Dr Laurence Heller is the founder of the NeuroAffective Relational Model™ - often referred to as NARM. This is a psychobiological approach known to be highly effective for working with developmental trauma.

He is the author of “Healing Developmental Trauma”, which is currently published in more than 10 languages. For the past 20 years, Dr Heller has been conducting seminars in the NARM approach throughout the United States, Europe and soon to be worldwide. 

In this conversation, we explore: 

— Why NARM does not see the traumatic event as the primary issue and instead views the adaptations that we make to traumatising experiences as the primary issue

— The key differences between treating shock trauma and developmental trauma

— Why effective therapy requires much more than just extinguishing symptoms

— The NARM core survival styles

And more. 

You can learn more about Dr Heller’s innovative work by going to: https://drlaurenceheller.com/

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Dr. Laurence Heller is the founder of the NeuroAffective Relational Model© (NARM), a specialized psychobiological approach to working with developmental trauma. He holds a Ph.D in psychology and was in private practice for over 30 years. 

The NARM Model is presented in the best selling book Healing Developmental Trauma: How Early Trauma Affects Self-Regulation, Self-Image and the Capacity for Relationship, which is currently published in more than 15 languages. 

His new book with Brad Kammer is The Practical Guide for Healing Developmental Trauma: Using the NeuroAffective Relational Model to Address Adverse Childhood Experiences and Resolve Complex Trauma presents the clinical model. He is also the co-author of  Crash Course, a book on shock trauma: He speaks several languages fluently and for the past 30 years has been conducting seminars in the NARM approach throughout the United States and Europe. He and his teachers present NARM worldwide.

He is currently working on a project led by Christina Bethell, Ph.D , a professor at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, and others to bring a trauma-informed understanding to Pediatricians and General Practitioners throughout the U.S. Their first article for this project was published in 2021: Social and Relational Health Risks and Common Mental Health  Problems Among US Children Published by Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America co-authored with Christina D. Bethell, PhD, MBA, MPH, (lead) Andrew S. Garner, MD, PhD, Narangerel Gombojav, MD, PhD, Courtney Blackwell, PhD, Tanar Mendelson, PhD

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3 Books Dr Laurence Heller Recommends Every Therapist Should Read: 

— A General Theory of Love - Sir Thomas Lewis, Fari Amini and Richard Lannon - https://amzn.to/44DT01L

— The Power of Attachment - Diane Poole Heller - https://amzn.to/3WG7NH5

— Healing Development Trauma - Laurence Heller and Aline Lapierre - https://amzn.to/3UJiS7E

Attachment and the Core Dilemma with NARM — Dr. Laurence Heller

Professor Steven C Hayes is the co-developer of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, Relational Frame Theory, and most recently Process Based Therapy.

Dr Hayes is the author of several bestselling books, including Get out of Your Mind and Into Your Life, Process-Based CBT, and A Liberated Mind. 

Along with his colleagues, Steve has spent decades developing and rigorously testing the psychological flexibility model — which is now one of the most empirically validated predictors of flourishing in life. 

In this conversation, we explore: 

— Why we need to focus on social context if our aim is to create secure attachment

— The perspective taking self and how developing this can reduce suffering and foster internal security

— Steve’s thoughts on the vital importance of viewing people as individuals, rather than averages — particularly when we are discussing mental health. 

And more. 

You can learn more about Steve’s work by going to stevenchayes.com and check out the new psych flex app by visiting: https://psychflex.com.

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Steven C. Hayes, PhD, is a professor of psychology at the University of Nevada, Reno. The author of forty-three books and more than six hundred scientific articles, he has served as president of the Association for Behavioral and Cognitive Therapy and the Association for Contextual Behavioral Science and is one of the most cited psychologists in the world. 

Dr. Hayes initiated the development of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and of Relational Frame Theory (RFT), the approach to cognition on which ACT is based. Most recently, he has been focused on developing Process Based Therapy along with Prof Stefan Hofmann.

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Interview Links:

— A Liberated Mind: The Essential Guide to ACT - Steven Hayes - https://amzn.to/3UG9wcU

— ACT Immersion: https://stevenchayes.com/actimmersion

— ACT in Practice: https://stevenchayes.com/actinpractice

— Professor Hayes’ website: https://stevenchayes.com

Healing Attachment Wounds with Psychological Flexibility — Dr. Steven Hayes

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The Push-Pull Dance

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