In this episode, we address some real shit: the narrative about police brutality and shootings, and the growing list of black victims, including Walter Scott. Our Would You Rather question is appropriately about the fine line between liberty and justice.

We were joined by a very special guest, Phillip Agnew who is Mission Director of the Dream Defenders (http://www.dreamdefenders.org). It was important that we elevate the conversation beyond our raw emotions of anger, frustration, and helplessness, and Phillip did exactly that. We talk about the history of police violence, the systemic roots that support prejudice behavior and the devaluation of black and brown lives, and how conscience-ness, empathy, and contribution can shift the narrative and positively impact the cultural dynamic.

While we do address a very serious issue, there's still some gigglin' going on! In true FSG fashion, we give you your weekly update on Ellen and another plug for #IreneEllenDanceBattle! There's a little update on the Water Cooler News regarding the APS Testing Scandal. No matter what’s going on, there’s always something playing in Irene’s Beats and this week it's inspired by current events, and the quote for the really sums up the entire episode.

...and then there were 3, eps that is!

Liberty Or Justice (Ft. Phillip Agnew)

Thoughtful, witty, and balanced conversation about a gamut of issues. The hosts, Irene & Shells, don’t have an agenda, they are simply talking about all things life related for sh*ts and giggles…and are often surprised by the entertaining banter and surprising insights that result.

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