Debbie talks to Sam Winston about words as "the shoreline between the conscious and the unconscious," his lifelong fascination with type, and his bibliophilic collaboration with Oliver Jeffers.

Design Matters with Debbie Millman: 2009-2017

Design Matters with Debbie Millman: Sam Winston

Design Matters by Debbie Millman features interviews with designers, artists and cultural leaders, including Lawrence Weiner, Barbara Kruger, Malcolm Gladwell, Eric Kandel, Stefan Sagmeister, John Maeda, Jonathan Hoefler and Tobias Frere-Jones, Michael Arad, Milton Glaser, Massimo Vignelli, Paula Scher, Steven Heller, Jonah Lehrer, among others.

In 2011, Design Matters received the People’s Design Award from the prestigious Cooper-Hewitt National Design Awards.

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