Indy Johar, Mission Steward of Dark Matter Labs, joins the podcast to help us rethink how we organize ourselves and our systems, addressing inadequacies of traditional business models that are no longer sufficient for managing complexities.

Bringing light to how “risk management should be localized, with decision-making power and accountability being as close to the problem as possible,” Indy argues for an organization that encourages participants to be citizens rather than employees and fosters continuous and accountable learning among individuals.

Tune into this episode and learn from Indy, a veteran in building mission-driven organizations, who has always stayed ahead of the curve.

Indy - who joins the podcast for the 3rd time - besides stewarding the mission at Dark has also recently joined RMIT University, teaching no less than “Planetary Civics”, a testament to his influence in the space of social innovation.

As always, Indy comes with a profound understanding of designing complex organizations for the 21st century, from his hands-on experience in creating radical innovations in governance, architecture, and social systems, particularly in sustainability and collaborative economy. 

He starts the podcast with philosophical considerations about the nature of complex organizations and then highlights the need for a radical shift toward a learning-centered organization.

In the conversation, we question the traditional metrics of productivity and value, and further advocate for new metrics that account for collective intelligence and systemic contributions rather than individual output. 

There was no better way to celebrate our 100th episode because this one is a landmark. Grab a notepad and pick a pen, because there’s much to pin down.


Key Highlights
👉 Organizational structures in a complex world, and a shift from command-and-control to systemic learning and adaptability.
👉 Decentralized risk management and the need to localize decision-making to enhance responsiveness and effectiveness.
👉 Dark Matter Labs' mission-driven approach, emphasizing partnerships over traditional consultancy to enable sustainable change.
👉 Need for a paradigm shift in how value is defined and measured within organizations, moving towards incorporating multi-dimensional success indicators.
👉Redefining organizational roles to encourage craft and citizenship, where individuals contribute to the organization's decision-making processes. 
👉 Rethinking legal structures governing organizations, moving towards frameworks that support distributed risk and empower collective action.


Topics /chapters

(00:00) Learning Centered Organizations for the 21st Century with Indy Johar - Intro
(01:40) Introducing Indy Johar
(10:31) Value of Learning as a Strategic Advantage
(14:41) Accelerating Learning and Modifying Organizational Agendas
(19:23) Structure in a post-managerial economy
(24:46) The Design of Dark Matter Labs
(34:50) Citizenship inside Organizations
(42:25) Citizen or Employee?
(47:56) Money making machine to avenues of value 
(55:47) Breadcrumbs and Suggestions


Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://www.boundaryless.io/podcast/indy-johar-2/


Episode recorded on March 19, 2024

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The Boundaryless Conversation Podcast: Season 5

#100 - Learning Centered Organizations for the 21st Century with Indy Johar

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