EP X — Kristian Koreman, founding principal of ZUS, an award-winning Dutch firm working in the fields of architecture, urbanism and landscape design, discusses the designer’s responsibility in shaping urban politics and how economic constraints can be turned into possibilities.

Recorded from Business of Design Week in Hong Kong

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Hosted by Gabriel Stromberg
Edited by Corey Gutch
Engineered by Dave West for London Bridge Studio
Mixed and Produced by Erik Blood
Intro music: “Reagan” by THEESatisfaction

Risk / Opportunity — Kristian Koreman of ZUS

EP XI — Max Dautresme, founder of Substance, a multi-disciplinary design studio in Hong Kong, Paris and Stockholm, discusses how Substance stays true to the craft of design while working with major clients and how they find inspiration in the downtime. 

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Intro music: “Reagan” by THEESatisfaction

Style and Substance — Max Dautresme


EP XII — Robert Vazquez-Pacheco, a member of Gran Fury, the activist arts collective that created protest graphics in the 80's and 90's to raise awareness for the AIDS epidemic, discusses the importance of clarity in Gran Fury's messaging, their use of controversial guerrilla tactics that forced people to engage in their work, how they played the art world to fund their public works, and turning anger, fear, and grief into action. 

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Hosted by Gabriel Stromberg
Edited by Corey Gutch
Mixed and Produced by Erik Blood
Intro music: “Reagan” by THEESatisfaction

Strategic Interruptions — Robert Vazquez-Pacheco of Gran Fury

EP XIII — Experimental Jetset, one of the most influential and respected design firms in the world, discusses their new book “Statement and Counter-Statement,” how their design practice uniquely operates like something they call Total Football, how they designed their iconic "John & Paul & Ringo & George" t-shirt and who they design for when they design.

This is Part 1 of our conversation with Experimental Jetset.

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Hosted by Gabriel Stromberg
Edited by Corey Gutch
Mixed and Produced by Erik Blood
Intro music: “Reagan” by THEESatisfaction

Turning Words Into Objects, Part I — Experimental Jetset

EP XIV — Amsterdam-based graphic design firm Experimental Jetset discusses how they landed the Whitney Museum rebrand, the differences between European and American design influences, why they chose so many years ago to use only sans serif typefaces, and what the visual language of the modernists is.

This is Part 2 of our conversation with Experimental Jetset.

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Hosted by Gabriel Stromberg
Edited by Corey Gutch
Mixed and Produced by Erik Blood
Intro music: “Reagan” by THEESatisfaction


Turning Words Into Objects, Part II — Experimental Jetset

EP XV — Artists, designers, activists and entrepreneurs, Adria Garcia and Davora Lindner, sit down for a conversation on fusing art and style into every day, staying true to your ethics as a business-owner, and how supporting the creative community can be a natural extension of business.

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Hosted by Gabriel Stromberg
Edited by Corey Gutch
Engineered by Dave West for London Bridge Studio
Mixed and Produced by Erik Blood
Intro music: “Reagan” by THEESatisfaction

Making Room for Artists — Adria Garcia & Davora Lindner

EP XVI — Ted Vadakan and Angie Myung, founders of the LA-based art and design brand, design retailer and community space, Poketo, discuss how they got their start, their mission of making art accessible for everyone, and their positions as both business leaders and creatives.

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Hosted by Gabriel Stromberg
Edited by Corey Gutch
Mixed and Produced by Erik Blood
Intro music: “Reagan” by THEESatisfaction

Do Everything and Do It Well — Poketo

EP XVII — California-based object designer and artist Eric Trine discusses the evolution of the color pink, being part of the West Coast design movement, and incorporating play into his work and his brand. 

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Edited by Corey Gutch
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Intro music: “Reagan” by THEESatisfaction

West Coast Modernist — Eric Trine

EP XVIII — Seminal graphic designer Archie Boston discusses his provocative posters from the 60's and 70's, the designer's role as activist, and his recent work for the Black Lives Matter movement. 

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Edited by Corey Gutch
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Intro music: “Reagan” by THEESatisfaction

Pushing Boundaries — Archie Boston

EP XIX — Graphic designer, educator, and artist Karel Martens shares why inquiry and investigation are so important to the creative process, how he has balanced five decades of independent and client work, and why he considers the color green to be a small miracle. 

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Edited by Corey Gutch
Engineered by Dave West for London Bridge Studio
Mixed and Produced by Erik Blood
Intro music: “Reagan” by THEESatisfaction

Karel Martens — The Godfather of Dutch Graphic Design

Beyond This Point is a series of conversations engaging the creative thinkers who inspire us. 

Each episode, Gabriel Stromberg, Creative Director of Civilization, sits down with artists, business owners, designers, and leaders of all types to put a spotlight on different ways of seeing, thinking, and making.

Beyond This Point is produced by Civilization, a design firm that develops brands and experiences that are ethical and impactful.

Turning Words Into Objects, Part I — Experimental Jetset

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