In this episode, we talk with Hilary and Alexandra about the challenges racial justice advocates face in envisioning long-term futures, from their article "Lots of Extra Time and Privilege to Just Dream of Utopia: Barriers to LongTerm Visioning in Racial Justice Work". We discuss how urgent short-term needs, resource constraints, and the constant battle against white supremacy often overshadow the capacity to dream about racially just futures. We explore possibilities for futurists and advocates to collaborate in elevating visions of racial justice.

Interviewees: 

Hillary Carey
Alexandra To

Interviewers: 
José Ramos 
Abril Chimal
Loes Damhof

Further reading on the subject includes: 

Social Design Dreaming: Designing Future Visions of Racial Justice (Hillary’s doctoral dissertation)

Flourishing in the Everyday: Moving Beyond Damage-Centered Design in HCI for BIPOC Communities (Alexandra’s paper)

Collective Healing to Support Design Futures: Building Community and Exploring Methods

Inspiring reads on antiracism and future visions:
Robin D. G. Kelley, 2002. Freedom Dreams: The Black Radical Imagination. Boston: Beacon Press.

Alex Zamalin, 2019. Black Utopia: The History of an Idea from Black Nationalism to Afrofuturism. New
York: Columbia University Press. https://doi.org/10.7312/zama18740.

Jose Pedro Zúquete, 2011. “Another World Is Possible? Utopia Revisited.” New Global Studies 5 (2):
1130–1130. https://doi.org/10.2202/1940-0004.1130.



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