In this first episode, recorded Fall 2016, Jacqueline Smith interviews Alison Gold about her work in learning design at The Presidio Institute. Alison (founder of Optimistic Anthropology) has a lot to say about design as an asset in cross-sector leadership.

Episode 1: Alison Gold on Design as an Asset

In this episode, recorded Spring 2016, Vincent Baxter interviews Caroline Hill about designing for racial equity in public education. Caroline (founder of DC Equity Lab and Chief of School Creation and Transformation at CityBridge Foundation) talks about the processes she uses to lead people to design collaboratively.

Episode 2: Caroline Hill

In this episode, recorded Spring 2017, Vincent Baxter interviews Tulaine Montgomery. Caroline (Managing Partner at New Profit and producer/host of New Profit's podcast Jump at the Sun) talks about using design venture philanthropy.