Today on our occasionally-running show where we talk about non-Brandon Sanderson stuff, we are talking about Shadow & Bone season 2!

This episode we have Eric (Chaos), Ian (Weiry), Jessie (Lady Lameness), Lucy (Empress), Verónica (Cheyenne Sedai).

00:00 Intros / What Grisha Order are You
5:09 Show and Tell
16:02 What We've Read/Watched
26:08 Season 1 Thoughts
30:45 Season 2 (Show only) 
1:17:21 Full Book Spoilers

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Shadow & Bone Season 2 | Splintercast

It's time for a Mistborn Shardcast! We have learned a lot of new stuff of Hemalurgy in The Lost Metal, so let's talk in extensive detail about those two chapters, and then talk about Hemalurgy implications for the future!

This episode has Eric (Chaos), Evgeni (Argent), and David (Windrunner).

Chapters:

00:00 Introductions and Show & Tell
4:18 Hemalurgy Fundamentals 
16:08 Partial Hemalurgy Spikes
1:03:25 Ars Arcanum
1:55:08 Trellium 
2:11:41 Other Thoughts 
2:17:50 Who's That Cosmere Character 

Here are some of the other episodes and videos we referred to in this podcast:

Hemalurgy 2018: https://youtu.be/hLM7hql2zFo?si=TgTkBe-wRblY_3_A
White Sand Omnibus: https://youtu.be/BEm5TmHAKw4?si=lpScba-QPBRjikjM
Our Brandon Interview: https://youtu.be/rkCP04Wo1Ho?si=ZAmOuSu7mlvZLJ60
Black Smoke / Midnight Essence: https://youtu.be/7o5DVWANF64?si=ypq2m9TR1gQ8qvOy
Harmony: https://youtu.be/C-Qa5zNS57Q?si=X280mEKTNBpOpwRS

Secrets in Stained Glass (our Mistborn actual-play): https://youtu.be/VneUfsu3RrU?si=KppT1qPDLXh8x4Vh

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Hemalurgy

Oh my goodness, everyone. We have SO many Words of Brandon episodes ahead of you. We're going out of order, with the Dragonsteel 2023 Spoiler Q&A! And sorry Lift-dragon enjoyers, that theory is dead! We also talk about a surprising amount of Warbreaker stuff, Zane, Mistborn: Birthright, and Alyx solves Silverlight. Some of those are even vaguely relevant to what we are talking about and not just nonsense.

This episode we have Eric (Chaos), Ian (Weiry), Alyx (Feather), Evgeni (Argent), and David (Windrunner)! Thanks, Alyx, for being a champ with our nonsense.

Dragonsteel 2023 Spoiler Q&A: https://youtu.be/fDm5Hif5rQo?si=rpVcPfWKjlmFsSPQ
Our Arcanum collection of the WoBs we discussed: https://wob.coppermind.net/collections/1230/

00:00 Introduction, Dragonsteel VIP Access for some reason
9:29 Is Nightblood a Dawnshard?
11:57 Does Rsyn have a Torment? 
13:22 How good is Taln in a fight really?
16:56 Is Hoid able to use Soulstamps
26:36 Why can't Hoid Skip but Nomad can? (also random SiSG stuff)
34:34 Mistborn burning anti-lerasium
39:41 Making Lifeless out of chasmfiends
46:41 Dragon lift is DEAD (and other dragon WoBs)
1:06:02 Mistborn: Birthright blabbering 
1:09:19 Are spores and fabrials affect by God Metals?
1:13:09 Animal bonds with aethers
1:18:02 Black smoke!
1:20:31 Color and Soulcasting
1:29:24 Dragon magic system 
1:32:11 Manifested metal and burning it
1:39:41 Who's That Cosmere Character 

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The Dragon-Lift Theory is Dead! | Dragonsteel 2023 Words of Brandon Part 1

Today on our eternal string of Words of Brandon episodes, we are continuing to talk about what happened from Dragonsteel 2023. And in this case we learn about the GRAND APPARATUS and a lot of WoBs about Hoid's dating life. Also, there's a legitimately serious Stick discussion. Yes, really.

This episode we have Eric (Chaos), Ian (Weiry), Alyx (Feather), Evgeni (Argent), and Joshua (jofwu)!

Our thumbnail today is not the Grand Apparatus, but actually Cybertron by Jaime Jasso: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/4rvn1

Dragonsteel 2023 Spoiler Q&A: Dragonsteel 2023 Spoiler Q&A: https://youtu.be/fDm5Hif5rQo?si=rpVcPfWKjlmFsSPQ
Our Arcanum collection of the WoBs we discussed: https://wob.coppermind.net/collections/1238/

Chapters:
00:00:00 Introductions
00:01:49 Oathgate mechanics
0:04:19 Hoid dating dragons
0:08:58 Hoid dating Shards
11:04 Aether homeworld name except Brandon doesn't know how to say it
15:05 The Admiral is protagonist of Night Brigade 
17:23 Overcoming Torments with soulstamps
18:47 BUG MRAIZE
24:02 THE GRAND APPARATUS
40:15 Skybreaker armor spren
46:14 Suppression fabrials on Radiants and Fused
48:32 Hoid punching Kelsier in his current state
51:13 Hoid and Nightblood
52:39 Types of Aviar
55:28 Night Brigade following Nomad but not Hoid
57:48 Hoid and Hemalurgic spikes
1:03:39 What does silver do?
1:06:41 Truthwatcher Surges
1:13:36 Oaths Hoid swore
1:17:17 Cinderhearts and Amaram
1:20:02 Did Renarin figure out Adolin killed Sadeas? 
1:25:58 Who's That Cosmere Character

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The GRAND APPARATUS! (And Tons of Hoid WoBs) | Dragonsteel 2023 Words of Brandon Part 2

We're back with more WoBs, and this time it's the last of the Dragonsteel 2023 Words of Brandon. Today we have a grab bag of a bunch of random stuff, like kandra babies, stabbing Hoid with atium, Harmony lying, and the IDENTITY FIELD returns. 

This episode we have Ian (WeiryWriter), Evgeni (Argent), and Grace (thegatorgirl).

Our thumbnail today is a piece we commissioned from Ashley Coad (https://www.ashleycoadart.com/). By supporting our Patreon, you can vote on what art we commission every month! Here's this awesome piece: https://www.patreon.com/posts/december-2023-98742446

Dragonwoodshop's frame for the Year of Sanderson postcards: https://dragonwoodshop.com/products/postcard-display-3-slot

Our Arcanum collection of the WoBs we discussed: https://wob.coppermind.net/collections/1239/

Chapters:

00:00 Introductions
4:37 Other forms of Investiture to Awaken stuff
11:06 Can people other than yoki-hijo negotiate with spirits?
16:28 How much knowledge does a new Vessel get?
26:20 Why did the Heralds think they needed to leave their Blades?
28:46 Vin's earring
30:47 Enhanced Leeching on a normal person
38:47 Why do only the Heralds have magical maladies?
44:36 Dawnshards and Splintered Shards
50:39 Kandra and human babies hybrids??
51:52 The Shroud and tin
56:03 Editorial changes from arcanist comments 
59:38 Was Harmony lying at the end of Lost Metal?
1:03:51 Holding Vessels in Hemalurgic spikes 
1:07:35 Shallan alter's shapeshifting 
1:09:28 Shades attacking non-Threnodites
1:12:19 Canticle's subastral
1:14:53 Was Yolen technologically advanced? 
1:18:16 Spiking atium into Hoid's chest
1:21:00 Aux and Nomad's bond is kind of flipped, can this happen to Adolin and Maya?
1:28:14 Who's That Cosmere Character

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Shards Changing Intents?? | Dragonsteel 2023 Words of Brandon Part 3

It's been two years since Brandon's huge Year of Sanderson announcement, so we thought we'd talk about how we feel about it. How tired are we? What was our favorite Secret Project? How were the Year of Sanderson boxes?

Do note we recorded this prior to the Words of Radiance leatherbound announcement of yet another Secret Project, so please keep that in mind. There's a new one coming in 2025 and we get a reading on March 21st. 

This episode we have Eric (Chaos), Ian (Weiry), Evgeni (Argent), Ene (Aon Ene), and Kendra (little wilson)!

Postcard display: https://dragonwoodshop.com/products/postcard-display-3-slot
Pin display: https://dragonwoodshop.com/products/pin-display-2x3inch-slots

Chapters:

00:00 Introductions & News (But not SP5)
10:12 Year of Sanderson, Brandon (Not) Dying, How Tired Are You
17:06 Titles Being Spoilers
25:10 Exhausted by Brandon Content, Cosmere Drought, Industry stuff
45:33 Favorite of the Secret Projects 
1:09:23 Subscription Boxes
2:01:46 Who's That Cosmere Character

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Year of Sanderson Retrospective

We have the announcement for Secret Project 5, and it's called Isles of the Emberdark, and oh boy... it sure is high cosmere connectivity! There's so much to discuss, so let's dig in. We also discuss the announcement itself, so feel free to skip to 30:52 for discussion of the chapters!

This episode we have a very special guest, Steve of the wonderful cosmere YouTube channel, ReadAndFindOut (https://www.youtube.com/c/ReadAndFindOutCosmere), which you should all check out because he does great explainers. It was lovely to have him on! We also have Eric (Chaos), Veronica (Cheyenne Sedai), Ene (Aon Ene), and Ala (Rasarr)!

Words of Radiance campaign: https://www.backerkit.com/c/projects/dragonsteel/words-of-radiance-leatherbound
Brandon's announcement video: https://youtu.be/X9HEKnswsy0?si=P1XG1vIQ4_OqnMOi
Isles of the Emberdark sample chapters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0L06Y37W70
Brandon's stream with Isles of the Emberdark's artist: https://www.youtube.com/live/xjsKRmXaPcA?si=LxwBnWalZj2ri6lZ

Veronica's article on Audible: https://www.17thshard.com/news/brandon-news/brandon-works-with-audible-for-a-historic-deal-in-the-audiobook-industry-r1039/
Old Sixth of the Dusk 2 reading: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/448-row-release-party/#e14408
Our old Sixth of the Dusk 2 podcast: https://youtu.be/kM0sfy7IzXU?si=SyQJK_iZk3_e6M5D

0:00 Introductions
1:54 Intro thoughts on the announcement 
10:46 Flashbacks thoughts and Emberdark
23:35 Other Words of Radiance campaign news 
30:52 Prologue
46:35 Chapter 3
1:04:01 Chapter 11
2:02:08 Who's That Cosmere Character

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Isles of the Emberdark Previews (ft. ReadAndFindOut)

Brandon held a spoiler livestream for Koloss Head Munching Day 2023 (his birthday). While a lot of questions are apparently going to be answered in book 5 of The Stormlight Archive, Wind and Truth, there still was plenty to talk about dragons, specific Mistborn Era 2 details, and Plato's allegory of the cave!

This episode we have Eric (Chaos), Evgeni (Argent), Shannon (Grey), Joshua (jofwu), and Ene (AonEne).

Our Arcanum collection of the WoBs we discussed: https://wob.coppermind.net/collections/1248/

Chapters:

00:00:00 Introductions
00:06:26 Valor's Vessel
00:10:54 Arcanum Unbounded Leatherbound
00:17:53 Stormlight Title Ketek
00:21:17 Stormlight 5 not Stones Unhallowed
00:22:08 Stormlight Scene that Brandon has always wanted to write
00:24:36 Shallan Futuresight? Spiritual Mumbo Jumbo!
00:30:23 Will we see Xisis again?
00:36:53 Can Harmony control people on other planets?
00:39:38 More books with Tress?
00:42:03 Szeth's Highspren
00:48:17 Nightstreet gang victim that Wax should investigate
00:53:30 Stormlight Back Half Prologues
01:01:47 Why did Taln not break?
01:07:22 Dragon Lifecycle
01:17:08 Gender-neutral bathroom on Malwish ship
01:22:49 Will we see dragons in action before Dragonsteel?
01:24:51 Spiritual Ideals vs Platonic Ideals
01:35:49 Moash's Black Uniform
01:41:43 Does Axies have a Torment?
01:48:16 Was Mare a kandra?
01:49:45 Nightblood's Creation
02:01:16 Who's that Cosmere Character?
02:12:46 Outro

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Wind and Truth and Find Out! | December 2023 Spoiler Stream Words of Brandon

The Words of Brandon never end, and we are wrapping up the December spoiler stream. This episode we... kind of learn something about the final Shard. We also go on a massive history lesson about it, which is possibly entertaining. There's also tons of Yumi WoBs!

Today we have Eric (Chaos), Ian (Weiry), Evgeni (Argent), who doesn't speak this language, and lastly we have David (Windrunner)!

Watch the full stream here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VryNgoZY7fo

Here are the WoBs we talked about in this episode: https://wob.coppermind.net/collections/1250/

Dragonsteel Prime sample chapters: https://www.brandonsanderson.com/dragonsteel-prime-chapter-25-bridge-four-1/

0:00 Introductions
4:30 Can Odium's champion not be native to Roshar?
6:01 Are Odium and Cultivation aware of Thaidakar?
9:50 Is the Shroud made of Identity?
14:26 The Sixteenth Shard!? Also all the Ingenuity stuff 
43:20 Yoki-hijo initiation
49:24 Can Yumi travel offworld?
1:01:44 Is Iron Seven Waystation a space station?
1:06:57 Yellow hion
1:11:28 UTol visible through the Shroud
1:15:24 UTol's significant to the cosmere
1:19:26 Did Komashi ecology survive?
1:21:35 What else could yoki-hijo actually do?
1:43:01 Who's That Cosmere Character 

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The Last Shard!? | December 2023 Spoiler Stream Words of Brandon Part 2

We're finally wrapping up 2023 Words of Brandon, with WoBs hot off the presses like things our Brandon interview last July and other odds and ends. But there's still some interesting stuff, like silver, Reliquaries, and more!

This episode we have Eric (Chaos), Ian (Weiry), Ben (Overlord Jebus), and Verónica (Cheyenne Sedai)! 

Our Brandon interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkCP04Wo1Ho&t

Thumbnail art is Backlit by Wonder, by Aliya Chen: https://coppermind.net/wiki/File:Backlit_by_Wonder_by_Aliya_Chen.jpg

0:00:00 Introductions
0:02:51 Charlie 
0:09:12 Is Yumi immortal now? + raysium dagger thoughts 
0:15:37 Lots of silver
0:21:52 Lutha
0:23:50 Father machine's Command
0:25:40 Rat skulls glow
0:26:34 Horneater 
0:28:58 Who is the most Invested? 
0:41:57 Could yoki-hijo use other magical effects 
0:46:05 Father machine and Taking Memories
0:49:18 Paintbrush similarity to Shardblades
0:50:34 How are Threnodites so well known?
0:55:12 Disease magic 
0:59:34 Shades and the Reliquaries
1:05:06 Could Hoid get rid of his Torment?
1:09:20 Who's That Cosmere Character

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Who's the Most Invested? | The Final 2023 Words of Brandon

It's time to talk about our thoughts for Stormlight 5, titled Wind and Truth, coming this December! Who's going to die??

This episode we have Eric (Chaos), David (Windrunner), Grace (thegatorgirl), and Verónica (Cheyenne Sedai).

Please note we recorded this last June, so newer things like the interlude or the new Shallan chapters aren't mentioned here. But I hope if you read those, you get a kick out of some of our comments :)

Here are the relevant posts and readings we did discuss:
Prologue: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/495/#e15580
Kaladin ch 1 and 2: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/508/#e15921
Szeth flashback 1-2: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/504/#e15784
Szeth flashback 3: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/508/#e15913

Stormlight 5 update 2 (featuring our thumbnail art of Dalinar by Peter Panev): https://www.reddit.com/r/Stormlight_Archive/comments/11qnpnm/stormlight_five_update_2/

0:00:00 Introductions
0:02:59 What are you excited about? 
0:14:01 Structure
0:31:14 Kaladin & Szeth
0:50:43 Shallan 
1:07:51 Adolin, Dalinar
1:35:10 Other characters
1:42:41 Contest of Champions, Deaths
1:59:38 Stormfaker?
2:12:04 Last Thoughts 
2:15:54 Who's That Cosmere Character

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