Hey friends, welcome back to Find the Joy with Jenn. If this is your first time here, I’m so glad you found this space. I created this podcast to walk alongside faithful women—and men—who are navigating the heartbreak of divorce with grace, courage, and yes… even joy.
Today’s episode is one I’ve been wanting to talk about for a while. It’s about a phrase that sneaks into so many of our thoughts, especially after things fall apart in divorce. “I should have seen it coming.”
Have you said that before? Whispered it to yourself in bed at night… or cried it to a friend in disbelief… or maybe even screamed it in your car when the grief was just too heavy?
It’s such a tempting thought, because it gives us something to hold onto when everything feels out of control. But here’s the thing: that thought feels like truth… and yet it’s laced with shame.
So today, we’re going to break it down. Together, we’ll look at where this belief comes from, what it costs us, and how faith offers us a much better lens.

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174. When You Didn’t See the Divorce Coming

Hey Joy Seekers, it’s Jenn—and today we’re diving into a topic that comes up so often with the amazing men and women I coach: closure after divorce.
If you’ve found yourself saying, “I just need closure,” or “If I could just understand why it all happened the way it did, maybe then I could move on,” this episode is especially for you.
Let’s be honest—when divorce turns your world upside down, it’s normal to crave some kind of neat, tied-up ending. Something to help it all make sense. But here’s what I want you to know: closure isn’t something your ex gives you. It’s something you choose to create—with the Lord’s help.
So today, we’re going to talk about what closure really means, how to stop waiting for it, and how to move forward with faith, grace, and resilience—even when your questions feel unanswered.
I want to show you that closure isn’t something we get from someone else. It’s something we create—with God’s help.
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175. The Truth About Closure After Divorce (What No One Tells You)

Be Still (My Bleeding Heart)

This song is a duet version about my journey to find love more than once in my life. I believe God is a God of second chances.  He can help us heal and move past trauma and pain in the past for a future of freedom and new love.

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A family broken apart when Wife left. Family bonds and love have improved. Now love is stronger than it was. 

__LYRICS__

Saw you today in that same old coat,
Looking worn-down, tired, and broke.
A little heavier, your smile gone—
The kids were with me, standing near,
You walked right by, eyes nowhere clear.
Lost in a world you made your own,
Didn’t even care what you left alone.


So...
I held on when you let go.
I stood my ground, you lost control.
You got your freedom, I got the truth—
You ran from love, I gave it proof.
So look who's left... 
And who ran away.
You spun your tales 'til you believed
That leaving was the way to breathe.
You lit the match, tried to scorch it all—
Thought I’d go down, thought I would fall.
Look who left when the fire got hot,
And who stayed behind and put it out.

You thought I’d fold, you thought I’d drown—
But when the storm came down, I held my ground.

So...
I held on when you let go.
I stood my ground, you lost control.
You got your freedom, I got the truth—
You ran from love, I gave it proof.
So look who's left... 
And who ran away. 

Had to field the questions, nod and smile—
“Think you can do this, even for a while?”
They all assumed I’d fall apart,
But I stitched new joy into this heart.
Yeah, dinners are late, and bedtimes too,
But there’s more laughter than we ever knew.

It’s not picture-perfect, but it’s real and loud,
A little chaos, but I’m damn proud.
No art on walls or baby toys—
Just honest talk and teenage noise.
They lean on me, and I don’t fold—
That’s love, steady and bold.

bitch, I held on when you let go.
I stood my ground, you lost control.
You got your freedom, I got the truth—
You ran from love, I gave it proof.
So look who's left... 
And who ran away.
(Look who's left) (Look who's left...)

I held on...

Look Who's Left

Hey friends, and welcome back to Find the Joy with Jenn. I'm so grateful you're here. Today’s episode is especially tender and powerful—one that will speak to anyone who’s found themselves hurting in the shadows of someone else’s struggle with addiction.

I’m honored to be joined by Roxanna Johnson, a remarkable woman of faith, resilience, and wisdom. Roxanna has over 50 years of experience loving people who compulsively use substances or behaviors, including sexual addiction, to numb their pain. Her journey has taken her through two divorces and one recovered marriage that ended in loss due to death. Through it all, Roxanna has leaned into her faith, her professional background as a federal grant administrator, and the profound spiritual lessons she’s learned by attending hundreds of 12-step meetings and applying powerful therapeutic principles. 

She recently poured all of that hard-earned insight into her book:
 Forgotten in the Battle with Sexual Addiction: The Journey of a Spouse.  It’s an honest and deeply personal look at what it means to live through betrayal and heartbreak—and still find hope, healing, and joy, even if your spouse doesn’t choose recovery. Whether you’re walking this path yourself or love someone who is, Roxanna’s story will bless and strengthen you.

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176. Faith and Healing Through the Journey of a Spouse with Sexual Addiction with Roxanna Johnson

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Episode Summary: In this heartfelt episode of Healing Starts with the Heart, Sharon Brubaker opens the door to a topic many avoid—your grief story. Not the polite, watered-down version, but the real, raw, unfiltered story of what happened, what you felt, and what you still carry. Sharon explains why telling this story—first to yourself and then to others—is a necessary part of healing. She shares how the truth of our pain holds the key to transformation, connection, and true emotional release. Whether you’ve lost a person, a dream, a relationship, or a piece of yourself—this episode invites you to step into your truth, name your grief, and be seen in your pain without shame or apology.  Key Points Discussed:   Why your real grief story matters more than the “acceptable” version   The physical, emotional, and spiritual toll of holding your story in   How your brain and body record every detail of trauma and grief   The difference between what we tell others and what we need to tell ourselves   How society pressures us to hide our pain—and why that compounds it   The power of grief storytelling in community and connection   Sharon’s personal grief stories—and how they continue to evolve   The freedom and healing that come from speaking your story out loud    Journal Questions for Reflection:   Who were you before your loss, and who are you now?   What part of your story have you never said out loud?   What do you still carry in silence?   What changed in your life that no one else sees?   What would it feel like to tell the truth about your grief story?   What is something you lost beyond the person—was it safety, identity, future plans?   What do you want the world to know about the depth of your pain?    Conclusion: Your grief story matters. All of it. Not just the death or the loss, but what it did to your soul, your routine, your identity. And while you may have been taught to hide your pain, Sharon reminds us that real healing starts when we stop editing our story to protect others. Speak the truth. Say what happened. Say what still hurts. Because when you tell your story, you make room for healing—not only for yourself but for others walking this same painful road.  Contact Us: Have a question, story, or want to connect with Sharon? 📧 Email:  📱 Follow Sharon on TikTok:  🌐 Learn more or join a healing program:  ✨ Join the community:

Your Grief Story

Hey Joy Seekers, it’s Jenn. Today’s episode comes straight from a place of deep personal experience—something that rocked my world recently and gave me an entirely new perspective on the wounds we carry, both seen and unseen. I want to tell you about a recent experience that caught me completely off guard—something that literally left a scar and totally disrupted my life for a while. But more than that, it taught me a powerful lesson about healing… and how similar physical wounds are to the emotional ones we carry. This experience taught me something powerful about grief, trauma, and the slow, intentional work of healing after divorce.
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177.  Healing After the Cut- What Cancer Taught Me About Divorce

In the quiet spaces between heartbeats, between the words left unsaid in a dying relationship, perple has constructed "Civil Suites," an album that maps the emotional geography of divorce. Following "Salty Suites," which documented the claustrophobic tensions of a relationship confined during COVID, this album traces the progression from recognition to release—a sonic document of uncoupling.

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Ever Again (1000 Reasons Why)

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“The Unbound Soul”
This song began with chains—and ended under open skies. A piano in the wild. A voice with some dirt on it. The Unbound Soul is a quiet refusal to be owned, labeled, or priced. It’s grunge, but not the Seattle kind—it’s soul-grunge. Raw, heartfelt, and human.

This one’s for anyone who’s ever felt boxed in by contracts, expectations, or names that never quite fit. The sound is stripped down, a little worn, and meant to breathe. Think Wallflowers, not walls. Think James Taylor with mud on his boots.

Written for anyone who’s walked away from the chains they didn’t know they were wearing.

Lyrics not shared—on purpose. I want you to hear it the way you need to.

The Unbound Soul

Hi there, I'm Jenn,

I am an experienced, certified professional Ladder-day Saint life and divorce coach who mentors men and women in challenging times to find joy through faith-filled coaching. I can help you find the joy in your journey!

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I create music for myself first. People who know me say I’m raw, unfiltered, and often “too honest.” That honesty shapes everything I write—songs that trace my journey through healing, strength, and emotional depth.

With tracks like One Thing, I’m not trying to offer answers. I’m just capturing what I feel in the moment. If something in my music touches you, that’s a bonus—but for me, this is about finding my way forward.

Each song is a place to reflect, to breathe, to feel. I don’t claim clarity. I just know the value of showing up honestly—and sometimes, putting your truth into the world is the best you can do.

I’m building this slowly and honestly. Thanks to anyone walking beside me as I figure out what it means to grow through music.

If you’ve made it this far—thank you.
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