In this podcast Michael Stiefel spoke with Randy Shoup about how to build resilient systems. We discuss why it is a serious mistake to fail to acknowledge that software’s interaction with itself and the real world produces fragility. Therefore, software systems must be built to be resilient to that fragility.
We also discuss where to use workflows, orchestration or choreography, the role of architecture in building good teams, and the wisdom of letting each team use their own set of tools.

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Your Software Will Fail, It is How You Recover That Matters: A Conversation with Randy Shoup

In this podcast Michael Stiefel spoke with Lizzie Matusov about the dependency of effective, productive, and satisfied teams on good software architecture. Understanding this relationship requires understanding exactly what software productivity really is, how modern software engineering research has become more rigorous and practical, and how to apply that research to software development.

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Understanding What Really Matters for Developer Productivity: A Conversation with Lizzie Matusov

Software engineers, architects and team leads have found inspiration to drive change and innovation in their team by listening to the weekly InfoQ Podcast. They have received essential information that helped them validate their software development map. We have achieved that by interviewing some of the top CTOs, engineers and technology directors from companies like Uber, Netflix and more. Over 1,200,000 downloads in the last 3 years.

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