Part 2 of our exploration of how Gatorade influenced the science of hydration. In this episode Travis talks about how the Army developed bad doctrine around hydrating soldiers while preparing for war in the Middle East, how Gatorade helped finance athletic organizations, and why dangers related to overhydration were ignored in the 90s.  

Also at point Jake launches into a Carpi Sun ad for some reason.


REFERENCES
Georgia Teen Dies From Drinking Too Much Water, Gatorade
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/georgia-teen-dies-from-drinking-too-much-water-gatorade/

Rovell, Darren. First in Thirst: How Gatorade Turned the Science of Sweat into a Cultural Phenomenon (2005)

Noakes, Timothy. Waterlogged: The Serious Problem of Overhydration in Endurance Sports (2012)


Water as a Tactical Weapon: A Doctrine for Preventing Heat Casualties 
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA113477.pdf

ACSM Position Stand: Exercise and Fluid Replacement
https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/fulltext/1996/10000/acsm_position_stand__exercise_and_fluid.45.aspx

National Athletic Trainers’ Association Position Statement: Fluid Replacement for Athletes
https://www.nata.org/sites/default/files/FluidReplacementsForAthletes.pdf

Updated Fluid Recommendation: Position Statement From the International Marathon Medical Directors Association (IMMDA)
http://immda.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Spring-2006-Updated-Fluid-Recommendations.pdf

Gatorade demand high in war zones, squeezing supply
https://www.gainesville.com/story/news/2005/09/08/gatorade-demand-high-in-war-zones-squeezing-supply/31703317007/

Water Intoxication—Considerations for Patients, Athletes and Physicians
https://med.virginia.edu/ginutrition/wp-content/uploads/sites/199/2015/11/NoakesArticle-September-08.pdf

Drinking policies and exercise-associated hyponatraemia: is anyone still promoting overdrinking?
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Fernando-Beltrami/publication/5451623_Drinking_policies_and_exercise-associated_hyponatraemia_Is_anyone_still_promoting_overdrinking/links/57334c7908ae9f741b26101c/Drinking-policies-and-exercise-associated-hyponatraemia-Is-anyone-still-promoting-overdrinking.pdf

Case proven: exercise associated hyponatraemia is due to overdrinking. So why did it take 20 years before the original evidence was accepted?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2564296/#ref16

“Drink at least eight glasses of water a day.” Really? Is there scientific evidence for “8 × 8”?
https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/ajpregu.00365.2002

British Medical Journal: The Truth About Sports Drinks
https://www.bmj.com/bmj/section-pdf/187587?path=/bmj/345/7866/Feature.full.pdf

The sensitivity of the human thirst response to changes in plasma osmolality: a systematic review
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5763530/#:~:text=Physiologically%2C%20plasma%20osmolality%20(pOsm),Baylis%20%26%20Thompson%2C%201988

Trickle Down Episode 12: The Elixir of Life Part 2 (Sample)

This week we're speaking with Evelyn Vargas and Antonio Gutierrez from Organized Communities Against Deporations (OCAD), about all the recent things going on in Chicago: Operation Midway Blitz, the Sept 30 raid on the South Shore Apartments building, Trump sending in the National Guard and declaring war on Antifa, and how the Democrats fit into all this

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Episode 413: The Monsters Of Midway (w/ special guests Evelyn Vargas and Antonio Gutierrez)

Annie Kelly has spent most of 2025 investigating the online world of so-called “traditional wives” or “tradwives.” On this episode she sits down with Travis, Jake, and Julian to talk about her new six-episode miniseries Truly, Tradly, Deeply for the Cursed Media podcast network. Among other discoveries: it’s more difficult than you might think to even properly define “tradwife,” much of the community promotes a fantasy about the pre-internet age, and tradwife content is far less fringe than it used to be. 

The first two episodes of “Truly, Tradly, Deeply” will be released on the Cursed Media podcast network on the 29th of October.


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Truly, Tradly, Deeply — Inside the Tradosphere with Annie Kelly (E345)

Have you been having fun with the newest slate of AI tools? Have you been doing research with GPT-5? Coding your projects with Claude? Turning pictures of your friends into cartoon characters from the Fairly Odd Parents using the image editing tool Nano Banana? 

Are you impressed with what they can do? Well guess what? You’re only impressed with them because you’re basically a naive child. You’re like a little child with an etch a sketch who is amazed that they can make crude images by turning the knobs, oblivious to greater possibilities. At least, that’s the impression you get when listening to tech leaders, philosophers, and even governments. According to them, soon the most impressive of AI tools will look as cheap and primitive as Netflix’s recommendation algorithm in 2007. Soon the world will have to reckon with the power of Artificial General Intelligence, or “AGI.”

What is AGI? Definitions vary. When will it come? Perhaps months. Perhaps years. Perhaps decades. But definitely soon enough for you to worry about. What will it mean for humanity once it's here? Perhaps a techno utopia. Perhaps extinction. No one is sure. But what they are sure of is that AGI is definitely coming and it’s definitely going to be a big deal. A mystical event. A turning point in history, after which nothing will ever be the same.

However, some are more skeptical, like our guest today Will Douglas Heaven. Will has a PhD in Computer Science from Imperial College London and is the senior editor for AI at MIT Technology review. He recently published an article, based on his conversations with AI researchers, which provocatively calls AGI “the most consequential conspiracy theory of our time.”

Jake and Travis chat with Will about the conspiracy theory-like talk from the AI industry, whether AGI is just “vibes and snake oil,” and how to distinguish between tech breakthroughs and Silicon Valley hyperbole. 

Will Douglas Heaven
https://bsky.app/profile/willdouglasheaven.bsky.social

How AGI became the consequential conspiracy theory of our time
https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/10/30/1127057/agi-conspiracy-theory-artifcial-general-intelligence/


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The first three episodes of Annie Kelly’s new 6-part podcast miniseries “Truly Tradly Deeply” are available to Cursed Media subscribers, with new episodes released weekly.

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Cursed Media subscribers also get access to every episode of every QAA miniseries we produced, including Manclan by Julian Feeld and Annie Kelly, Trickle Down by Travis View, The Spectral Voyager by Jake Rockatansky and Brad Abrahams, and Perverts by Julian Feeld and Liv Agar. Plus, Cursed Media subscribers will get access to at least three new exclusive podcast miniseries every year.

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REFERENCES

Debates on the nature of artificial general intelligence
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.ado7069?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Why AI Is Harder Than We Think
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2104.12871

AI Capabilities May Be Overhyped on Bogus Benchmarks, Study Finds
https://gizmodo.com/ai-capabilities-may-be-overhyped-on-bogus-benchmarks-study-finds-2000682577

Examining the geographic concentration of VC investment in AI
https://ssti.org/blog/examining-geographic-concentration-vc-investment-ai

Margaret Mitchell: artificial general intelligence is ‘just vibes and snake oil’
https://www.ft.com/content/7089bff2-25fc-4a25-98bf-8828ab24f48e



AGI Is a Conspiracy Theory (E347)

This week we talk the recently released Epstein emails and interview journalist Thomas Birmingham about his piece in The Nation "The Eviction Kings" (linked below).

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/american-landmark-evictions-israel-electra/

Episode 418: The Eviction Kings (w/ Special Guest: Thomas Birmingham)

Aaron and Tom are joined by writer, producer, and podcaster Manny Fidel to discuss the proliferation of online sports betting and its implications on society in the context of a US economy that's increasingly immaterial in conjunction with the "male loneliness epidemic."

Manny's GQ piece can be found here:
https://www.gq.com/story/online-gambling-is-ruining-sports-bars

Preorder Manny's forthcoming book "Colored People Time (A Case for Casual Rebellion)" here:
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/740001/colored-people-time-by-manny-fidel/

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Episode 419: Two for the Money (w/ Special Guest: Manny Fidel)

Travis, Jake, and Liv sift through the gems in the latest dump of Epstein documents released by the House Oversight Committee. The records show interactions with individuals across politics, academia, finance and media, including Noam Chomsky, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, Peter Thiel, Steve Bannon, and author Michael Wolff. We cover Epstein’s comments about Trump, Michael Wolff’s creepy work with Epstein, Bannon’s request to visit “the island” the day that Epstein was arrested in New Jersey, and the notorious email in which Epstein’s brother references a “photo of Trump blowing Bubba.” Plus: how the QAnon and conspiracist communities are spinning the new revelations. 


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Cursed Media subscribers also get access to every episode of every QAA miniseries we produced, including Manclan by Julian Feeld and Annie Kelly, Trickle Down by Travis View, The Spectral Voyager by Jake Rockatansky and Brad Abrahams, and Perverts by Julian Feeld and Liv Agar. Plus, Cursed Media subscribers will get access to at least three new exclusive podcast miniseries every year.

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Epstein’s Inbox Is Full (E349)

The 1956 book When Prophecy Fails describes one of the most famous case studies in social psychology. The researchers Leon Festinger, Henry Riecken, and Stanley Schachter covertly joined a small, apocalyptic UFO group, observing how members prepared, including quitting jobs, giving away possessions, and severing ties with skeptics. According to the book, when the group’s predicted disaster did not occur, instead of simply abandoning their beliefs, many core members strengthened their commitment and actively sought new converts. 

But it didn’t actually happen like that. In truth, Festinger and his fellow researchers glossed over evidence that contradicted their thesis and actively influenced the UFO group to get the result they wanted.

This is the discovery of our guest Thomas Kelly. By combing through newly unsealed materials from Festinger’s archives, UFO and occult magazines of the 1950s, later writings by group leader Dorothy Martin, he discovered crucial information that was omitted by the original book.  Kelly detailed his startling findings in a paper published in the Journal of the History of the Behavioral Sciences titled Debunking “When Prophecy Fails.”

Travis interviews Kelly to discuss the real story behind When Prophecy Fails, the possible consequences of invalidating Festinger’s study, and how his work fits in the wider “replication crisis” in experimental psychology. 

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The first five episodes of Annie Kelly’s new 6-part podcast miniseries “Truly Tradly Deeply” are available to Cursed Media subscribers.

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Cursed Media subscribers also get access to every episode of every QAA miniseries we produced, including Manclan by Julian Feeld and Annie Kelly, Trickle Down by Travis View, The Spectral Voyager by Jake Rockatansky and Brad Abrahams, and Perverts by Julian Feeld and Liv Agar. Plus, Cursed Media subscribers will get access to at least three new exclusive podcast miniseries every year.

www.cursedmedia.net/

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QAA was known as the QAnon Anonymous podcast.

SOURCES

Debunking “When Prophecy Fails”

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/jhbs.70043

Debunking “When Prophecy Fails” (Free Preprint Version)

https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/9j7qc_v2

Failed Prophecies Are Fatal

https://journal.equinoxpub.com/IJSNR/article/view/33085/32543

Cults, Conscripts, and College Boys: Whither Cognitive Dissonance? (Preprint)

https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/xdj2u_v1

When “When Prophecy Fails” Fails (E350)

Journalist Eamon Whalen drops by to discuss his latest for Mother Jones "How a Mercenary Became a Minneapolis Mall Cop" (link Below)

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/11/crg-mercenary-mall-cop-nathan-seabrook-minneapolis-george-floyd-protest-paramilitary/

Episode 420: Blart of Darkness (w/ Special Guest: Eamon Whalen)

Aaron & Tom review the state of the holiday retail climate, the history of America's vapor economics, the CNN x Kalshi collab, and financing Air Jordans at 22% interest.

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Episode 421: Cart Blanche

There's two types of people in this world: those who will let their backyards be disintegrated into rubble and those who won't.

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Episode 422: Bargain Bin Futures

Conspiracy theories, melted online communities and cursed media — we pry open the cracks in consensus reality and journey into the hidden worlds below. The QAA Podcast is a mix of reporting, comedy, and history hosted by Jake Rockatansky, Travis View, and Julian Feeld along with co-hosts Annie Kelly, Liv Agar and Brad Abrahams. Formerly known as the QAnon Anonymous podcast.