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When I Heard This - Episode 32 - The Title is Supposed to be Predetermination: Part One

Everyone loves the idea of starting a church… until the calling gets complicated. 😅

In this episode of When I Heard This, Nate and Pastor Joseph keep it real about what church planting actually looks like — the calling, the chaos, and the cost no one talks about. From emotional exhaustion to unexpected blessings, they unpack how obedience can feel messy, meaningful, and absolutely worth it.

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• The fine line between calling and burnout
• What really goes into planting a church (beyond Sunday mornings)
• Why obedience sometimes looks like chaos
• How to stay faithful when the cost feels high

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Episode 156 – Church Planting: Calling, Chaos, and the Cost

😳 Still carrying shame even after saying you’re forgiven? Yeah… you’re not the only one.

In this episode, Nate and Pastor Joseph dive into what shame really is, how it sticks, and why so many Christians still walk around burdened with what Jesus already dealt with. With their usual combo of sarcasm, honesty, and zero fluff, they unpack a deeply human struggle through a Gospel-centered lens.

🙌 This isn’t a lecture. It’s a real convo with real takes. Whether you’ve been in church forever or you’re figuring faith out on the fly—this one’s for you.

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Episode 157 – He Took the Shame Too

🎃 Should Christians celebrate Halloween… or steer clear of it? 👻

In Episode 158 – Haunted or Holy: Christians and Halloween, hosts Nate and Pastor Joseph dig into one of the most debated questions in the church—how should believers approach Halloween? From trick-or-treating and haunted houses to “fall festivals” and spiritual caution, this first part of the two-part series explores whether Halloween is harmless fun, cultural participation, or something deeper.

This episode blends humor, sarcasm, and genuine faith talk, making complex conversations about belief and culture feel real, relatable, and refreshingly unfiltered.

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Episode 158 – Haunted or Holy: Christians and Halloween

🎃 Should Christians celebrate Halloween—or leave it alone? 👻

In Episode 159 – Haunted or Holy, Pt. 2: A Christian Wrap-Up on Halloween, hosts Nate and Pastor Joseph finish their deep (and sometimes hilarious) dive into how believers should approach Halloween. From spiritual caution to cultural fun, they explore the tension between faith, fear, and fall festivals.

It’s funny, honest, and refreshingly real—just two guys talking about what everyone’s already thinking.

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Episode 159 – Haunted or Holy, Pt. 2: A Christian Wrap-Up on Halloween

What happens when revival turns into reality TV? 🔥

In Episode 160 – Charismatic Chaos: Faith, Fire, and the Fallout, Nate and Pastor Joseph dive headfirst into the world of Christian charismatics. From powerful worship moments to questionable “miracles,” they unpack what’s real, what’s hype, and how faith sometimes flirts with frenzy. It’s honest, funny, and just uncomfortable enough to make you think.

If you’ve ever side-eyed a “spirit-filled” service or wondered where emotion ends and discernment begins, this episode’s for you.

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Episode 160 – Charismatic Chaos: Faith, Fire, and the Fallout

Is it revival or just really enthusiastic chaos? 👀🔥
Welcome to part two of our deep dive into the world of Christian charismatics, where Nate and Pastor Joseph unpack the power, the tension, and the pushback surrounding modern charismatic faith. If you’ve ever wondered why Christians split into entire denominations over one tiny detail, or why some church services feel like a theology class and others feel like a concert with surprise special effects, this episode is your new favorite.

Nate and Pastor Joseph keep it honest, funny, and deeply relatable as they break down the history, controversies, and personal stories behind charismatic Christianity. Expect sarcasm, nuance, laughter, and the kind of real talk you wish more churches would make space for. Perfect for Christians, skeptics, and everyone in between.

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Episode 161 – Charismatic Chaos, Pt. 2: The Power and the Pushback

What actually counts as Christian leadership… and why does it fall apart so often inside the church?

In this episode, Nate and Pastor Joseph dig into the truth about leadership in the church and why so many believers end up confused, hurt, or just straight-up annoyed by how authority works in different Christian spaces. They break down what healthy spiritual leadership looks like, how influence can be used well or misused fast, and why accountability matters way more than titles or stage presence. It’s honest, funny, and a little uncomfortable in the best way possible, especially if you’ve ever wondered why leadership feels so different from church to church.

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Episode 162 – The Truth About Christian Leadership in the Church

What does Christian leadership look like when it actually leaves the church building and enters your real life? 👀

In Episode 163, Nate and Pastor Joseph take the conversation home. Literally. From family rhythms to friendships to the quiet places where character shows up (or doesn’t), this episode breaks down what spiritual leadership looks like in everyday life. Honest, sarcastic, relatable, and way more practical than you’d expect, this one digs into the kind of leadership that people actually feel.

If you’ve ever wondered how to lead well beyond Sunday mornings, this is your episode.

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Episode 163 – Christian Leadership at Home and in Life

Leadership does not end when the service does.

This episode continues part two of the conversation on Christian leadership, shifting the focus away from church roles and toward real life. What does leadership look like at home, in marriage, with kids, at work, and in friendships when there is no platform, no applause, and no title attached.

Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman talk through the gap many people feel between church language and everyday behavior. The discussion hits on expectations placed on Christians, the pressure to lead well outside the building, and why faith feels harder and more honest once Sunday is over. It is less about authority and more about consistency, accountability, and how leadership shows up when no one is watching.

The conversation stays grounded, sarcastic in the right places, and realistic about how messy faith and relationships can be. Whether you are deeply involved in church, loosely connected, or somewhere in between, this episode creates space to question what Christian leadership actually means in real life.

Hosted by Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman, this episode reflects the kind of conversation people usually save for the drive home or the group chat after church. Thoughtful, direct, and very aware of how complicated faith and culture can be.

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Episode 164 – Christian Leadership After the Service

What happens when a comedian asks a pastor whatever he wants?? 😮

In the "When I Heard This" podcast, comedian Nate Robinsoff asks Pastor Joseph Tillman, M.Div. whatever questions he can think of about church in America, the Bible, Christianity, cults, sex, and well really anything! He doesn't hold much back 🤣.

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