Steven Heller is the co-chair of the Designer as Author MFA Program and co-founder of the MFA in design criticism program at the School of Visual Arts in New York. He is the editor, author or co-author of over 100 books on design, political art and popular culture.

Heller was an art director at The New York Times. Currently, he writes the "Visuals" column for the Book Review, designer and illustrator obituaries and a design column for NY Times' T-Style "The Moment" blog. He writes the "Daily Heller" for Print's online forum and does interview "Broadcasts" for Core77.

In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, Steven Heller discusses his new book Pop: How Graphic Design Shapes Popular Culture, blogging from the bathroom, Christmas in New York, working with Patti Smith, Screw magazine, Paul Rand's tombstone, creating graduate programs and, of course, writing. (12.03.10)

On Design Observer: http://observermedia.designobserver.com/

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Design Matters with Debbie Millman: Steven Heller

Design Matters by Debbie Millman features interviews with designers, artists and cultural leaders, including Lawrence Weiner, Barbara Kruger, Malcolm Gladwell, Eric Kandel, Stefan Sagmeister, John Maeda, Jonathan Hoefler and Tobias Frere-Jones, Michael Arad, Milton Glaser, Massimo Vignelli, Paula Scher, Steven Heller, Jonah Lehrer, among others.

In 2011, Design Matters received the People’s Design Award from the prestigious Cooper-Hewitt National Design Awards.

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