The young draughtsman and painter from Finland has proven his talent with narrative portraits from live model. Aiming for the Classical Greek ideal, Hjalmar Hagelstam is already well-equipped, having studied painting with Odd Nerdrum and sculpture at the Florence Academy
Growing up in a country known for Sibelius and Gallen-Kallela, Hagelstam asks the following question: "Which lessons can we learn from the strange fate of 19th century Finnish painters?"
As he sees it, they were rightfully concerned with Kalevala, the native, mythical epic. However their political desire to find something "national" in it, invariably led to failure.
Making matters worse, influence from contemporary ideas of "progress" and styles like symbolism and impressionism only further removed their work from a truly timeless context.
So what makes a universal story?
And could you grip the essence of a myth by simply illustrating it?

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Chapter markers:
00:30 Introduction
01:22 Does Finnish painting exist?  
02:20 How Hagelstam got interested in painting 
05:06 The free art school and Odd Nerdrum  
07:39 What Hagelstam saw at the auction house 
09:14 FAA, storytelling and being close to nature 
13:27 Intuitive vs "rational" painting method 
17:43 Props: contemporary or timeless?  
21:34 Naturalism and symbolism — pitfalls and strengths 
28:21 Rembrandt & Greeks: Shame, forgiveness, elevation 
34:16 Empathy & drama vs "everyday" motifs  
41:47 Experience life to become a good painter?  
45:26 Munch's Sick Child and Rembrandt's Prodigal Son 
52:36 Calmness vs action and combining opposites  
58:19 "The Poor Fisherman" and The Squint Test 
1:02:39 Do not just illustrate the title 
1:06:55 One can only set a great example 
1:09:54 Recommending Florence Academy of Art?  
1:11:36 How to become more mythical in your motifs?  

This episode featured Hjalmar Hagelstam & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
The centerpiece was "Breath" by Hjalmar Hagelstam (portrait of the poet Thomas Løland).

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Hjalmar Hagelstam on Odd Nerdrum, Rembrandt, Florence Academy and the Failure of Finnish Painting

The 22 year old playwright Henrik Knightingale has just released his debut play In His Own Shadow.
The play is set 150 years into the future, where a miracle happens: a new theater play is produced - and it is actually good! Can stories about love restore our faith in existence?
Knightingale sits down to talk about the craft of writing a story, how he overcomes the challenges of writing, and how he "kills his darlings".
Putting his own play in context, he will also discuss the authors who spur him in his own writing, taking a look at the structure of Antigone and Cyrano de Bergerac. 

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00:00: Intro
01:14 Learning how to essentialize
04:03 Sense of Life 
06:16 Knightingale's play In His Own Shadow
11:45 The Shakespeare/Bacon theory
14:00 Questions unfold the plot
16:12 Starting to write
19:22 Causality, logic and internal consistency 
27:59 The importance of a synopsis 
31:40 Everything must serve a function
33:22 Climax and the inevitable 
39:00 Developing the villain and killing your darlings
47:23 Subplots and double meaning
53:40 Learning how to write from Leonard Peikoff
56:07 “Plot theme” keeps you on track
59:48 Opposition, stakes and key concepts
1:05:08 “A nest of characters at each others' throat”
1:08:02 Trusting the audience
1:16:05 What is most vulnerable
1:19:28 The importance of being important

This episode featured Henrik Knightingale & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
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Henrik Knightingale on his Debut Play and How to Write a Compelling Story

Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Sturla Ellingvåg to dive deep into Norse mythology.
Ellingvåg is the historian behind  @VikingStories .
He is associated with the Max Planck Institute in Germany, and is convinced that history has to be studied in a broader context than current fashion allows.

Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q81uTkxnsY

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00:00 Norse creation myths
04:33 Attacking sacred trees: Yggdrasil & Irminsul
14:23 Ragnarok - the world ending is not the end of the world
18:26 "Asia Men" & the Germanic world view
23:09 Odin's wisdom & travels to the underworld
29:18 Wells, bridges, the number nine & Saros' cycles 
37:40 Did "Hyperboreans" teach the Greeks?
46:11 Scandinavia, Greece and tripping reindeer
49:50 Fighting and dancing to acquire wisdom
53:25 Inuit & Sami stories: helping spirits and singing
58:05 Dancing, fasting and being more dead than alive
1:05:37 Odin's words to his dead son

This episode featured Sturla Ellingvåg & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
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Mushrooms & Shamanic Wisdom, Sacred Trees and the Number Nine | Norse Mythology Pt. 2

Seth Fite is a classical painter born in England, who grew up in the United States. From the new world, he is inspired by American Golden Age illustrators, Andrew and N. C. Wyeth, and the Cincinnati master Frank Duveneck. From the old world, he has studied masters such as Rembrandt and Velasquez. In 2019 he was a student of Odd Nerdrum. 
Fite has been told to "find his own voice" and "do something new", as well as other clichés, but he sees little use of this. He strives to strike the vulnerable spot of humankind, the same spot found by masters before him.

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01:49 Illustration and old masters
06:28 The spirit of Andrew Wyeth
11:22 Getting to know the model 
15:36 "Make the eyes more sad"
22:14 Painting from memory
27:09 Andrew Wyeth's status today
30:07 The Bible, and finding the divine in things
35:43 Painting biblical motifs
40:32 Comparing Kierkegaard and Nerdrum
45:48 Reflecting the times is superficial
50:47 Nerdrum destroyed the "Art" word for me
53:17 "Sincere", "true" and "genuine"?
57:30 Joy in recognition
1:06:48 Beauty brings melancholy
1:12:32 Andrew Wyeth's popularity in the East
1:16:12 Something "below" or "behind" the motif?
1:20:07 Stuck in ancient problems

This episode featured Seth Fite & Carl Korsnes and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
The wall featured two paintings by Seth Fite.

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Seth Fite on Sincerity in Painting, Andrew Wyeth, and Human Suffering as the Superior Subject Matter

Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Sturla Ellingvåg to dive deep into Norse mythology.
Ellingvåg is the historian behind the YouTube-channel Viking Stories .
He is associated with the Max Planck Institute in Germany, and is convinced that history has to be studied in a broader context than current fashion allows.

Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q81uTkxnsY
Part two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTXjioACKt8

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Chapter markers:
00:00 Bridges, wells and guardians
02:04 Shamanic journey and disentanglement
08:40 Wisdom literature 
11:10 Struggles and Loki as hero
17:25 Gods exposed to laws of nature 
20:34 Odin: ferryman or Attila the Hun?
26:58 Odin & The spear dancer
30:00 Was Odin crucified or hanged? 
32:40 What the next Ragnarök will look like
42:37 The 4.2k event
43:56 Religion and more totalitarian societies
45:54 Will your work survive future regimes? Bulgakov and Solzhenitsyn
51:39 The optimism of the Poetic Edda

This episode featured Sturla Ellingvåg & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.

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Natures of Odin, Preparing for Ragnarök and the Optimism of Poetic Edda | Norse Mythology Part Three

Michael Pearce is a writer, painter, teacher and curator, as well as the founder of The Representational Art Conference (TRAC). His book "Kitsch, Propaganda and the American Avant-Garde" uncovers one thing Lenin, Hitler and Roosevelt had in common: 
A keen eye for art as state propaganda.
Avoiding  the old-fashioned vs modern dichotomy, Pearce shows the cultural historical roots of employing both figurative and abstract painting to further political correctness.
Pearce traces it back to 19th century socialist thinking, and goes in-depth on the ideas of philosophers like Proudhon and Saint-Simon, as well as the protests of Emile Zola.
First and foremost, however, he shows how the the American government and a few wealthy families made Avant-garde art into the preferred art form of the 20th century, casting it as the antidote to the sentimentality of kitsch.

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Chapter markers:
00:00 Intro
01:32 Understanding Kitsch and the Avant-Garde 
05:01 Who is Michael Pearce? 
08:06 The proto-Communist Avant-Garde 
12:47 Proudhon's authoritarian state art
16:22 Proudhon on Courbet and aesthetic ideals
22:02 Courbet, Repin, and Russian realism 
23:25 The Bohemian Avant-Garde
26:00 Emile Zola's individualism vs Proudhon 
29:59 Capturing the Zeitgeist
33:50 The battle between Avant-Gardes in Soviet Russia
41:49 An individualist Avant-Garde? 
42:43 Socialist Realism in the USSR and the USSA
45:36 Nazi art vs Roosevelt's path
47:46 Socialism and the art of the enemy
50:20 Hitler's qualities as a painter
52:19 Degenerate Art and House of German Art
57:25 The sentimental art of the enemy 
59:45 The propagandist Nelson Rockefeller
1:02:24 The figurative/kitsch/Hitler connection 
1:06:37 Greenberg's essay Avant-Garde and Kitsch
1:11:37 Nazi art: kitsch or bona fide modernism? 
1:20:11 Primitive American art as the mother of modernism 
1:26:33 Roosevelt & the marriage of USSA and MoMA 
1:30:04 The current situation in the art world
1:35:56 The American illustration tradition and escapism 
1:38:37 Fergus Ryan: What is "Imaginative realism"? 
1:40:37 Fergus Ryan:: What is "emergence" in painting? 
1:43:59 Question: Is there a refuge for the human spirit?

This episode featured Michael Pearce & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
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Kitsch, Propaganda and the American Avant-Garde | An Interview with Michael Pearce

What happened in the cultural life in 19th century France that lead to the rise of avant-garde art in America? Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Michael Pearce to review his book Kitsch, Propaganda and the American Avant-Garde.

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00:00 "Bohemian" and irresponsible?
03:16 The origin of "Bohemian"
06:47 Courbet - an old-master "modernist"
09:10 Courbet's loyalty to the time
15:48 Science and industrialization killed poetry
18:40 Proudhon, and the marriage of art and socialism
23:12 Courbet's attack on classical values
29:33 Victor Hugo: the sublime, sensual and sentimental
36:15 A Bohemian, ludicrous way of dying
39:36 Theophile Gautier's l'Art pour l'Art, psychedelics, spiritism and theosophy
42:47 Zola: modernist or classical?
48:26 Manet, the father of avant-garde modern art
54:10 Zola's "hour of demolition"
1:00:40 The Hippie movement
1:03:51 How to be a REAL Bohemian
1:07:50 Zola's isolated artists
1:13:58 Myths: the core classical value
1:16:19 The coquette Romantic?

This episode featured Michael Pearce & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.

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19th Century French Bohemia and the Proto-Avant-Garde | A Review of Michael J. Pearce's Book

Jon White has studied Indo-European mythology for more than thirty years, particularly focusing on cosmogony and creation myths. As an independent  researcher and lecturer, he shares this knowledge on his YouTube-channel  @Crecganford .
Mr. White visits Cave of Apelles to detail the major motifs or "mythologems" of the Indo-European mythological tradition and what they denote. Considering that the Indo-Europeans lived in the Pontic-Caspian steppes about 7000 years ago, how did their stories spread to ancient India, Persia, Rome or Norse Scandinavia - changing, yet still retaining their core?
Combining the study of myths with fields like linguistics, archeology and etymology Mr. White will unravel cross-cultural similarities in stories like The Cosmic Twins, Defeating the dragon, The cattle raiding myth and The wild hunt.
He will also share his ideas on how we best are to understand myths. Are they projections of the human psyche, the condensed ethos of a culture or symbolic manifestations of natural and cultural history?
More intriguing still: is the presence of myths and archetypal images particular to Homo sapiens or have they been transferred between human  species?

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Chapter markers:
00:00 Intro
01:27 Who is Jon White?
04:21 Defining “myth" 
11:57 The Indo-European creation myth and sacrifice of the cow
19:22 Who were the Indo-Europeans? 
24:06 The academic study of myths
30:18 Cattle, three-headed monsters and Twins of creation
37:36 “Fame does not decay” - the magic of writing
41:00 Over 70 000 years of fighting the dragon
45:59 From cows to women - the problem of translation
50:27 The veracity of the poetic and prose Edda
56:27 The divine twins vs the creation twins
1:00:11 Defining “archetype”
1:04:31 What is NOT Indo-European?
1:06:25 Mythology and mindset
1:08:29 Inuit myths, and stars as protagonists
1:13:41 Ways of understanding myth
1:16:51 Polytheist vs monotheist worldviews?
1:21:25 Myths as projection of the human psyche?
1:31:39 Myths as condensed images
1:34:17 Pre-human myths?

This episode featured Jon F. White & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
The centerpiece was a reproduction of "Sleeping Twins" by Odd Nerdrum.

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Creation, Cows and Sacrifice | Jon White on the Motifs and Interpretation of Indo-European Mythology

Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Jon White from the Crecganford YouTube-channel and Sturla Ellingvåg from the Viking Stories YouTube-channel to discuss the nature of myths.

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Chapter markers:
00:00 Thinking a-historically
03:33 From ritual to listening
08:48 Replacing pagan holidays and rituals
15:39 Changes in myths
22:26 Tactius' Germania, the Poetic Edda and the Kalevala
26:19 Sacred truths make stories last
33:14 Cut off from your traditions
39:28 Looking at history as a whole
44:17 A perfect product for corporate business?
48:36 Picking the shiny thing
52:32 Back to basic human stories
57:36 Participating in the story
1:02:58 Do what has worked before
1:05:46 Irony in eternal stories
1:07:18 Society after the cyclical disasters
1:13:18 Agriculture gives us cyclical myths
1:19:40 Recurring themes in myth

This episode featured Jon F. White, Jan-Ove Tuv & Sturla Ellingvåg and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
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Cyclical thinking, Discontinuity and Basic Human Stories | Jon White, Sturla Ellingvåg & Jan-Ove Tuv

Dr. Nir Buras is a leading new traditional architect and urbanist, founder of the Classic Planning Institute, and author of The Art of Classic Planning. He designs towns, cities and buildings, and speaks about some of the most  interesting developments in the world of architecture and planning and where we might find ourselves in the future.

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00:00 Intro 
01:30 Buras & the Classic Planning Institute (CPI)
04:43 Projects and subdivisions of CPI
09:02 CPI's partners, seminars and live events
11:00 Horseshit, conflict and modern city planning
15:07 Cars and modern city planning
19:01 Three scenarios for our cities
22:33 The "Golden Age" in all cultures
26:01 What is wrong with the modern city
37:46 A holistic vs problem solving method
48:20 Place making is memory-making
57:22 Can a city have cars in it?
1:06:43 Traffic in Rome, Rio de Janeiro and New York
1:10:23 Town and country
1:14:41 CPI and the Anacostia River Masterplan
1:24:45 The impact of using hands on the brain
1:29:35 An eight generations horizon
1:32:10 Olympic Games for handcraft
1:35:24 The Anacostia project and Paris' Île de la Cité
1:42:03 Daniel Burnham: “Make no small plans”
1:46:28 Burnham's six categories for town planning
1:51:55 The symbolism of where you place buildings
1:58:50 Getting cars off the streets
1: 01:42 The future of modernism is classical

This episode featured Dr. Nir Buras & Carl Korsnes and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
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Dr. Nir Buras on The Classic Planning Institute, Modern Urban Planning and The Future of Our Cities

Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner's book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture.

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Chapter markers:
00:00 Biggest takeaways so far 
05:27 19th century: modernist rhetoric and “Art“ as an independent realm
08:02 Finding the purest of the fine arts
10:30 Changing the meaning of “culture“
12:12 Art as religion
19:57 Pre-modernists and Roman frog eyes
24:17 The Saint and Martyr Syndrom
27:29 “The descent of the artisan“
 34:41 Architecture: art or craft…?
41:49 The term “disinterestedness“
45:00 The final consolidation of “Art“
48:47 Photography: was it ever a threat?
55:40 Modernism 1890-1930
1:06:18 The 1930´s & representational styles
1:09:00 Modernism as “anti-totalitarian“
1:14:05 Repeating the art vs craft division
1:19:25 Post-Modernism as an alternative? 
1:22:51 A people without identity & a third system of the arts

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The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.

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