In this inaugural episode of our new collaborative show, Dr. Vinay Prasad (UCSF hematologist/oncologist) and Dr. Zubin Damania (AKA the hospitalist known as ZDoggMD) team up for a medical show designed to bring you up to speed on the weeks events with a nuanced, Alt-Middle perspective.

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 1: Medication, Mandates, Middle Ground

ZDogg and VP talk about the NYTimes' advice for kids during Thanksgiving, whether Fauci should step down, the evidence for a 22 year old healthy man who already got 2 doses of Moderna to get a 3rd dose, and more.

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 2: Kids Inside For Thanksgiving? Should Fauci Quit? Boosters 4 All?

For the week ending Dec. 1st 2021, VP and ZD dive into Dr. Oz running for the senate, the Omicron gambit, dumb travel restrictions, what the heck with boosters 4 all, poor quality science and biased scientific oversight, and MUCH more!

Please subscribe and leave a review, it helps a lot!

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 3: Dr. Oz, Omicron, Boosters, Saving Science

Dr. Marty Makary joins the fray for a science & reason SMACKDOWN 🔥 How many Omicrons does this register on the media fear-o-meter? Weigh in 😂👇

Video version, links, transcript, and more: https://zdoggmd.com/vpzd-4

Topics and time codes:

0:00 Intro

2:17 Boosters for All?

8:47 Young people + Covid, flawed CDC studies?

12:45 Natural immunity, Myocarditis, population risk vs. benefit

21:15 The narrative of simplicity and one-size-fits-all in public health

27:12 How we’re treating college students re: COVID quarantine, boosting, testing

30:45 Omicron, animal source?

34:08 Journalistic responsibility, and natural immunity revisited, what healthcare CEOS should do

43:28 Dr. Oz and the state of politics due to COVID disruptions in economy and freedoms

47:40 Socioeconomic status effects under COVID policies

53:59 Why so slow to learn more about vaccine resistance and omicron? The role of media

57:31 Therapeutics like fluvoxamine (Luvox) vs. molnupiravir

1:04:50 Zero COVID is a delusion, so focus protection where it matters

1:05:27 Fluvoxamine and the hydroxychloroquine/ivermectin debacle

1:08:23 Fauci’s foibles

1:12:12 Gain of function research

1:21:56 Listening to doctors

1:26:45 Pandemic of lunacy, gain of fear, and Fear-naught values

1:32:57 Cloth masks, and masking as distraction from real risks

1:34:58 Chemotherapy shortages

Please subscribe and leave a review, it helps a lot!

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 4: Omicron Panic, Natural Immunity, Fluvoxamine, Boosters, Fauci (w/ Dr. Marty Makary)

In this episode we dive into some emails Dr. Z received about hospital COVID policies and medical education (and how our leaders are screwing up), the problem with mandates in healthcare, and strongly negative feedback for us from a critical care nurse on the front lines about our vaccine messaging. 

In the news, we react to NPR’s piece saying Trump voters more likely to die of COVID, what is the nature of “misinformation” on both sides of the political spectrum, the challenges of quantitative journalism, the German study on kids and COVID risk, Pfizer omicron booster press release and surrogate endpoints, and Vinay’s policy proposals to make the COVID mess better.

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 5: Stifling Physician Voices, Politicized Journalism, German Kids Study, Policy Solutions

This week we dive into Dr. Z's personal booster decision, do vaccines reduce transmission in setting of variants like Omicron, Joe Rogan’s interview with Dr. Peter McCullough , the hypocrisy of physicians who demand masks and distancing and then do the opposite themselves, medical students speaking out against distance learning, new myocarditis trial data with implications for Moderna and spacing vaccines in general, meditation stuff, the problem with virtue signaling, the number needed to boot with vaccine passports to prevent 1 transmission, and MUCH MORE.

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 6: Rogan/McCullough, Boosters & Omicron, Myocarditis Trial Data, Virtue Signaling

Many questions addressed on this last episode of 2021! 
Should people who talk about COVID policy actually see COVID patients, and are doctors biased by their daily practice experience? 
How should holiday meals "safely" occur, and how can we understand risk and risk reduction? 
Are Vinay and Zubin wrong about the response around college students and COVID? 
Did Francis Collins try to discredit "fringe epidemiologist" Jay Bhattacharya and his colleagues instead of promoting dialog? 
Why is Dr. Z so sick of talking about COVID? 
Is Omicron milder than prior strains? 
Is myocarditis from vaccines in young men more common than myocarditis from natural COVID infection?

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 7: Your Date With Omicron, "Fringe" Scientists, Myocarditis, COVID & College Kids

In this Omi-sode:
1) Can omicron be mitigated AT ALL? The Bay Area experience currently.
2) Novak Djokovic and the COVID vaccine
3) Covidiots vs. Covidians, where is the Alt-Middle? Rogan's role.
4) The dumbest tweets of 2021
5) Who was most right about COVID policy?

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 8: Omicron Mitigation, Djokovic, Dumb COVID Tweets

We dive into Dr. Paul Offit's Atlantic piece on boosting teens, the nature of the CDC's apparent schizophrenia, the long term effects on the "pandemic generation," and how Omicron is causing all our prior policy dominoes to fall. Also: FUNNY TWEETS 🤓

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 9: Offit & Kids' Boosters, Schizo CDC, Omicron Dominoes Fall

Vinay and Z dive deep on the latest censored antithesis hero while trying to make sense of sense-making in general.

Here's Vinay's piece on this in Unherd: https://unherd.com/2022/01/we-need-to-talk-about-the-vaccines/

And here's the Rebel Wisdom episode on sense-making that I referenced: https://youtu.be/Q48G1kiMe3Y

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 10: Dr. Robert Malone's Joe Rogan Interview, Decoded

The docs talk about Vinay getting a booster or losing his job, why we continue to mask children, Pfizer's vaccine dance with the FDA around children younger than 5, the wisdom of trying to cancel Joe Rogan, Spotify's "trusted" COVID disclaimer, and the urgency of getting kids back to normal.

Check out urgencyofnormal.com for more on the latter. 

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 11: Booster Coercion, Vax 4 Toddlers, Canceling Rogan

In this episode: The badges of tribal identity for COVID thesis/antithesis tribes, "deplatforming" scientists and the conditioning of young people, liberals and conservatives trading places, aiming for post-cynical discourse, the perils of comparing nations' COVID outcomes, and the FDA's crazy <5 y.o. kids' vaccine EUA mess.

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 12: Tribalism, Deplatforming, FDA Kids' Vaccine Reversal

In this episode we discuss:

-Dr. Z's Twitter "bullying" of the California Academy of Sciences kids' museum over their restrictive booster/testing entrance policy (and why Z deleted Twitter at last) See also: https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/97446

-New data on the efficacy (or lack thereof) of Pfizer's vaccine in the 5-11 year old population and what this means for policy

-Why public health may need controls placed on it in the future to avoid restrictive policies that lack evidence (see also: https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/public-health-needs-restrictions?utm_source=url)

-Dr. Z debunks some antivaccine claims about a Swedish study on Pfizer's mRNA vaccine in liver cells

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 13: Kids' Museum COVID Policy, 5-11 y.o. Vax Efficacy, Public Health Restrictions

We're back! In this episode we talk: dumb COVID policies, mask shaming on both sides, Kyrie Irving vaccine controversy, worshipping Lord Zero COVID (Hong Kong and elsewhere), press coverage biases, a FOURTH booster shot, ethical considerations around pharma not providing meds to Russia, dumber college COVID policies, the deal with early treatments, Ash Jha and John Ioannidis, and the James Webb telescope and STEM inspiration.

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 14: Worship Lord Zero COVID, 4th Booster, Dumb Policies

In this episode: Ivermectin, the latest Twitter absurdities, vacation without COVID, Will Smith, why medical conferences SUCK, NYC's toddler mask policy, why so many academics leave for pharma, that 4th dose, and more!

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 15: Ivermectin, NYC Toddler Masks, Dumb Policies

Elon Musk & Twitter, Bill Maher & medical humility, lockdowns in China, declines in teen mental health, kids cloth masking, booster science, Dr. Ashish Jha, the nature of audience capture, the value of authenticity, imposter syndrome, and much more.

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 16: China Lockdowns, Teen Mental Health, Audience Capture

Elon Musk buys Twitter and what that may mean, group mind and the threat of nuclear holocaust, the conundrum of "physician influencers" on social media (the Dr. Risa Hoshino substack piece: https://sarahburwick.substack.com/p/who-is-risa-hoshino), Moderna's push to get EUA for it's vaccine in kids younger than 5, the Stanford nurses go on strike, challenges in academic medicine, should people in healthcare forge their OWN path, and much more!

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 17: Moderna For Kids, Physician-Influencers, Stanford Nurses Strike

CDC data collection, hepatitis in kids, Johnson & Johnson vaccine limited use, more on physician "influencers," the Roe V. Wade Supreme Court leaked draft decision, surprise medical billing, a nutty Twitter COVID story, seroprevalence of COVID in children, the White House Correspondents Dinner, annual COVID shots, Omicron's mortality, the "Pfizer documents" and more!

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 18: Supreme Court Abortion Decision & Crazy COVID Stuff

We talk with Dr. Rita Redberg (professor of medicine & cardiologist at UCSF) about how very often less is more when it comes to medical care. We cover cancer screening (PSA, mammograms, blood testing, colonoscopy, CT screening for lung cancer), the utility or lack thereof of genetic testing, medical devices, statins, hypertension guidelines and treatment, and much more!

This episode also is on video: zdoggmd.com/less-is-more

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 19: Less Is More Medicine (w/Dr. Rita Redberg)

We dive into the riddle of gun violence in America, violence against healthcare professionals, public health officials and closing schools, will we need an annual COVID shot and how would we study that, the emergence of monkeypox, and the Depp/Heard trial.

This episode also is available as a video: https://youtu.be/9i8cD4j4sQE

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 20: Guns, Vaccines, & Monkeys

Stanford medical school commencement ceremony, boosters for 5-11 year olds, Cat COVID, the end of pre-departure screening, VP's Oncology video drama, Twitter addiction and "second selfing," is continual feedback a good thing, San Francisco DA gets recalled, new immunotherapy for colorectal cancer, the importance of palliative care in oncology, and much more!

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 21: The Death Throes Of Covidian Culture (& Some Cancer Stuff 4 Tha' Clicks)

We deep dive into how our tribal divisions influence interpretations of science, ethics, and policy (topic list below):

Omicron-specific boosters
Data on severe disease prevention and booster rationale
The challenges of case-control data for kids' vaccination
Evidence-based morality, ethical and practical considerations around vaccine mandates
Ethical and practical considerations around cooking pizza at home
Does repeated COVID infection harm you
Law vs. science and second order effects of legal decisions
Tribal division and taking joy in the suffering of the out-group
Stanford med school dean abortion letter controversy
Policing language vs. real policy issues
Outrage culture
The abortion mess
Jonathan Haidt's "Great Untruths"
When Covidians turn on their own
Taking offense vs. assuming good intent and how to organically promote changes in language
When "science" museums behave like buttheads
Loyalty on the left vs. the right
Ayn Rand and young people
Iodinated salt and MORE

Video version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MKNQUALyWM
Here's that Offit interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLo2Wwa3NNA

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 22: Omicron Booster Science, Policy Ethics, Tribalism

How can you determine who is trustworthy when it comes to medical information? Our new project Sensible Medicine, untangling the complexities of health care reform, angry doctor Covidian tweets with magical thinking and religiosity, the dangers of over-testing and over-treatment with regards to routine blood work, Haidt’s 3 Great Untruths and cognitive distortions, pandemic response effect on true progressives, the consequences of ideological possession, how Vinay reviews the trustworthiness of sources, the difficulties of “debunking”, the monkeypox situation, and much more!

Check out our new Substack collaboration, Sensible Medicine: https://sensiblemed.substack.com/

Video version: https://youtu.be/jmebULFQWyw

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 23: Trust Issues, Sensible Medicine, Ideologic Possession

The saga of Dr. Leana Wen, omicron-specific boosters for the fall, low uptake for vaccinating kids <5 years old, is the American Academy of Pediatrics a broken and failed organization (https://sensiblemed.substack.com/p/the-aap-american-academy-of-pediatrics), Novak Djokovic and US vaccine mandates, inauthenticity and Dr. Oz, student loan forgiveness, the Thailand kids vaccine study and much more!

Check out our new Substack collaboration, Sensible Medicine: https://sensiblemed.substack.com/

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 24: Canceled Public Health Doc, AAP Fails, Dr. Oz

A Labor Day special! CDC recommends bivalent Omicron-specific boosters for everyone, the madness of the CO2 meter crowd, journalism's challenges, mean attending physician comments, the evolution of language, and more!

Check out our new Substack collaboration, Sensible Medicine: https://sensiblemed.substack.com/

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 25: Omicron Boosters 4 ALL, CO2 Meter Madness

VP and ZD celebrate the return of in-person conferences, lament the challenges of continued mandatory masking in healthcare settings, and talk about better ways to get at truth (yeah, I'm kinda phoning in the summary of this dope discussion this time, just listen already 😂 #quietquitting)

Video: https://youtu.be/B7V1RelMXwA

Check out our new Substack collaboration, Sensible Medicine: https://sensiblemed.substack.com/

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 26: Bivalent Boosters, Healthcare Masking, Sensible Medicine

We dive into the NYU professor who was fired cuz his class was too hard, the problems with screening for medical school admission, Dr. Glauckomfleken's maskless Twitter selfie thing and the nature of virtue signaling, why JEDI aren't woke enough according to Scientific American (cuz eugenics of course), a recent study on personality changes due to the pandemic, CRAZY liberal arts college masking policies, and much more!

Video: https://youtu.be/VZW76L7nqfw

Check out our new Substack collaboration, Sensible Medicine: https://sensiblemed.substack.com/

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 27: NYU Professor Fired, COVID Personality Changes, College Mask Madness

ZD joins me in VP studios for a broad discussion about colonoscopy, Florida's surgeon general Ladapo and Science magazine, and the new oath taken by UMN medical students during their White Coat ceremony, and MUCH more.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-LznMPkcnI&t=1407s

Check out our new Substack collaboration, Sensible Medicine: https://sensiblemed.substack.com/

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 28: Colonoscopy, Ladapo & Science Mag, UMN White Coat Oath

The boys are back in town! Topic list:

00:00 Verbal & non-verbal communication, listening & presence
02:43 The future of social media, Zuckerberg, Elon's authenticity, Twitter & the blue checkmark disaster
10:49 Z's alleged 30-millionaire status, calculating net worth, the importance of supporting content & creators you care about
14:54 Sensible Medicine & VP's Misinformation Police article, suppression of ideas vs. presenting a better counter-argument, the far left & tribal identity
27:08 Terrible midterm election predictions, Dr. Oz's inauthenticity & subsequent loss, pseudo-science "influencers"
33:26 America's Frontline Doctors & Simone Gold's alleged implosion
35:02 Masking kids & NEJM's paper, observational vs randomized control trials, bad science & its overlap with politics, myocarditis, MedScape & the attack on Mandrola
46:30 Insulin resistance, the pros & cons of glucose monitoring as "health entertainment", metabolic health, cold plunge
1:07:53 Bob Califf tweets & long Covid claims, Ashish Jha changes his tune
1:13:36 Authenticity, being seen for who you authentically are, ZDadd tech support, post-meditation retreat realizations
1:25:23 Predictions on the approaching world shift, final thoughts

Video: https://youtu.be/3Td098-gqpw

Check out our new Substack collaboration, Sensible Medicine: https://sensiblemed.substack.com/

Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast: vinayakkprasad.com/plenarysession
Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast: zdoggmd.com/z-blogg

More info for Vinay and Zubin at https://lnk.bio/zdoggmd and vinayakkprasad.com/bio

Ep. 29: The Misinformation Police Strike Out (& More)

Two doctors, one podcast, Alt-Middle as heck. Featuring Dr. Vinay Prasad (host of Plenary Session) and Dr. Zubin Damania (host of The ZDoggMD Show).

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