia, her connection to the Lillian E. Smith Center, and the ways that the center has influenced her own art.

Scanlin supports the McClure-Scanlin Visual Artist Residency Award, one of the four residency awards offered by the LES Center. If you'd like to donate and support these awards, please visit our website: https://www.piedmont.edu/lillian-e-smith-center/giving/

Or, you can email us at lescenter@piedmont.edu

Tommye McClure Scanlin "Dope with Lime" Ep. 45

In this episode, we speak with Dr. Meredith McCarroll, an educator, author, and writing coach. Her work focuses on Appalachia, and her publications include "Un-White: Appalachia, Race, and Film" (UGA Press) and "Appalachian Reckoning: A Region Responds to Hillbilly Elegy" (WVU Press). We speak about how McCarroll had to leave Appalachia to learn about it and Lillian Smith, her journey to activism, and the contentious definitions related to region.  

You can visit her on her website https://meredithmccarroll.com/

Dr. Meredith McCarroll "Dope With Lime" Ep. 46

In this episode, we speak with Ravi Howard, Assistant Professor of English at Florida State University. Howard served on the Lillian E. Smith Center's Board. As well, he is an award winning author, receiving the Ernest J. Gaines Award for Literary Excellence for his 2008 novel "Like Trees, Walking." In 2015, he published "Driving the King." His work has appeared in Salon, The New York Times, and elsewhere. We speak about his time working with the LES center, the importance of literature in helping us understand history, and the role of art in society. 

You can learn more about him at ravihowardauthor.com

Ravi Howard "Dope with Lime" Ep. 47

In this episode, we speak with Dr. Michael Dando, Assistant Professor of Communication, Arts, and Literature at St. Cloud State University. Dando is an award-winning author, artist, educator, and scholar with over twenty years of experience in the classroom. His research and pedagogy explores ways that teachers and students collaborate with communities to create collective, civically engaged democratic opportunities for social justice. We speak about the ways that Lillian Smith's work, specifically her thoughts on pedagogy, correspond to Dando's pedagogical approaches, on the role of art in society, and more.

Dr. Michael Dando "Dope with Lime" Ep. 48

In this episode, we speak with Dr. Karen Cox, Professor of history at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. She is the author of multiple books, including "Dixie’s Daughters: The United Daughters of the Confederacy and the Preservation of Confederate Culture" and "Dreaming of Dixie: How the South Was Created in American Popular Culture." Her current book project explores the Rhythm Club fire, which took the lives of more than 200 African Americans in Natchez, Mississippi, in 1940.

Dr. Cox's work has appeared in the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, TIME magazine, Publishers Weekly, Smithsonian Magazine, and the Huffington Post.

We speak with her about the United Daughters of the Confederacy, monuments, and her latest project on the Rhythm Club fire.

Dr. Karen Cox "Dope with Lime" Ep. 49

This episode is a recording of "Celebrating Lillian E. Smith," an event that took place on March 20, 2024, at the Mason-Scharfenstein Museum of Art at Piedmont University. 

LES Center director Dr. Matthew Teutsch led a panel discussion on Smith's legacy and importance with Rev. Dr. Benjamin Boswell, Dr. Keri Leigh Merritt, and Dr. Jennifer Morrison. They engaged in a wide-ranging conversation about Smith's work, her pedagogy, and her role within the Civil Rights Movement.

Celebrating Lillian E. Smith "Dope With Lime" Ep. 50

In this episode of “Dope With Lime,” we speak with Dr. Michał Choiński, Assistant Professor of English Studies at Jagiellonian University in Krakow, Poland. We talk with him about teaching Lillian E. Smith in Poland and his recent visit to Piedmont College.

Michal Choinski "Dope With Lime" Ep. 1

In this episode of “Dope With Lime,” we speak with Dr. Eileen Boris, Hull Professor, Distinguished Professor of Feminist Studies, Professor of History, Black Studies, and Global Studies at the University of California Santa Barbara. We talk about how she discovered Lillian E. Smith, Smith's continued relvance, and the appearance of Smith's novel "Strange Fruit" (1944) in Chester Himes' "If He Hollers Let Him Go" (1945).

Note: We apologize. We had issues with the audio, so please bear with it in this episode.

Eileen Boris "Dope with Lime" Ep. 2

In this episode of "Dope with Lime," I speak with the Rev. Dr. Benjamin Boswell. He is the pastor at Myers Park Baptist Church in Charlotte, NC, and he is a former infantry officer in the U.S. Army. He also facilitates anti-racism training for whites entitled “What Does it mean to Be White?” Today, we will talk about Lillian Smith’s influence on his work, his anti-racism workshops, the connections between social justice work and religion, and Smith’s essay “The White Christian and His Conscience.”

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Benjamin Boswell "Dope with Lime" Ep. 13

On January 15, 2021, what would have been Martin Luther King, Jr’s 92nd birthday, we spoke with Marie Cochran at the LES Center. Marie is a visual artist, writer, and activist. She is the founding curator of the Affrilachian Artist Project which celebrates the intersections of cultures in Appalachia and highlights the unique perspective of people of African descent in the region. She is also the 2020-2021 Lehman Brady Visiting Professorship, at Duke University, Center for Documentary Studies and UNC–Chapel Hill, Department of American StudiesToday, we will discuss Martin Luther King, Jr., Lillian Smith, and Marie’s ongoing work.

Marie Cochran "Dope with Lime" Ep. 12

In this preview, Rose Gladney talks about why she keeps coming back to Lillian Smith's "The Journey" (1954).

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In this episode of "Dope with Lime," we speak with Dr. Rose Gladney, Professor Emerita of American Studies  at the University of Alabama. She has published extensively on the life and work of Lillian Smith including How am I to Be Heard? Letters of Lillian Smith and A Lillian Smith Reader which she co-edited with Lisa Hodgens. She has interviewed Paula Snelling, and Lillian’s relatives Esther Smith, Frank Smith, Annie Laurie Peeler, and Nancy Smith Fichter along with numerous former Laurel Falls campers.  Today, we are going to talk to Rose about her work and Smith’s continued influence.

Rose Gladney "Dope with Lime" Ep. 14

“Dope with Lime” is a production of the Lillian E. Smith Center at Piedmont College. Through interviews with scholars, artist residents, readers, and more, “Dope with Lime” discusses Lillian E. Smith’s life, work, and continued legacy. 

“Dope with Lime” was a column that Lillian E. Smith wrote in the pages of the literary journal that she co-edited with her partner Paula Snelling. Colloquially, the phrase referred to cutting the sweetness of Coca-Cola with lime juice. In her columns, Smith would us satire and bite to comment on Southern life and letters. The column was, for all intents and purposes, blog and podcast like, relaying Smith’s thoughts in a conversational and witty manner.

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