Excerpt:

DONDON:
I didn’t see you at the seedling’s celebration last night.

ESMERELDA:
Oh, I was there.

DONDON:
Oh you were?

ESMERELDA:
Yes.

DONDON:
Well, I didn’t see you.

ESMERELDA:
There were a lot of celebrants in attendance.

DONDON:
Yes.

ESMERELDA:
And the lighting was complicated.

DONDON:
Dappled and variations on indigo is how I would describe the lighting last night.

ESMERELDA:
Yes, me too. Exactly.

DONDON:
Dappled light makes it difficult to get a sense of the scope of a space.

ESMERELDA:
Yes, but it is also so pretty.

DONDON:
Pretty and confusing.

ESMERELDA:
Yes. 


DONDON:
Sometimes confusing at a party can be so fun.

ESMERELDA:
I think so too. But just sometimes. I think I would need to feel more comfortable and more welcome and known for confusing. I felt distinctly out of sync last night and wound up leaving after only about half an hour.

DONDON:
Oh, so maybe that is why I didn’t see you.

ESMERELDA:
The combination.

DONDON:
Right. Dappled and unknown.

ESMERELDA:
Dappled and unknown.

DONDON:
Dappled and unknown though could also be a safe haven for exploration and research.

ESMERELDA:
Yes, that is right and I was trying to convince myself to treat it as such, to imagine I was in another country, on another plane, with an unbeknownst to me collection of creatures but…I’m not sure. It just wasn’t working. I was too in between knowing and not knowing and couldn’t cleave the two apart.

DONDON:
I know exactly what you mean Esmerelda. The deep comfort of being a total stranger unresponsible for their effect on an interpersonal community landscape, graced with the allure of the other. 

ESMERELDA:
Yes. Precisely my friend. OR the alternate comfort and pleasure of being so entirely within the fold that moves and words flow freely and reception is expected.

DONDON:
I had a conversation with Hit Herbert who explained to me the radically different way that falcons see. 


ESMERELDA:
Radically different from who?

DONDON:
Most all creatures really.

ESMERELDA:
Oh. I didn’t know. Maybe that’s why I have such a hard time spending time with any of them.

The Long Conversation - SIGHT SPEED - July 25, 2021

K.M.D. - Before he was the supervillain MF Doom he was Zev Love X in KMD or (Kausing Much Damage). With the recent passing of one of the greatest rappers and record producers of all time with a particular talent in wordplay and a gift of repartee, I thought I would start from the beginning with the group that started it all.

2021 - 01 - 03 - 1600 - Gravy Train: K.M.D. - 2021-01-03

Chant and Dance featuring the rap/chant music of MC Yogi from his CD "Elephant Power" .

Miracle Mantra 2021-01-04

Excerpt:

Dondon: 
the last cracker in a package of crackers it’s always pretty lousy because it’s probably the most stale. 
 
ESMERELDA: 
well yes I’ll give you that but apropos of what? The cracker had nothing to do with it being the last cracker. 
 
Dondon: 
I know I was just thinking about some thing else about last Ness sometimes the last of some thing is a ruined or degraded version of that thing. No offense to Martha, 
 
ESMERELDA: 
I’m sure she will not take any offense. Sometimes my last cracker is very stale because I slow down when I am nearing the end of some thing like a sweet drink or cracker or fruit. I am trying to postpone The end. And consequently the juice turns sour the cracker turns stale the fruit rats. So what had been the last or should have been the last i.e. the penultimate cracker becomes the last eaten cracker. 
 

Dondon: 
I think I do something similar sometimes won’t finish the thing at all for the anxiety which such a momentous occasion seems to produce. 
 
ESMERELDA: 
my friend Ruff-Ruff used to do that, used to never finish anything because of the dire consequences of finishing being the last creating, the last eating, the last singing, the last song….I think it is a recognized strain of procrastination as well. 
 
Dondon: 
I think all procrastinations have that as one element. 
 
ESMERELDA: 
dondon, that is the same thing as being a strain of procrastination. You just said to me exactly what I had just said to you and you said it like it was a new thought. Were you even listening to what I said? Or did you not realize that the idea you are having while I am talking to you is coming from me.
 

Dondon: 
Oh, that’s interesting, do you mean like, I am unaware of the separation between our two minds? Like, while you are saying something I have so internalized our friendship that I think that your words are my idea?
 
ESMERELDA: 
Yes, maybe that is it. OR you are not really listening and we are coming to similar thoughts and I say what I am thinking and then you, not having really listened but preparing your own thoughts, say yours and don’t realize it is what I just said.
 
...

The Long Conversation - the last carrier pigeon - jan3, 2021

don’t look at the internet
don’t look at the internet
don’t look at the internet
you never know what sort of horror you might find

for instance i read an article recently
for instance i read an article recently
for instance i read an article recently
entitled
incidence of intentional vehicle–reptile collisions oh it was so lousy 
so lousy 
so lousy
(ahhhh) 
it said that the impact of vehicles on certain reptile species 
was well documented and population consequences of associated mortality from collisions with vehicles can be significant. 
   but not studied. that’s what it said it hadn’t yet been studied if it was intentional, so the essay i read said the authors documented the response of motor vehicle drivers listen, listen to this to a fake turtle, fake snake, an item frequently found on the road like a styrofoam cup and an inconspicuous control (they never said what that might mean). 
response was documented as a hit, miss, or rescue, rescue. response was documented as a hit, miss, or rescue, rescue. using log-linear analysis the study found evidence that reptile decoys were hit at a higher rate than by chance  a higher rate than by chance than a higher rate than by chance with approximately 2.7% of motorists intentionally hitting those re-reptiles. 
these results may be used to improve vehicle–reptile collision probability models and demonstrate the need for highly effective mitigation measures to prevent reptile access to roadways with moderate to heavy traffic volumes. cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry and don’t read the internet.

"Don't Look At The Internet" Song for The Long Conversation - January 4th 2020

Spark one up or lay one down for Psych Sunday Volume I on this afternoon's quarantine edition of Gravy Train. A selection of obscurely peculiar and outlandish numbers of some unknown names of the 60s.

Gravy Train: Psych Sunday (Vol I) 2021-01-10

Excerpt:

DONDON:
(muffled yelling) hello!

Hello!

Esmerelda? 

Hello?

ESMERELDA:
Oh ! hi dondon! I’m sorry! I forgot you were coming over. Give me a moment to unstack this stuff so you can come in. (huh, ugh,)

(esmerelda makes sounds of moving giant furniture, tree branches, oil bins….SFX of same? Revel in the throwing of sounds for a while.)

Do:
Wow, there really is a lot of stuff. Here. I can I help from this side?

ESMERELDA:
Well, I’m trying to be pretty careful
(sounds of things just crashing and breaking)

D
Ok, yea, I can see that

ESMERELDA:
(giant longish 10seconds??----loud CRASH, thud then silence)
I’m ok!

D
I think I’ve found a small tunnel I can crawl through.

ESMERELDA:
Great! Do that. come on in!

(struggles etc.)

D
Ok! Phew!
ESMERELDA:
Wonderful! Hello dondon! Welcome! I’m so happy to see you!! I’m sorry I forgot you were coming over to visit today!! I hope that wasn’t too much of a burden. A trial. A tribulation. A trigger. For you.

D
On the contrary Esmerelda, I enjoyed it immensely. Many has been my passing through doors and gates and breezeways and posterns and archways, double doors and French doors and felt dismayed by the banality of the entrance. Or exit. To move from one room to the other….to move from the outside to the inside to move from the inside to the outside to move, indeed from one environ to the next should be more momentous!! Should be more heraldry. More jollification! More carousal! Or more mourning. More contemplative tears. More ceremony! 

ESMERELDA:
Oh. I am so glad to hear it. I certainly enjoyed the suspense and labor on my part!

The Long Conversation - online meditation - January 10th 2020

No no no no no no no no no no
Oh yea
Oh oh yea
No no no no no no no no no no
Oh yea
Oh oh yea
No no no no no no no no no no
Oh yea
Oh oh yea
No no no no no no no no no no
Oh yea
Oh oh yea

YEA YEAAAAA
YEA
YEA YEAAAAA
YEA
YEA YEAAAAA
YEA
YEA YEAAAAA
YEA
YEA, YEA AA


No no no no no no no no no no
Oh yea
Oh oh yea
No no no no no no no no no no
Oh yea
Oh oh yea
No no no no no no no no no no
Oh yea
Oh oh yea
No no no no no 
No no no no no 
No no no no no 
No no no no no 
No no no no no 
Why not 
why not
Why not 
why not

"YES NO" Song for The Long Conversation, January 10th 2021

Packerverse 1 - 15 - 21

Packerverse 01 - 15 - 21

Excerpt:

"D
Sometimes I have to stumble and stutter my way to an idea.

ESMERELDA:
Yes. I as well, have landed clumsily and with a glaring inexactitude upon an idea in just this way. Sliding and falling and in the grasping of gravity for something to hold, something which just might make some sense I have inadvertently grabbed the very idea what was apt and proper.

D
But sometimes what is apt and proper, sometimes what these harried graspings grasp, is not what was being looked for. No, not at all. Not what was really sought after but when the idea lands in the hand you improvise a response to that…you weave that idea in. it is all an improvisation reliant upon the ideas that arise to buoy you in your fall.

ESMERELDA:
I have had the same realization.

D
These ideational guard rails, rope ladders & tree branches might be wildly inappropriate and yet we make them work!

ESMERELDA:
We make them work dondon.

D
It could be that you are trying to talk to your friend about translation, about how everything is translation---and not just the translation that a bird need undertake when visiting with a bear or a cloud need master to rain but the translation of even what you are trying to say and trying to feel and so, in this example, Esmerelda, do you see?? In this example, which I just grabbed because it was sitting there, on the sidelines of my consciousness, in this example about translation I am need to translate my theory about ideational improvisation and its necessary TRANSLATION. From the inside to the outside. The inside of our cavernous consciousness---in this example I grabbed for you I am exemplifying the very nature of this idea---and so, not only do we improvise and make each thought seem just or rational or sensible however unlikely an offering our idea fall offerings may be, we also offer ideas sneakily appropros. Meta, in this case.

ESMERELDA:
I think I like this idea very much dondon and I can see that something exciting just happened for you in working out this example and trying to explain to me just how it clarifies your point but this sort of circular logic is not funny for me. 

D
Oh, not funny you say?

ESMERELDA:
No, dondon. I sense a distinct lack of humor in the thought and your telling of it.

D
Oh!! Circles are so funny Esmerelda!! And pratfalls!! Even ideational falls are funny.

ESMERELDA:
Well, first off, I don’t think you can argue someone into finding something funny. I mean, well, maybe a little bit you can define a word or character that might illuminate an unyet unseen funny element but, if all is known and understood and still not causing tickle, well, there’s not much you can do. Second off. This may be funny or interesting but when you are explaining things like this to me, and I know I am guilty of doing it to you as well, when we are explaining something so vague and interior as watching our ideas fall in the cavernous ---errrr---cave ---of our consciousness than there is a rapt center of focus that is necessarily AWAY from our interlocutor.

D
Ugh, now you’ve just done it to me. You are right….there is a thin line between engaging and too vague to sustain.

ESMERELDA:
Yes. But I did understand your idea that when grasping for a thought other thoughts present themselves and we then redirect our ideas to incorporate those newly presented thought objects into the idea. Improvisation.

D
Yes, and we do it always and often without realizing!

ESMERELDA:
Our cavernous caves of consciousness are like bumper car tracks.

D
The bump. Do the bump.

ESMERELDA:
The bump is a great dance to celebrate the evolution of organisms and ideas.

D
But Esmerelda, you need to know that everything I say to you might not be so funny for you. I think that is part of friendship. Not everything I say will delight you. But I still need to say it. I still, well, I don’t need to say it but I still have to maintain the right and comfort to say it. You know? " ....

The Long Conversation - CAVE DWELLERS - February 28th 2021

Riverwest Radio 2

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