“Back to the Garden” tells the story of an organic farming couple, Jose and Rich, who are committed to sustaining the environment . . . and who don't believe in climate change. This episode explores how that dissonance might be possible, the power of language, and whether or not the term "climate change" will help save the planet.

Produced by Anna McNulty, Shameeka Wilson, and Laura Joyce Davis.

Reclaiming, Part 8: Back to the Garden

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