Live from Phoenix, Arizona. The Magic win their first game of this three-game West road trip. Orlando’s win streak extends to 6 consecutive victories. The Magic are continuing to adjusting to not having Paolo Banchero by continuing to suffocate opponents with stellar defense. Franz Wagner fresh off his first NBA Eastern Conference Player of the Week award once again had over 30 points. Anthony Black dropped a season-high 20 points. The Suns didn’t have Durant, Beal, or Nurkic, and no one could stop Goga Bitadze in the paint. The Magic are 9-6 and still the third seed in the East.

It was a great game to witness while sitting courtside. First Magic win in Phoenix since 2018.

All of that and more!

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141. Dispatch From Phoenix: Magic Sixth Straight Win Sets Suns

In an offseason where the Magic don’t have the ability to pay much for free agents, we have to trade our way to improvement. I can’t think of a bigger potentially available target than Giannis Antetokounmpo. NBA champion, multi-time MVP, he’s won Defensive Player of the Year. He’s been the face of the NBA for the past few years, whether American media recognizes that or not. He’s again an MVP finalist this season. He’ll be 31 years old in December. Still his prime. I want Gianni to be a one NBA team player. Gianni wants to stay a Buck. But he also wants to win more NBA championships. Milwaukee can’t offer that now. There’s no Jrue Holiday deal to be made. They’re capped out and out of assets to trade. They have no picks to send out. So if Gianni wants another NBA title in the next few years, he’s going to have to orchestrate a trade somewhere. And I don’t know of a better destination for him than Orlando. 

All of that and more!

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169. Giannis Antetokounmpo

We got a look at how our future stacks up against the present in the playoffs. Paolo and Franz versus Tatum and Brown. Our stars overall outplayed their champion stars. The difference was the supporting casts. Now we’re getting a good look at what happens when your title winning team has to be torn down because of Collective Bargaining Agreement restrictions. Derrick White, Jrue Holiday, and Kristaps Porzingis all can be had in trades because the Celtics need to get below the second apron. Tatum is only 27 years old and tore his damn Achilles. That used to be something that only happened in your mid-30s and later in life. Now it’s happening to MVP-level guys in their prime. Which for our front office should be heeded as a warning to not wait when you have two stars ready for much more. Should we go after a Celtic?

All of that and more!

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170. White, Jrue, Porzingis

It’s going to be an OKC Thunder-Indiana Pacers duel for the championship. Which means welcome to the Rob Hennigan NBA Finals. Unfortunately, courtesy of the June 23, 2016 Victor Oladipo-Ersan Ilyasova-Domantas Sabonis for Serge Ibaka Thunder trade that got both the Thunder and Pacers here to this stage. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Jalen Williams (the good one), and Tyrese Haliburton do not end up on their franchises without Hennigan.

All of that and more!

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171. The Rob Hennigan NBA Finals

They spent 4 years creating it, but for the first time since 2010 the Orlando Magic have rebranded themselves. Ushering in the new Paolo-Franz era with a look that the team believes will mesh the past with the future. There’s a new blue color, new logos, new fonts, and new jerseys. There’s genuinely some good, some meh, and some bad eliminates to this rebrand.

All of that and more!

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172. New Orlando Magic Rebrand Revealed

It seems like Cleveland media is trying to get Darius Garland dealt away for Jalen Suggs. The Magic need point guard help, but would this make sense? Are there any other Cavaliers player targets? Plus, a bit more Orlando Magic rebrand merchandise talk and a dislike of cursive. 

All of that and more!

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173. Garland, Jerome, Jarrett Allen

Jeff Weltman said he’d be aggressive this offseason, and he has not wasted time pulling off this big time Father’s Day deal with the Memphis Grizzlies to acquire Desmond Bane in the middle of the NBA Finals. The Orlando Magic had to give out Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Cole Anthony, the 16th pick of the 2025 Draft, their 2026 pick that is tied to a Wizards-Suns pick swap, an unprotected 2028 first, a top-2 protected 2029 pick swap, and a 2030 unprotected first round selection. It seems like a massive amount for a player who has not been named an All-Star, but Bane fits this roster on and off the floor and fills many needs. He’s in his prime and under contract through the 2029 season. 

There’s addition by subtraction occurring in that trade price tag. But the Magic are on paper better with Bane, and they didn’t have to give up Jalen Suggs, Anthony Black, or Tristan Da Silva. Bane is theoretically now the Magic’s starting ‘point guard’ with his diverse skill set. This a message to the rest of the Eastern Conference that the Magic believe they can be a title contending team now. Bane will wear the #3 pinstriped jersey. This shouldn’t be the only notable roster change for this offseason. 

Also, Franz Wagner commits to playing for the German national team at EuroBasket 2025. 

All of that and more!

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174. Here Comes the Bane

A very important week is here for the Magic. A two-night Draft where Orlando currently holds the 25th, 46th, and 57th picks. Will they use all three? Do we see trades and/or cash considerations make an appearance? Decisions still need to be made on the team options for Moritz Wagner and Caleb Houstan. And then free agency begins the night of June 30th before a Paolo Banchero contract extension announcement occurs.

Orlando has some roster gaps to fill after the Desmond Bane trade. There’s still a need for a sixth man scorer, point guard bench help, and a look at the center position. So of the draft, trade, and free agency options available, which routes get taken? 

All of that and more!

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175. Filling in Gaps; Draft Time

The Orlando Magic have a new look to the franchise’s business management. Alex Martins is stepping down as CEO. Ryan and Cole DeVos ascend. We drafted two players in Jase Richardson and Noah Penda. And after declining the team options on Gary Harris and Cory Joseph, we have also declined the team options for Mo Wagner and Caleb Houstan on the eve of free agency. Tyus Jones, Gary Trent Jr., Brook Lopez are the types of names to look out for. We should also be hearing soon about a Paolo Banchero extension.

All of that and more!

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176. Penda Express, J-Rich II, Free Agency

He’s been in the Orlando Magic rumor mill for at least the last 18 months. Tyus Jones is reportedly coming to Orlando on a 1-year deal. A great addition in the first hours of free agency. We get our steady backup point guard presence with an amazing assist-to-turnover ratio and who can also hit 3s. Jones also gets to reunite with Desmond Bane. 

It’s appearing more likely that Moritz Wagner will re-sign with the team. Depending on what salary the front office is trying to sign him at, the Magic may have to dump another salary to clear enough cap space. Jett Howard, Goga Bitadze, Jonathan Isaac, and even Wendell Carter Jr. could be candidates. And then we also await Paolo Banchero’s contract extension announcement.

All of that and more!

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177. Tyus Jones to Orlando

Paolo Banchero’s 5-year rookie max extension is now official. No surprise there. 

Contracts are being officially signed around the league with the moratorium period over. Jase Richardson and Noah Penda have signed and are preparing for Vegas Summer League. Tyus Jones and the returning Moritz Wagner have officially signed as well. Jamahl Mosley’s coaching staff should be stronger as well with the additions of Joe Prunty and God Shammgod. 

Things are looking promising with the Magic. The roster currently stands at 14 players. Will it remain that way going into the season, or is Jeff Weltman not done yet?

All of that and more!

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178. Paolo Bankero; Moritz Returns; Coach Upgrades

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