(Touchy Mob)






LONG PAST:
09 OCT 2021 - BERLIN - No Kiddin' 2020 @ FITZROY
14 DEC 2019 - BERLIN - INTERNET EXPLORER w/ Helmut, Albertine Sarges & The Sticky Fingers, Go Lamborghini Go
06 DEC 2019 - BERLIN - (DJ) 11 Years S/L @ LOOPHOLE w/ Jae Tyler, Lia Lia, Giraffi Dog, L. Zylberberg
10 DEC 2016 - BERLIN - ACUD w/ Throws, Mr. Vast
22 OCT 2016 - ERFURT - FRANZ MEHLHOSE w/ Arpen
06 AUG 2016 - LIBKEN Sommerfest 
13 JUL 2016 - LEIPZIG - (DJ) WESTWERK/PFERDEHAUS w/ Micronaut
12 JUL 2016 - LEIPZIG - Calculating Space @ GALERIE KUB w/ Jack Chosef
01 JUL 2016 - LÄRZ - FUSION :)
18 JUN 2016 - LEIPZIG - TIPI
17 JUN 2016 - LEIPZIG - PARKBÜHNE GEYSERHAUS w/ The/Das
10 JUN 2016 - GEGENKINO @ REICH&SCHÖN-FESTIVAL 
04 JUN 2016 - BERLIN - ROTER SALON @ TORSTRAßEN FESTIVAL
08 NOV 2015 - LEIPZIG - WESTWERK/PFERDEHAUS w/ Molly Nilsson, Sean Nicholas Savage(DJ)
07 NOV 2015- WARSZAWA - Distorted Festival@CAFE KULTURALNA w/ Sean Nicholas Savage!
06 NOV 2015 - BERLIN - URBAN SPREE w/ Sean Nicholas Savage 
16 OKT 2015 - HILDESHEIM - STATE OF THE ART7 @ DOMÄNE MARIENBURG
12 SEP 2015 - LEIPZIG - Arno-Nitzsche-Str 17
22 AUG 2015 - BERGEN/RÜGEN -  LA GRANGE (DJ)
08 AUG 2015 - DOLSENHAIN - KEINE FISCHE ABER GRETHEN FESTIVAL
10 JUL 2015 - WIEN - POOLSIDE @ PRATERSAUNA w/ Better Person et al.
28 JUN 2015 - LÄRZ - FUSION
17 JUN 2015 - LEIPZIG - (DJ) WESTWERK/PFERDEHAUS w/ Micronaut
02 JUN 2015 - BERLIN - (Remote DJ)LOOPHOLE w/ Helen Fry, Doomsquad
09 MAY 2015 - HALLE - HÜHNERMANHATTAN w/Jack Josef et al.
02 MAY 2015 - LEIPZIG - LACKFABRIK 
18 APR 2015 - BIESENTHAL
17 APR 2015 - LEIPZIG - VIDEO KILLS @ UT CONNEWITZ w/ Magic Island et al.
28 FEB 2015 - ROSTOCK - JAZ w/ Micronaut, Clicks&Errors
30 JAN 2015 - LEVI, FINLAND - LAPPDANCE @ CRAZY REINDEER HOTEL w/ Jaako Eino Kaalevi, Molly Nilson et al.
24 JAN 2015 - HAMBURG - KRANICHE BEI DEN ELBBRÜCKEN 
13 DEC 2014 - BERLIN - KELLER as part of Bif Mobaque
20 NOV 2014 - LEIPZIG - CON HAN HOP w/ Slow Steve, Jack Chosef
14 NOV 2014 - LEIPZIG - (DJ) INTIMBEREICH / BLAUER SALON
08 NOV 2014 - HALLE - LA BIM
01 NOV 2014 - BERGEN/RÜGEN - LOGBUCH DES TRAUMKAPITÄNS @ LA GRANGE
18 OCT 2014 - WIEN - PRATERSAUNA
17 OCT 2014 - BERLIN - ROTER SALON w/ Jason & Theodor, Slow Steve
05 SEP 2014 - HAMBURG - NACHT DER CLUBS @ NOCHTSPEICHER w/ John Talabot, Pool, Mehawk
22 AUG 2014 - HANNOVER - FUCHSBAU FESTIVAL
07 AUG 2014 - SÜDTIROL - SINSTRUCT FESTIVAL as part of Bif Mobaque
11 JUL 2014 - BERLIN - CHESTER’S w/ Dan Bodan, Teams
20 MAY 2014 - HAMBURG - REMINESZENZ DES GRAUEN @ GOLDEN PUDEL
15 MAY 2014 - BERLIN - as part of CIRCUIT DIAGRAM @ BERGHAIN KANTINE
22 MAR 2014 - BERLIN - SISYPHOS
22 FEB 2014 - ZIELONA GORA - (DJ) PIERWSZE PENTRO
21 FEB 2014 - WROCLAW - (DJ) PUZZLE
08 FEB 2014 - BERLIN - REVUE LAUNCH @ LEHRTER 17
18 JAN 2014 - BERLIN - 3000° WANDERZIRKUS @ RITTER BUTZKE
13 DEC 2013 - BERLIN - 5 YEARS OF S/L @ URBAN SPREE
30 NOV 2013 - HAMBURG - (DJ) KRANICHE BEI DEN ELBBRÜCKEN w/ Robert Etzold
30 NOV 2013 - HAMBURG - BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS @ ASTRA STUBE w/ Epiphany Now
08 NOV 2013 - WARSZAWA - (DJ) CAFE KULTURALNA w/ Sean Nicholas Savage, Adam Repucha
31 OCT 2013 - BERLIN - (DJ) TOYS @ PRINCE CHARLES w/ Christian Löffler, CutOff!CutOff!, Asa808
25 OCT 2013 - BERLIN - (DJ) SAMEHEADS
25 OCT 2013 - BERLIN - (DJ) ZK/U w/ Helmut, Allie
05 OCT 2013 - BERLIN - (DJ) BERGHAIN KANTINE w/ Sean Nicholas Savage, Small Black, Blue Hawaii
27 SEP 2013 - ERFURT - HANT RELEASE @ PREDIGERKELLER w/ SVMMY JONES
21 SEP 2013 - BERLIN - (DJ) REVUE RELEASE @ OCELOT
14 SEP 2013 - NEUSTRELITZ - KUNSTHAUS
31 AUG 2013 - EGGERSRIET - SUR LE LAC FESTIVAL 
10 AUG 2013 - BERGEN AUF RÜGEN - LA GRANGE
09 AUG 2013 - OSLO - (DJ) ØYA @ KULTURHUSET w/ Camera, The Low Frequency In Stereo
08 AUG 2013 - OSLO - ØYA @ KULTURHUSET w/ Sofia Härdig
28 JUN 2013 - LÄRZ - FUSION
16 JUN 2013 - BERLIN - (DJ) FABELWESEN OPEN AIR
18 MAY 2013 - MAINZ - OPEN OHR FESTIVAL
26 APR 2013 - HAMBURG - (DJ) WESTWERK
05 APR 2013 - WIEN - GARAGE X
08 MAR 2013 - ISTANBUL - BABYLON LOUNGE
12 FEB 2013 - DRESDEN - SOCIETÄTSTHEATER
09 FEB 2013 - ERFURT - Franz Mehlhose °
08 FEB 2013 - LEIPZIG - Horns Erben °
07 FEB 2013 - BERLIN - Berghain Kantine °
06 FEB 2013 - MÜNSTER - Gleis 22 °
05 FEB 2013 - HEIDELBERG - Häll °
03 FEB 2013 - DARMSTADT - Bedroomdisco Wohnzimmer °
02 FEB 2013 - NYON - La Parenthese °
01 FEB 2013 - ST. GALLEN - OYA °
31 JAN 2013 - ZÜRICH - La Catrina °
30 JAN 2013 - WÜRZBURG - Cafe Cairo °
29 JAN 2013 - FRANKFURT/M - Cafe Koz °
26 JAN 2013 - NÜRNBERG - Club Stereo °
25 JAN 2013 - JENA - Eulenfreunde Festival @ Kassablanca °
24 JAN 2013 - TILBURG - Hall Of Fame °
23 JAN 2013 - METZ - 7(7) Cafe °
21 JAN 2013 - KÖLN - Baustelle Kalk °
19 JAN 2013 - TRIER - Gedanken Skulptur Festival °
17 JAN 2013 - PARIS - Pop-In °
12 JAN 2013 - MÜNCHEN - innen:welt Festival
11 JAN 2013 - KØBENHAVN - Huset KBH °
10 JAN 2013 - GÖTEBORG - Koloni °
09 JAN 2013 - HAMBURG - Westwerk °
08 JAN 2013 - POTSDAM - Waschhaus °
         ° = with TELLAVISION
08 DEC 2012 - ZWICKAU - L*ABORE @ ALTES GASOMETER w/ Sebastian Arnold, webermichelson
03 NOV 2012- BERLIN - FREUDENREICH w/ TOPS, Dan Bodan
17 NOV 2012 - BERLIN - FESTSAAL KREUZBERG w/ Pupkulies & Rebecca
16 NOV 2012 - AMSTERDAM - KLUB 470
20 OCT 2012 - LODZ - DOM
05 OCT 2012 - LOS ANGELES - CULTURE COLLIDE
02 SEP 2012 - KØBNHAVEN - TRAILERPARK FESTIVAL
01 SEP 2012 - BERLIN - TORSTRASSENFESTIVAL
25 AUG 2012 - ROSTOCK - ASV GEHLSDORF - KUNST IM HÖRSAAL
19 AUG 2012 - DRESDEN - RÄUBERTAGE
18 AUG 2012 - GOTHA - CUCUMA FESTIVAL
12 AUG 2012 - HAMBURG - DOCKVILLE
10 AUG 2012 - SECRET PLACE - 3000° FESTIVAL
28 JUL 2012 - DIEPHOLZ - APPLETREE GARDEN
20 JUL 2012 - SECRET PLACE - H∆N$ + GL0R14
09 JUL 2012 - BERLIN - KATER HOLZIG (DJ)
06 JUL 2012 - ROSKILDE
29 JUN 2012 - Ф w/ Helen Fry
23 JUN 2012 - REICH UND SCHÖN
02 JUN 2012 - JENA - THEATERHAUS
25 MAY 2012 - LEIPZIG - DISTILLERY w/ Valery Gore, Basskante
19 MAY 2012 - BERLIN - WEST GERMANY w/ Extra Life
18 MAY 2012 - BERLIN - BACHSTELZEN @ SISYPHOS
12 MAY 2012 - BERLIN - RITTER BUTZKE (nachts! ohne gitarre! rumms!)
28 APR 2012 - BERLIN - KATER HOLZIG w/ Golden Diskó Ship (tickets)
30 DEC 2011 - DRESDEN - SCHEUNE w/ Austra
20 DEC 2011 - POTSDAM - RUBY’S TUESDAY @ WASCHHAUS
17 DEC 2011 - GENT - GLIMPS FESTIVAL
13 DEC 2011 - LONDON - BORDERLINE w/ Hundreds + TIm Neuhaus
05 DEC 2011 - BERLIN - .HBC w/ Miracle Fortress
04 DEC 2011 - HAMBURG - ASTRA STUBE w/ Tellavision + Kirrin Island
03 DEC 2011 - HILDESHEIM - HAUS DER BRAUT w/ Tellavision + ellenschneider
02 DEC 2011 - NEUBRANDENBURG - MIXTAPE w/ Tellavision
01 DEC 2011 - ROSTOCK - JAZ w/ Tellavision + Vialka
26 NOV 2011 - KÖLN - STEREO WONDERLAND w/ Tellavision
25 NOV 2011 - FRANKFURT/M - IVI w/ Tellavision + Räuberhöhle
24 NOV 2011 - WÜRZBURG - BOMBE, DJ-Set
23 NOV 2011 - NÜRNBERG - CLUB STEREO w/ Tellavision
22 NOV 2011 - BAYREUTH - GLASHAUS
12 NOV 2011 - STUTTGART - POP.NOT.POP FESTIVAL
22 OCT 2011 - PARIS - MAMA FESTIVAL @ ROCK’N’ROLL CIRCUS
18 OCT 2011 - MANHATTAN, NY - CMJ, KENNY’S CASTAWAYS
17 OCT 2011 - REYKJAVIK - DILLON
16 OCT 2011 - REYKJAVIK - i8
15 OCT 2011 - REYKJAVIK - AMSTERDAM
14 OCT 2011 - REYKJAVIK - DOWNTOWN HOSTEL
01 OCT 2011 - WIEN - WAVES VIENNA @ DOGENHOF
23 SEP 2011 - MONTREAL - POP MONTREAL @ UKRANIAN FEDERATION w/ tUnE-yArDs
22 SEP 2011 - HAMBURG - REEPERBAHNFESTIVAL
17 SEP 2011 - TILBURG - INCUBATE @ WEEMOED
16 SEP 2011 - ANTWERPEN - BLOEMEKESFEST @ KAVKA
09 SEP 2011 - BERLIN - AN DER SPHINX IM DUSSMANN — 19:00
08 SEP 2011 - BERLIN - HOF KULTURBRAUEREI — 20:15
08 SEP 2011 - BERLIN - MICHELBERGER HOTEL — 18:40
09 SEP 2011 - BERLIN - AN DER SPHINX IM DUSSMANN — 19:00
02 SEP 2011 - DRESDEN - SOUND OF BRONKOW - TOUCHY MOB & HELEN FRY !!!
18 AUG 2011 - WARSZAWA - PLAC ZABAW w/ Kyst + Xenony
13 AUG 2011 - BERLIN - FLINK FESTIVAL @ LOVELITE
05 AUG 2011 - FRIEDLAND - JENSEITS VON MILLIONEN
04 AUG 2011 - HAMBURG - DOCKVILLE KUNSTCAMP w/ Me Succeeds + Get Well Soon
23 JUL 2011 - ZWICKAU - L*ABORE FESTIVAL
22 JUL 2011 - RÜSSELSHEIM - PHONO POP
20 JUL 2011 - WIEN - ART ARCADIA @ B72
07 JUL 2011 - BREMEN - BREMINALE
01 JUL 2011 -  LÄRZ - Ф у з и о н
29 JUN 2011 - HANNOVER - THEATERFORMEN
25 JUN 2011 - KÖLN - C/O POP @ CHIC BELGIQUE
24 JUN 2011 - KÖLN - C/O POP @ LUDWIG MUSEUM DACH w/ Wu Lyf
22 JUN 2011 - POTSDAM - LOCALIZE HEIMATFESTIVAL
06 JUN 2011 - WROCLAW - DAS LOKAL
05 JUN 2011 - LODZ - OWOCE I WARZYWA
02 JUN 2011 - WARSZAWA - CAFE KULTURALNA
01 JUN 2011 - BYDGOSZCZ - MÓZG
31 MAY 2011 - GDYNIA - UCHO
28 MAY 2011 - NEUSTRELITZ - IMMERGUT
22 MAY 2011 - ZÜRICH - EXIL w/ Hundreds
21 MAY 2011 - MANNHEIM - MAIFELD DERBY
20 MAY 2011 - LEIPZIG - POP UP X @ WERK 2
14 MAY 2011 - HAMBURG - BUTTERLAND @ MS STUBNITZ
13 MAY 2011 - HANNOVER - CAFÈ GLOCKSEE w/ Hundreds
11 MAY 2011 - BERLIN - FESTSAAL KREUZBERG - DJ-ing for Akron/Family + Kurt Vile
07 MAY 2011 - BERLIN - ZINNOBER MASKENBALL @ UDK [dj-set]
06 MAY 2011 - DRESDEN - SHOWBOXX w/ Bodi Bill
05 MAY 2011 - LEIPZIG - CONNE ISLAND w/ Bodi Bill
04 MAY 2011 - ERFURT - STADTGARTEN w/ Bodi Bill
01 MAY 2011 - FRANFURT/M - MOUSONTURM w/ Bodi Bill
30 APR 2011 - FRANFURT/M - MOUSONTURM w/ Bodi Bill
29 APR 2011 - ERLANGEN - E-WERK w/ Bodi Bill
28 APR 2011 - BERLIN - LIDO w/ Bodi Bill
27 APR 2011 - CHEMNITZ - BETA BAR
23 APR 2011 - GDANSK - PAPRYKA w/ Owen Pallett
22 APR 2011 - BERLIN - FRICTION FEST @ BERGHAIN
24 MAR 2011 - BERLIN - .HBC w/ A Forest
15 MAR 2011 - AUSTIN, TX - SXSW
11 MAR 2011 - REBOOT.FM - GLORIOUS MONO
05 MAR 2011 - LÄRZ - SOS U-GROUND @ KULTURKOSMOS w/ Super Flu
04 MAR 2011 - ROSTOCK - WATERKANT SOUVENIRS @ JAZ
02 MAR 2011 - BERLIN - LEVEE w/ Cloud Nothings
25 FEB 2011 - GDANSK - BUFFET w/ Stendek
24 FEB 2011 - BERLIN - 100° FESTIVAL @ WAU, DJ-Set
17 FEB 2011 - KÖLN - ARTY FARTY GALLERY - ♧
16 FEB 2011 - NÜRNBERG - CLUB STEREO - ♧
15 FEB 2011 - POTSDAM - WASCHHAUS - ♧
14 FEB 2011 - BERLIN - MICHELBERGER HOTEL - ♧ 
11 FEB 2011 - MAGDEBURG - CAFE CENTRAL - ♧
10 FEB 2011 - DRESDEN - THALIA KINO - ♧
09 FEB 2011 - LEIPZIG - KAFIČ / GFZK - ♧
                        ♧ = w/ Jeannel + A Golden Pony Boy
06 FEB 2011 - HAMBURG - MOLOTOW w/ Twin Shadow
13 JAN 2011 - GRONINGEN - EUROSONIC @ KRUITHUIS
01 JAN 2011 - BERLIN - VOLKSBÜHNE w/ Austra
05 DEC 2010 - WARSZAWA - KLUBOJADALNA EUFEMIA 
22 NOV 2010 - BERLIN - THE WURST SOUNDTRACK @ LOVELITE w/ Baths
20 NOV 2010 - GDANSK - NARRACJE w/ Mohna, Asia I Koty, Coldair
13 NOV 2010 - BERLIN - FESTSAAL KREUZBERG w/ I Might Be Wrong + Mohna
12 NOV 2010 - MÜNCHEN - ATOMIC CAFE w/ FM Belfast
11 NOV 2010 - POTSDAM - LINDENPARK w/ FM Belfast
02 NOV 2010 - NEUBRANDENBURG - MIXTAPE CLUB w/ Hundreds
30 OCT 2010 - OSNABRÜCK - GLANZ & GLORIA w/ Hundreds
29 OCT 2010 - LÜNEBURG - SALON HANSEN w/ Hundreds
28 OCT 2010 - TÜBINGEN - CLUB VOLTAIRE w/ Hundreds
27 OCT 2010 - KARLSRUHE - TOLLHAUS w/ Hundreds
26 OCT 2010 - KÖLN - STUDIO 672 w/ Hundreds
25 OCT 2010 - PRAHA - 007 STRAHOV w/ Casiotone For The Painfully Alone
24 OCT 2010 - HEILBRONN - BASEMENTIZID w/ Mohna
23 OCT 2010 - FRANKFURT AM MAIN - IVI w/ Mohna
22 OCT 2010 - ERFURT - FRANZ MEHLHOSE w/ Mohna
21 OCT 2010 - BERLIN - BANG BANG CLUB w/ Mohna
20 OCT 2010 - LEIPZIG - DETEKTOR.FM STUDIO w/ Mohna
19 OCT 2010 - DRESDEN - OSTPOL w/ Mohna
17 OCT 2010 - HAMBURG - ASTRA STUBE w/ Mohna
03 OCT 2010 - BERLIN - HEIMATHAFEN NEUKÖLLN (STUDIO) w/ Well Done, Jackson Pollock
03 SEP 2010 - BERLIN - MADAME CLAUDE w/ Pop Campaign
25 AUG 2010 - ROSTOCK - FREIGARTEN / PETER WEISS HAUS
21 AUG 2010 - BERLIN - FLINK FESTIVAL @ LOVELITE
08 JUL 2010 - BERLIN - M:SOUNDTRACK @ SCHOKOLADEN w/ Laura Stevenson
02 JUL 2010 - ERFURT - ENGELSBURG
18 JUN 2010 - SOPOT - GINGERBREAD FESTIVAL @ PAPRYKA
11 JUN 2010 - HILDESHEIM - SPATENSTICH FESTIVAL w/ Me Succeeds, Talking To Turtles + Leiseylento
23 MAY 2010 - WIEN - B72 w/ Hundreds
21 MAY 2010 - HEIDELBERG -  KARLSTORBAHNHOF w/ Hundreds
20 MAY 2010 - AUGSBURG - SCHWARZES SCHAF w/Hundreds
18 MAY 2010 - STUTTGART -  SCHOCKEN w/ Hundreds,
12 MAY 2010 - HANNOVER - NICE NICE EXHIBITION SPACEw/ Helen Fry
10 MAY 2010 - DRESDEN - THE SOUND OF BRONKOW @OSTPOL w/ Helen Fry
08 MAY 2010 - ERFURT - FRANZ MEHLHOSE w/ Hundreds
07 MAY 2010 - KASSEL - ALTER SCHLACHTHOF w/Hundreds
23 APR 2010 - POZNAN - KISIELICE w/ Helen Fry
16 APR 2010 - BERLIN - MARIA AM OSTBAHNHOF w/ Bodi Bill + Freedarich
15 APR 2010 - LÜNEBURG - GEBÄUDE 9 w/ Hundreds
26 MAR 2010 - BERLIN - RIEMENGAST III @ ANTJE ØKLESUND w/ Kyst
20 MAR 2010 - WARSZAWA - PLAN B. w/ Helen Fry (she’s a master of disguise)
18 MAR 2010 - BERLIN - RIEMENGAST II @ ANTJE ØKLESUND w/ Kay Steinke + How How
09 MAR 2010 - BERLIN - RIEMENGAST I @ ANTJE ØKLESUND w/ Mathias Baresel
19 FEB 2010 - BRAUNSCHWEIG - HBK w/ Kyst
16 FEB 2010 - PRAHA - THE BRICK BAR w/ Kyst
13 FEB 2010 - WROCLAW - FALANSTER w/ Kyst
12 FEB 2010 - KRAKOW - KAWIARNIA NAUKOWA w/ Kyst
11 FEB 2010 - LODZ - LODZ KALISKA w/ Kyst
10 FEB 2010 - WARSZAWA - POWIEKSZENIE w/ Kyst
09 FEB 2010 - BERLIN - MADAME CLAUDE w/ Helen Fry
05 FEB 2010 - BERLIN - INTERSOUP w/ Helen Fry
17 JAN 2010 - HILDESHEIM - 7 TAGE 7 AKTE FINISSAGE @ SALON (DJ-SET)
13 JAN 2010 - HILDESHEIM - 7 TAGE 7 AKTE @ DOMÄNE MARIENBURG
06 JAN 2010 - BERLIN - LO-FI LOUNGE @ SCHOKOLADEN w/ Ofrin + Niki Neun
05 JAN 2010 - BERLIN - ANTJE ØKLESUND
10 DEC 2009 - BERLIN - WOHNZIMMERCLUB w/ Finn-Ole Heinrich
08 DEC 2009 - BERLIN - KAFFEE BURGER w/ Finn-Ole Heinrich
16 NOV 2009 - ROSTOCK - MOMO
12 NOV 2009 - HANNOVER - FEINKOST LAMPE w/ Finn-Ole Heinrich
28 OCT 2009 - HAMBURG - ASTRA STUBE w/ Finn-Ole Heinrich
18 SEP 2009 - WARSZAWA - POWIEKSZENIE w/ How How

Brooklyn based independent record label, established 2007 A.D. 

Die Deichtorhallen Hamburg sind mit ihren drei Standorten eines der größten Ausstellungshäuser für zeitgenössische Kunst und Fotografie in Europa.

Ufo361 wurde 1988 in Berlin geboren und ist in Berlin Kreuzberg aufgewachsen. Zunächst machte er sich auf den Straßen als Graffiti- Künstler in einer bekannten Kreuzberger Crew einen Namen. 
Eigene Tracks wie, "Hard in the Paint" oder "Was du Reydest?!" oder seine Beiträge auf der "Bellini Boyz EP" ließen seine Fanbase wachsen und sein Mixtape "Bald ist dein Geld meins" wurde zum Underground- Geheimtip. Die Rufe nach einem ersten Soloalbum wurden lauter. Rufe die Ufo nicht ignorierte. Nun präsentiert er euch sein erstes Solowerk "Ihr Seid Nicht Allein" - kurz I.S.N.A.

►► Ihr Seid Nicht Allein - JETZT ERHÄLTLICH
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